2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0

[mademan]

Who knows with Dallas at his point, but no reasonable GM trades Lively for Dick. Lively is a much better prospect and they can get a wing player on the level of Dick a lot cheaper

[YogurtProducer]

If Toronto isn't getting Reaves or Lively then they cut out LA and Dallas and just do the New Orleans deal. I mam wry would they give up Poeltl and Mitchell for Rui? Nobody is giving you anything good for Rui if they were LA would have moved him already

Other one I played around with

TOR IN - Edey + Smart + Ingram
TOR OUT - Poeltl + Agbaji + Brown + Boucher + Mitchell

MEM IN - Poeltl + Agbaji + Mitchell
MEM OUT - Edey + Smart

NOP IN - Brown + Boucher (and picks to balance)
NOP OUT - Ingram

Swap Gradey Dick and Lively

IQ/Smart/Shead
Barrett/Walter
Ingram/Battle
Barnes/Olynyk/Mogbo
Edey/Lively

12 guys + Temple. Room to get 2 more guys for the rest of the year. Add our two picks this year, and sign a FA to get to 15 for next year.

And we never take a 3 pointer again

yeah long time RJ would go.

But Ingram / Quickley are + shooters. Barrett is average. Edey is developing and IMO could be a Brook Lopez type dude

[YogurtProducer]

Who knows with Dallas at his point, but no reasonable GM trades Lively for Dick. Lively is a much better prospect and they can get a wing player on the level of Dick a lot cheaper

I don’t think Livelt is really that much better. He looked great in a smaller role, but I bet Dick would too

[mademan]

Who knows with Dallas at his point, but no reasonable GM trades Lively for Dick. Lively is a much better prospect and they can get a wing player on the level of Dick a lot cheaper

I don’t think Livelt is really that much better. He looked great in a smaller role, but I bet Dick would too

Lively is a future defensive anchor. He doesnt need to do much else besides rebound, finish plays and block shots. That's plenty valuable on it's own and his path to that is fairly clear with his physical gifts and great hands. Dick, otoh, is a 1-way scoring guard who cant really create his own offense and has yet to show he's an elite shooter.

It's not really close imo. Dick would have to come a long way to be seen on the same level as a prospect. It's just a lot easier right now to see Lively contributing to a title team than it is Dick. Non-star level wing players who cant defend arent really in great demand. Athletic C's who can protect the rim always have value

[YogurtProducer]

Who knows with Dallas at his point, but no reasonable GM trades Lively for Dick. Lively is a much better prospect and they can get a wing player on the level of Dick a lot cheaper

I don’t think Livelt is really that much better. He looked great in a smaller role, but I bet Dick would too

Lively is a future defensive anchor. He doesnt need to do much else besides rebound, finish plays and block shots. That's plenty valuable on it's own and his path to that is fairly clear with his physical gifts and great hands. Dick, otoh, is a 1-way scoring guard who cant really create his own offense and has yet to show he's an elite shooter.

It's not really close imo. Dick would have to come a long way to be seen on the same level as a prospect. It's just a lot easier right now to see Lively contributing to a title team than it is Dick. Non-star level wing players who cant defend arent really in great demand. Athletic C's who can protect the rim always have value

Lively also could end up topping out as a role playing 5 without any shooting ability who gets played off the floor in certain matchups or can't ever scale up past his 20-24mpg he plays now.

Dick could end up as a guy who shoots 40% from 3 who is a constant threat off-the-ball and who has a nice in between pull up game.

IMO, Dick has the higher ceiler and the lower floor. But Lively also played with Kyrie/Luka and Dick played on a rebuilding team. Imagine if Dick could've been beside Luka and Kyrie? Open looks for days. For reference, he shoots 44% on wide open 3's on a team that is not really creating a ton for him.

Either way, Lively is now the 3rd best center on his team (or at best/worst, a wash with Gafford). From a team building perspective, DAL should look to get better fitting pieces with AD and Kyire.

