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[Najeem27]

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lets talk about this...why is this so bad?

This is the easiest switch in the world yet this "well coached" team continues to f*ck these simple switches up.

Now Brunson is clearly at fault...that 100000% needs to be a switch...but come on...is it because Brunson is playing 44 minutes? That effort and communication is poor. That is inexcusable.

It’s not supposed to be anything unless the players/coach call it. If the coach says the gameplan is no switches then players will choose different angles to stay on their own man. They could’ve communicated better during that exchange but they aren’t going to just switch.

I honestly prefer Brunson on Harris than a guard tho. Thats part of the reason why he gave Dennis space. He doesn’t have the quickness defensively to keep up with most guards.

If JB moved up Harris has a wide open lane. There was no switch necessary Hart just had to D up and not leave so much room.

This is just lazy defense by switching for no reason instead of playing man to man and fighting over screens. Hart had a lot of room there switch was not needed at all

[NoDopeOnSundays]

The idea that Thibs has more control than Brunson here is preposterous. Ewing didn’t have the power that Brunson has in this organization. When Donte came back what did he say ? He said that’s what happens when you let Rick Brunson run the team Thibs. What does that tell you?

Who kept Hart out there instead of playing Mitch? It wasn't Rick or Jalen.


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[Jeff Van Gully]

Shouldn’t even need KAT to beat the Pistons. If Brunson and Cade cancel each other out the all you need is better production from the others to cancel out Tobias Harris and Dennis Schroeder. We traded 5 first round for a guy who can’t outplay either of those two and that’s just embarrassing

that's wild. i picked knicks to sweep. (glad i didn't put money on it.) but detroit is a good team! they on the way up.

it's not just matching names on paper. last night should have exemplified that sometimes it's about heart. that's their superpower. you can never discount that.

[god shammgod]

The idea that Thibs has more control than Brunson here is preposterous. Ewing didn’t have the power that Brunson has in this organization. When Donte came back what did he say ? He said that’s what happens when you let Rick Brunson run the team Thibs. What does that tell you?

But this conflates the issue of control with smart basketball. He runs the organization so he gets to double everybody up in shots? Maybe the main thing is that he's really a shooting guard who can dribble. That makes more sense than control.

He of course wants to win but he played the last two games like he wants to score 30 first and hopefully that's good enough for a win.

And Thibs can show him in the film room where he should have passed and if he doesn’t in the next game, all he can do is show him again. You guys never understand the power dynamics in the nba

[K_ick_God]

Why doesn't Hart initiate offense? It's what he did all last playoffs. Suddenly nothing lol. Why does JB handle every time?

Hart was basically the PG last playoffs. Maybe only works with Donte but you don't know that. Let the man initiate at the top.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

congratulations, and excellent gif.

so, are you saying you don't really want the thibslamists among your ranks?

Can they renounce their God king? If they can, they're welcome. But, watching the way those 2 games were coached and coming away thinking that man is good is basically being in a cult at this point.

https://www.ice.gov/


Thibslamists need to be snitched on at this point.

well, i will not be denouncing my faith. but at the nation of thibslam we embrace an evolving and socially conscious form of liberation theology. we share the goal of reaching the promised land. let's build, not destroy.

i can't speak for the other sects.

my brother. i am also aware that you are a proponent of strategically informing the authorities, known colloquially as snitching. i cannot tell another man how to walk his path, but this will leave you ostracized like alfamega.

Sounds like the nation of Thibslam needs democracy to me, I follow American ideology of replacing your faith with my own so that we can both agree with me.


Thibslam is a pathway to unemployement, please don't follow it into the light. When he is gone, we will dance in the streets of the Bronx and rejoice.





If the face was clearer I would put Thibs face on there

[Najeem27]

I like KAT and strongly dislike Randle

But had we kept them, we'd have two quicker decisionmakers ....which we need

Hindsight is 20/20

Ur joking right lol

[K_ick_God]

The idea that Thibs has more control than Brunson here is preposterous. Ewing didn’t have the power that Brunson has in this organization. When Donte came back what did he say ? He said that’s what happens when you let Rick Brunson run the team Thibs. What does that tell you?

But this conflates the issue of control with smart basketball. He runs the organization so he gets to double everybody up in shots? Maybe the main thing is that he's really a shooting guard who can dribble. That makes more sense than control.

He of course wants to win but he played the last two games like he wants to score 30 first and hopefully that's good enough for a win.

And Thibs can show him in the film room where he should have passed and if he doesn’t in the next game, all he can do is show him again. You guys never understand the power dynamics in the nba

True. But you can also present a different plan altogether, like Atkinson would. I'm not pining after him. But he has transformed that offense. Again, Jerome is basically a much better player than MB right now.

[3toheadmelo]

I like KAT and strongly dislike Randle

But had we kept them, we'd have two quicker decisionmakers ....which we need

Hindsight is 20/20

Great person here

[K_ick_God]

I like KAT and strongly dislike Randle

But had we kept them, we'd have two quicker decisionmakers ....which we need

Hindsight is 20/20

Ur joking right lol

No I'm not because I think if we are not going to let KAT be a dominant force in the offense, we are better off with Donte and Randle sucking up oxygen.

[Gravy]

You have to do better than this in 33 minutes when you are an all-star starter. Brunson and Thibs are not responsible for only 6 rebounds and 0 pts in the 2nd half.