[mademan]

I don’t think Livelt is really that much better. He looked great in a smaller role, but I bet Dick would too

Lively is a future defensive anchor. He doesnt need to do much else besides rebound, finish plays and block shots. That's plenty valuable on it's own and his path to that is fairly clear with his physical gifts and great hands. Dick, otoh, is a 1-way scoring guard who cant really create his own offense and has yet to show he's an elite shooter.

It's not really close imo. Dick would have to come a long way to be seen on the same level as a prospect. It's just a lot easier right now to see Lively contributing to a title team than it is Dick. Non-star level wing players who cant defend arent really in great demand. Athletic C's who can protect the rim always have value

Lively also could end up topping out as a role playing 5 without any shooting ability who gets played off the floor in certain matchups or can't ever scale up past his 20-24mpg he plays now.

Dick could end up as a guy who shoots 40% from 3 who is a constant threat off-the-ball and who has a nice in between pull up game.

IMO, Dick has the higher ceiler and the lower floor. But Lively also played with Kyrie/Luka and Dick played on a rebuilding team. Imagine if Dick could've been beside Luka and Kyrie? Open looks for days. For reference, he shoots 44% on wide open 3's on a team that is not really creating a ton for him.

Either way, Lively is now the 3rd best center on his team (or at best/worst, a wash with Gafford). From a team building perspective, DAL should look to get better fitting pieces with AD and Kyire.

ofc Lively can end up as a role player. But there's a clear difference between him and Dick. Dick doesnt get real minutes for them ina playoff run while Lively was their best FC player for multiple games and even full series'.

1 way wings who arent special offensively just dont have a lot of value. Dick is a target on the court, and he either has to become a lot better on that end or become a real weapon offensively. Lively is better now and has the physical tools and playstyle coveted in this league. Dick has a lot more to prove and i have no idea how he has a higher ceiling. Lively could be a DPOY candidate

And Gafford is probably on the move for them for a guard. And Dick isnt a better fitting piece for them, they need a guard who can create as they only have Kyrie there now. They already have guards/wings who can shoot (Klay/Grimes). I dont see Dick playing ahead of either of them right now

[YogurtProducer]

Lively is a future defensive anchor. He doesnt need to do much else besides rebound, finish plays and block shots. That's plenty valuable on it's own and his path to that is fairly clear with his physical gifts and great hands. Dick, otoh, is a 1-way scoring guard who cant really create his own offense and has yet to show he's an elite shooter.

It's not really close imo. Dick would have to come a long way to be seen on the same level as a prospect. It's just a lot easier right now to see Lively contributing to a title team than it is Dick. Non-star level wing players who cant defend arent really in great demand. Athletic C's who can protect the rim always have value

Lively also could end up topping out as a role playing 5 without any shooting ability who gets played off the floor in certain matchups or can't ever scale up past his 20-24mpg he plays now.

Dick could end up as a guy who shoots 40% from 3 who is a constant threat off-the-ball and who has a nice in between pull up game.

IMO, Dick has the higher ceiler and the lower floor. But Lively also played with Kyrie/Luka and Dick played on a rebuilding team. Imagine if Dick could've been beside Luka and Kyrie? Open looks for days. For reference, he shoots 44% on wide open 3's on a team that is not really creating a ton for him.

Either way, Lively is now the 3rd best center on his team (or at best/worst, a wash with Gafford). From a team building perspective, DAL should look to get better fitting pieces with AD and Kyire.

ofc Lively can end up as a role player. But there's a clear difference between him and Dick. Dick doesnt get real minutes for them ina playoff run while Lively was their best FC player for multiple games and even full series'.

1 way wings who arent special offensively just dont have a lot of value. Dick is a target on the court, and he either has to become a lot better on that end or become a real weapon offensively. Lively is better now and has the physical tools and playstyle coveted in this league. Dick has a lot more to prove and i have no idea how he has a higher ceiling. Lively could be a DPOY candidate

I mean lets chill on Lively. He averaged 7/7 in 22mpg in the playoffs. Pretty much any somewhat athletic C in the league can put up those numbers, especially with Luka with you. And Dick DEFINITELY plays for Dallas, excuse me?

Dick is for sure not a good defender, but Lively is also an absolute nothing offensively.

But Dick has a higher ceiling because this is an offensive league and he has the tools to have an elite offensive tool; shooting. Elite offensive tools + average D is just a more valuable player than an elite defender with no offensive game.

I think we just disagree on Livelys defensive future. If he was some absolute STUD on that end, he would be playing more than 24mpg, and wouldn't be splitting time with Daniel Gafford (who lets point out looks like a completely different guy in DAL than he did in WAS, and makes you wonder what Lively looks like in a different situation).

Plus, Lively is out hurt right now. DAL is obviously in win now - can they afford to see what happens with Lively who could end up not playing again this year?

[mademan]

Lively also could end up topping out as a role playing 5 without any shooting ability who gets played off the floor in certain matchups or can't ever scale up past his 20-24mpg he plays now.

Dick could end up as a guy who shoots 40% from 3 who is a constant threat off-the-ball and who has a nice in between pull up game.

IMO, Dick has the higher ceiler and the lower floor. But Lively also played with Kyrie/Luka and Dick played on a rebuilding team. Imagine if Dick could've been beside Luka and Kyrie? Open looks for days. For reference, he shoots 44% on wide open 3's on a team that is not really creating a ton for him.

Either way, Lively is now the 3rd best center on his team (or at best/worst, a wash with Gafford). From a team building perspective, DAL should look to get better fitting pieces with AD and Kyire.

ofc Lively can end up as a role player. But there's a clear difference between him and Dick. Dick doesnt get real minutes for them ina playoff run while Lively was their best FC player for multiple games and even full series'.

1 way wings who arent special offensively just dont have a lot of value. Dick is a target on the court, and he either has to become a lot better on that end or become a real weapon offensively. Lively is better now and has the physical tools and playstyle coveted in this league. Dick has a lot more to prove and i have no idea how he has a higher ceiling. Lively could be a DPOY candidate

I mean lets chill on Lively. He averaged 7/7 in 22mpg in the playoffs. Pretty much any somewhat athletic C in the league can put up those numbers, especially with Luka with you. And Dick DEFINITELY plays for Dallas, excuse me?

Dick is for sure not a good defender, but Lively is also an absolute nothing offensively.

But Dick has a higher ceiling because this is an offensive league and he has the tools to have an elite offensive tool; shooting. Elite offensive tools + average D is just a more valuable player than an elite defender with no offensive game.

I think we just disagree on Livelys defensive future. If he was some absolute STUD on that end, he would be playing more than 24mpg, and wouldn't be splitting time with Daniel Gafford (who lets point out looks like a completely different guy in DAL than he did in WAS, and makes you wonder what Lively looks like in a different situation).

Plus, Lively is out hurt right now. DAL is obviously in win now - can they afford to see what happens with Lively who could end up not playing again this year?

I dont think Lively is great, honestly. But it's clear his physical tools give him a higher ceiling. He genuinely can be a defensive first team All-NBA kinda guy, and the thing is, he doesnt need to do anything on offense besides what he's doing (and getting better at it).

Dick, otoh, has to at least be solid defensively for him to stay on the court in the playoffs. He has a tougher burden to overcome, and it's not clear to me he can. He has real physical limitations. If he was a Korver like shooter, then the benefits outweigh the drawbacks, but he has yet to show he's a great shooter in this league, let alone an outlier like Korver.

Its not that im super high on Lively. Im just much more bearish on Dick. The 7 footer with elite physical tools who's already shown he can play real minutes on a title contender is far more valuable than the mediocre wing athlete who cant defend and who's still only a great shooter in theory.

[YogurtProducer]

ofc Lively can end up as a role player. But there's a clear difference between him and Dick. Dick doesnt get real minutes for them ina playoff run while Lively was their best FC player for multiple games and even full series'.