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[Jeff Van Gully]

I like KAT and strongly dislike Randle

But had we kept them, we'd have two quicker decisionmakers ....which we need

Hindsight is 20/20

KAT trade or no, we would have been gucci if hartenstein ain't leave us.



that day was worse than getting bumped, god.

Yeah, we couldn't survive losing iHart. That's what I thought then and it's still true.

Maybe an Atkinson could create a high octane offense. But guys like Jerome are pretty big on that team. They are getting a lot out of him compared to what we get from MB.

But yeah, iHart was the whole ballgame.

i won't go as far as say ihart was everything. but it was too much change and too much loss to see these teams as the same animal.

we not being realistic about how much talent cleveland has AND the time they've had together. we whooped on that same group a couple years ago. they dragged the league all season this year. these things take time. taking nothing away from kenny. hope he wins COY. but they got 3 legit all-stars and one bagga elite role player. the additions to the core have been role player tweaks and time to go with that new approach. all the pieces matter.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Why doesn't Hart initiate offense? It's what he did all last playoffs. Suddenly nothing lol. Why does JB handle every time?

Hart was basically the PG last playoffs. Maybe only works with Donte but you don't know that. Let the man initiate at the top.

The opposing center will play about 20 feet off him if he's running offense, and they'll try and trap Brunson if Hart sets a screen for him. There's only two ways out of this with Hart, either he makes threes at a good percentage on volume, or you bench him for a center.


Also, all his hustle stuff is being drowned out because the Pistons have a younger, bigger, more athletic version of him in Ausar. The difference is the Pistons have realized you cannot play Ausar 35+mpg, so they keep him at 22mpg.

[prophet_of_rage]

And why would we want the ball out of Brunson’s hands? You guys want Mikal and Josh hart ISOs? Or watch KAT turn the ball over when he’s double teamed?

No, wr need ball movement. It can start in his hands and finish in his hands but he's got to move it around faster. He holds it 7 seconds every possession. That is nearly a 3rd of the shot clock. And he hilds the ball.10 minutes a game when the next Knick spend 3 minutes with it.

That is too much time with the ball.

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i don't want to contribute to your JB mission. but that's kind of what i'm talking about with the extra spaced 5 out. not so much that we will only take threes, but moving the ball around the horn a couple times should... tenderize their shell.

but they are doing a really impressive job on POA too. the hedging is very good. they're picking up from damn near half court. so, easier said than done.

the brunson/payne lineup gave them problems because they had to account for that creation twice and i think it spreads the scheme too thinly. i really liked the 2PG and big frontcourt juxtaposition we saw in game 1. because we need the size too.

kinda hype to see what adjustments happen thursday.

JB missiin?

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[3toheadmelo]

You have to do better than this in 33 minutes when you are an all-star starter. Brunson and Thibs are not responsible for only 6 rebounds and 0 pts in the 2nd half.

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Hes not assertive enough and he doesn’t pass the ball out quickly out of double teams to an open shooter like Randle did. I think KAT might be a third option. We gotta get a real second option in the summer.

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[Najeem27]

I like KAT and strongly dislike Randle

But had we kept them, we'd have two quicker decisionmakers ....which we need

Hindsight is 20/20

Ur joking right lol

No I'm not because I think if we are not going to let KAT be a dominant force in the offense, we are better off with Donte and Randle sucking up oxygen.

Donte and IHart was a big loss but Randle is joke. All Randle did was dribble and turn the ball over like this

[NoDopeOnSundays]

You have to do better than this in 33 minutes when you are an all-star starter. Brunson and Thibs are not responsible for only 6 rebounds and 0 pts in the 2nd half.

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Hes not assertive enough and he doesn’t pass the ball out quickly out of double teams to an open shooter like Randle did. I think KAT might be a third option. We gotta get a real second option in the summer.

What playoffs with us did any of this happen in?

[Najeem27]

You have to do better than this in 33 minutes when you are an all-star starter. Brunson and Thibs are not responsible for only 6 rebounds and 0 pts in the 2nd half.

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Hes not assertive enough and he doesn’t pass the ball out quickly out of double teams to an open shooter like Randle did. I think KAT might be a third option. We gotta get a real second option in the summer.

Yea ok now all of sudden Randle is Jokic lmaoo

[mpharris36]

Why doesn't Hart initiate offense? It's what he did all last playoffs. Suddenly nothing lol. Why does JB handle every time?

Hart was basically the PG last playoffs. Maybe only works with Donte but you don't know that. Let the man initiate at the top.

The opposing center will play about 20 feet off him if he's running offense, and they'll try and trap Brunson if Hart sets a screen for him. There's only two ways out of this with Hart, either he makes threes at a good percentage on volume, or you bench him for a center.


Also, all his hustle stuff is being drowned out because the Pistons have a younger, bigger, more athletic version of him in Ausar. The difference is the Pistons have realized you cannot play Ausar 35+mpg, so they keep him at 22mpg.

I keep saying this then use Hart as an off ball screener...You can get KAT/OG/Mikal open shots if the center isn't connected to Hart. Its what GS does with draymond all the time. They don't aways have him on the ball because teams can sag but you can use that to your benefit if Harts defender isn't connected then how do KAT/Mikal/OG's man be able to recover in enough time if they aren't getting help?

zero creativity. If you are just going to use him and make him a floor spacer you are playing right into what the team wants...if you are playing him just as an on ball screener they just trap.

So use him as an off ball/pin down screener and if Duren isn't connected we should be able to get clean looks for other players.