1 way wings who arent special offensively just dont have a lot of value. Dick is a target on the court, and he either has to become a lot better on that end or become a real weapon offensively. Lively is better now and has the physical tools and playstyle coveted in this league. Dick has a lot more to prove and i have no idea how he has a higher ceiling. Lively could be a DPOY candidate

I mean lets chill on Lively. He averaged 7/7 in 22mpg in the playoffs. Pretty much any somewhat athletic C in the league can put up those numbers, especially with Luka with you. And Dick DEFINITELY plays for Dallas, excuse me?

Dick is for sure not a good defender, but Lively is also an absolute nothing offensively.

But Dick has a higher ceiling because this is an offensive league and he has the tools to have an elite offensive tool; shooting. Elite offensive tools + average D is just a more valuable player than an elite defender with no offensive game.

I think we just disagree on Livelys defensive future. If he was some absolute STUD on that end, he would be playing more than 24mpg, and wouldn't be splitting time with Daniel Gafford (who lets point out looks like a completely different guy in DAL than he did in WAS, and makes you wonder what Lively looks like in a different situation).

Plus, Lively is out hurt right now. DAL is obviously in win now - can they afford to see what happens with Lively who could end up not playing again this year?

I dont think Lively is great, honestly. But it's clear his physical tools give him a higher ceiling. He genuinely can be a defensive first team All-NBA kinda guy, and the thing is, he doesnt need to do anything on offense besides what he's doing (and getting better at it).

Dick, otoh, has to at least be solid defensively for him to stay on the court in the playoffs. He has a tougher burden to overcome, and it's not clear to me he can. He has real physical limitations. If he was a Korver like shooter, then the benefits outweigh the drawbacks, but he has yet to show he's a great shooter in this league, let alone an outlier like Korver.

Its not that im super high on Lively. Im just much more bearish on Dick. The 7 footer with elite physical tools who's already shown he can play real minutes on a title contender is far more valuable than the mediocre wing athlete who cant defend and who's still only a great shooter in theory.

Dick has been a great shooter. He has just been tasked with more offensive responsibility than he should this season. But his C+S open/wide open #'s are quite good.

[Mr Swagtastic]

These rumors have us linked to everyone seen this the player in brackets will be the team he's traded to

Toronto trades

Chris Boucher (Portland)
Jakob Poeltl (Lakers)
Garrett Temple (cut)
Kelly Olynyk (Portland)
2026 Indy first (Portland)

Lakers trades

Rui (Portland) or Vanderbilt (Portland)
Gabe Vincent (Portland)
2031 1st (Portland)
Christian Wood (Toronto)
Cam Reddish (Portland)

Portland trades

Ayton (Toronto)
Sharpe (Toronto)
Robert Williams (Lakers)
Banton (cut)

The reasons they gave was Portland tanks for Flagg clears massive amounts of salary with Ayton plus two firsts. Talked about potential Boucher and Olynik moves for more assets. Toronto takes a swing with Ayton and gets Sharpe and tanks as well. Lakers get Poeltl and Williams fix their front court issues.

Follow up I seen Bruce Brown for Patrick Williams or in a bigger move for Ingram with extra(s) from Toronto.

It's honestly sooooooooo out of left field I think only LA would say yes. Portland probably hangs onto Sharpe and Toronto might say no because Ayton can't stay healthy but Sharpe it's a great project to have

[Ell Curry]

Dick for Lively should be the deal we should be pursuing.

Poeltl - Lively - Chomche
Barnes - Mogbo
Barrett - Battle
Agbaji - Walter
IQ - Shead

That's the line up I would be moving forward with next season. We would have enough front court depth to move Poeltl to the highest bidder and we can develop Lively and Chomche over the years to build the best defense in the league.

Dallas passes, they'll move Gafford for a wing, I think. Makes more money, too. Maybe next deadline, as an expiring, with Klay only having one bad year left, and the picks they have. Can go after a 30M type player.

I see this as our long-term plan with respect to Grady:

C - Poeltl - Chomche
Average center who is high efficiency on O which is nice. An athletic, defensive backup who hopefully can be a rim-runner shot blocker type (DeAndre Jordan, Lively, Capela, a mix of some of those types for good or ill) if he can develop in terms of reading the play on D.

PF - Barnes - Mogbo -
Similar roles, filing the stat sheet on both ends, playmaking and hopefully passable 3pt shooters on meh volume.

SF - (TRADE/RJ/1st) - Agbaji
I'm not an RJ guy long-term, but like Agbaji as a 3+D bench guy.

SG -(TRADE/RJ/1st)- Dick
Grady as the offensive centerpiece of the bench unit with Agbaji and Mogbo covering the best 2 guys from the opposing team's SG/SG/PF. Walter has potential to be the starter, but we also have first rounders and salary room. And maybe we just have 5 wings and run 11 guys, that's not uncommon (Memphis, Cleveland, some other teams I'm not thinking of). If 1-2 guys are hurt, you've got a normal 9 or 10 man rotation.

PG - Quickley - Shead?
Quickley hitting 3s and spacing the floor. Not sure about Shead yet. Eyes say not bad, spreadsheets are pretty ugly. And again, we have 3 firsts in the next 2 years, and this draft is full of on-ball guards.

But yeah, Chomche-Mogbo-Agbaji-Dick and a PG from next draft could be a great bench. Dick can hide on a weak offensive player with Mogbo and Agbaji guarding the better players on the wing/forward spot, and he can run around Mogbo and Chomche screens and have Mogbo and a PG setting him up.

[Tripod]

Raps are not trading Yak...for a more expensive, worse C

[JRoy]

These rumors have us linked to everyone seen this the player in brackets will be the team he's traded to

Toronto trades

Chris Boucher (Portland)
Jakob Poeltl (Lakers)
Garrett Temple (cut)
Kelly Olynyk (Portland)
2026 Indy first (Portland)

Lakers trades

Rui (Portland) or Vanderbilt (Portland)
Gabe Vincent (Portland)
2031 1st (Portland)
Christian Wood (Toronto)
Cam Reddish (Portland)

Portland trades

Ayton (Toronto)
Sharpe (Toronto)
Robert Williams (Lakers)
Banton (cut)

The reasons they gave was Portland tanks for Flagg clears massive amounts of salary with Ayton plus two firsts. Talked about potential Boucher and Olynik moves for more assets. Toronto takes a swing with Ayton and gets Sharpe and tanks as well. Lakers get Poeltl and Williams fix their front court issues.

Follow up I seen Bruce Brown for Patrick Williams or in a bigger move for Ingram with extra(s) from Toronto.

It's honestly sooooooooo out of left field I think only LA would say yes. Portland probably hangs onto Sharpe and Toronto might say no because Ayton can't stay healthy but Sharpe it's a great project to have

POR declines and blocks your number.

Godawful.

Also POR has traded with LAL in 40 years.

[James_Raptors]

Zero interest in Ayton (lol) .Let's see, he's a huge negative on defense, we're talking well below average.
He cannot knock down the 3 at a reliable percentage.He's 62 years old (right now) oh damn, oops, he's 26, he just look OLDer. And is making 34mill this, and guaranteed 35.5mill next.Clearly he's nowhere remotely close to worth that. And he's not good enough to be in the SL for a any roster attempting to be win meaningful games.So, are you suggestion grabbing a 7ft no-defense big man with limited range come off the bench , or act as a 6th man?He's not good, so we'd have to dump him off on someone, uhmmm, like Phoenix did, and Portland hypothetically would be trying to do.


Sharpe has proven very little. He's a defensive liability, doesn't shoot the 3 even at league average and will be looking for a new contract.Just because he's Canadian, doesn't make him good.So that trade would be about potential and what if's, and the hope that Sharpe can improve on both ends of the court.

I can't think of a single Portland Trailblazer player I'd want in our SL given their price tag, or simply their lack of talent. Every single player has some obvious hole and glaring deficiency, or they are overrated and/or overpaid. I'm So happy we're us and not them right now (yikes!). Maybe they'll get lucky in this draft? It's pretty deep.

[Psubs]

I mean lets chill on Lively. He averaged 7/7 in 22mpg in the playoffs. Pretty much any somewhat athletic C in the league can put up those numbers, especially with Luka with you. And Dick DEFINITELY plays for Dallas, excuse me?

Dick is for sure not a good defender, but Lively is also an absolute nothing offensively.

But Dick has a higher ceiling because this is an offensive league and he has the tools to have an elite offensive tool; shooting. Elite offensive tools + average D is just a more valuable player than an elite defender with no offensive game.

I think we just disagree on Livelys defensive future. If he was some absolute STUD on that end, he would be playing more than 24mpg, and wouldn't be splitting time with Daniel Gafford (who lets point out looks like a completely different guy in DAL than he did in WAS, and makes you wonder what Lively looks like in a different situation).

Plus, Lively is out hurt right now. DAL is obviously in win now - can they afford to see what happens with Lively who could end up not playing again this year?

Davion Mitchell for Dwight Powell and 2nd pick.

[mademan]

I mean lets chill on Lively. He averaged 7/7 in 22mpg in the playoffs. Pretty much any somewhat athletic C in the league can put up those numbers, especially with Luka with you. And Dick DEFINITELY plays for Dallas, excuse me?

Dick is for sure not a good defender, but Lively is also an absolute nothing offensively.

But Dick has a higher ceiling because this is an offensive league and he has the tools to have an elite offensive tool; shooting. Elite offensive tools + average D is just a more valuable player than an elite defender with no offensive game.

I think we just disagree on Livelys defensive future. If he was some absolute STUD on that end, he would be playing more than 24mpg, and wouldn't be splitting time with Daniel Gafford (who lets point out looks like a completely different guy in DAL than he did in WAS, and makes you wonder what Lively looks like in a different situation).

Plus, Lively is out hurt right now. DAL is obviously in win now - can they afford to see what happens with Lively who could end up not playing again this year?

I dont think Lively is great, honestly. But it's clear his physical tools give him a higher ceiling. He genuinely can be a defensive first team All-NBA kinda guy, and the thing is, he doesnt need to do anything on offense besides what he's doing (and getting better at it).

Dick, otoh, has to at least be solid defensively for him to stay on the court in the playoffs. He has a tougher burden to overcome, and it's not clear to me he can. He has real physical limitations. If he was a Korver like shooter, then the benefits outweigh the drawbacks, but he has yet to show he's a great shooter in this league, let alone an outlier like Korver.

Its not that im super high on Lively. Im just much more bearish on Dick. The 7 footer with elite physical tools who's already shown he can play real minutes on a title contender is far more valuable than the mediocre wing athlete who cant defend and who's still only a great shooter in theory.

Dick has been a great shooter. He has just been tasked with more offensive responsibility than he should this season. But his C+S open/wide open #'s are quite good.

Numbers are the numbers. The NBA is a league full of good, great and elite shooters...Dick doesnt stand out in any way. And at some point, it doesnt matter how good of a shooter you are in theory or how good you are in very specialized situations (open, C+S). If youre marketed as a shooter and youre shooting 35% from 3, youre not doing your job.

[Raptors Realtor]

I dont think Lively is great, honestly. But it's clear his physical tools give him a higher ceiling. He genuinely can be a defensive first team All-NBA kinda guy, and the thing is, he doesnt need to do anything on offense besides what he's doing (and getting better at it).

Dick, otoh, has to at least be solid defensively for him to stay on the court in the playoffs. He has a tougher burden to overcome, and it's not clear to me he can. He has real physical limitations. If he was a Korver like shooter, then the benefits outweigh the drawbacks, but he has yet to show he's a great shooter in this league, let alone an outlier like Korver.

Its not that im super high on Lively. Im just much more bearish on Dick. The 7 footer with elite physical tools who's already shown he can play real minutes on a title contender is far more valuable than the mediocre wing athlete who cant defend and who's still only a great shooter in theory.

Dick has been a great shooter. He has just been tasked with more offensive responsibility than he should this season. But his C+S open/wide open #'s are quite good.

Numbers are the numbers. The NBA is a league full of good, great and elite shooters...Dick doesnt stand out in any way. And at some point, it doesnt matter how good of a shooter you are in theory or how good you are in very specialized situations (open, C+S). If youre marketed as a shooter and youre shooting 35% from 3, youre not doing your job.

The big question is whether Lively can stay healthy because early on in his career it doesn't appear so.

[ArthurVandelay]

Springer and the 2025 WSH 2nd rd pick from Boston

[Thaddy]

Dick for Lively should be the deal we should be pursuing.

Poeltl - Lively - Chomche
Barnes - Mogbo
Barrett - Battle
Agbaji - Walter
IQ - Shead

That's the line up I would be moving forward with next season. We would have enough front court depth to move Poeltl to the highest bidder and we can develop Lively and Chomche over the years to build the best defense in the league.

Dallas passes, they'll move Gafford for a wing, I think. Makes more money, too. Maybe next deadline, as an expiring, with Klay only having one bad year left, and the picks they have. Can go after a 30M type player.

I see this as our long-term plan with respect to Grady:

C - Poeltl - Chomche
Average center who is high efficiency on O which is nice. An athletic, defensive backup who hopefully can be a rim-runner shot blocker type (DeAndre Jordan, Lively, Capela, a mix of some of those types for good or ill) if he can develop in terms of reading the play on D.

PF - Barnes - Mogbo -
Similar roles, filing the stat sheet on both ends, playmaking and hopefully passable 3pt shooters on meh volume.

SF - (TRADE/RJ/1st) - Agbaji
I'm not an RJ guy long-term, but like Agbaji as a 3+D bench guy.

SG -(TRADE/RJ/1st)- Dick
Grady as the offensive centerpiece of the bench unit with Agbaji and Mogbo covering the best 2 guys from the opposing team's SG/SG/PF. Walter has potential to be the starter, but we also have first rounders and salary room. And maybe we just have 5 wings and run 11 guys, that's not uncommon (Memphis, Cleveland, some other teams I'm not thinking of). If 1-2 guys are hurt, you've got a normal 9 or 10 man rotation.

PG - Quickley - Shead?
Quickley hitting 3s and spacing the floor. Not sure about Shead yet. Eyes say not bad, spreadsheets are pretty ugly. And again, we have 3 firsts in the next 2 years, and this draft is full of on-ball guards.

But yeah, Chomche-Mogbo-Agbaji-Dick and a PG from next draft could be a great bench. Dick can hide on a weak offensive player with Mogbo and Agbaji guarding the better players on the wing/forward spot, and he can run around Mogbo and Chomche screens and have Mogbo and a PG setting him up.

Gradey isn't a good NBA player. He can't shoot, dribble, or play defense. I don't understand why so many Raptor fans are horned up about this guy. Best case scenario he's an average NBA player, worst case he's out of the league, realistically he's another Huerter.

[Ell Curry]

Gradey isn't a good NBA player. He can't shoot, dribble, or play defense. I don't understand why so many Raptor fans are horned up about this guy. Best case scenario he's an average NBA player, worst case he's out of the league, realistically he's another Huerter.

I'm still assuming he can shoot. 87% from the line in his college and pro. Good rep and form. Huerter was pretty good a few years ago. Trade for a lotto protected first, paid about 150% of the MLE (so like 24M in next season's terms). You can have an above average bench with a shooter like that in your rotation, like Miami with Duncan Robinson, if you have stars who need some space and are good on D.

He's not a star, but a lot of good wing bench combos have looked like Gradey-Agbaji, with Grady hiding on D as much as possible.