Draft Thread: Who do you want with the 13th pick? Stanley Johnson and WCS added..change votes if you want

[RunDogGun]

I know Philly kept trying to grab picks in each deal they were involved in, but what are they going to do with six picks this draft? First rounder, grab the best player, but five second rounders?

[NavLDO]

I know Philly kept trying to grab picks in each deal they were involved in, but what are they going to do with six picks this draft? First rounder, grab the best player, but five second rounders?

I would expect them to trade a few for a higher pick this year, or maybe on next year. Also, they could pick up a couple of Euro-stash types, and some ultimate boom-bust types in the 2nd--similar to what we did last year with Alec Brown. He's gonna either be a stud, or completely unusable, with little room in between.

Or maybe they pkg them with Dario Saric or Noel to ensure they get either Russell or Mudiay, depending where the lottery determines their pick.

That said, could you imagine if they got the #1 Overall pick? They have their C and PF of the future...or do they? They could select Towns/Okafor, and trade Noel to the Lakers, assuming the Lakers are in the top 5, then grab Mudiay:

Mudiay
Thompson
Covington
Towns
Embiid

Then Philly can continue with their agonizingly slow, decade-long rebuild!!

The Lakers would likely jump all over that deal to get a 21YO Noel, to start along side Randle, and Kobe, and then grab Dragic at PG and Max out Butler at SF this off-season to become instant contenders again.

Dragic
Kobe
Butler
Randle
Noel

I think I would literally be sick if the Lakers pulled something like that off.

[Damkac]

They won't. Butler isn't leaving Chicago.

[saintEscaton]

I know Philly kept trying to grab picks in each deal they were involved in, but what are they going to do with six picks this draft? First rounder, grab the best player, but five second rounders?

I would expect them to trade a few for a higher pick this year, or maybe on next year. Also, they could pick up a couple of Euro-stash types, and some ultimate boom-bust types in the 2nd--similar to what we did last year with Alec Brown. He's gonna either be a stud, or completely unusable, with little room in between.

Or maybe they pkg them with Dario Saric or Noel to ensure they get either Russell or Mudiay, depending where the lottery determines their pick.

That said, could you imagine if they got the #1 Overall pick? They have their C and PF of the future...or do they? They could select Towns/Okafor, and trade Noel to the Lakers, assuming the Lakers are in the top 5, then grab Mudiay:

Mudiay
Thompson
Covington
Towns
Embiid

Then Philly can continue with their agonizingly slow, decade-long rebuild!!

The Lakers would likely jump all over that deal to get a 21YO Noel, to start along side Randle, and Kobe, and then grab Dragic at PG and Max out Butler at SF this off-season to become instant contenders again.

Dragic
Kobe
Butler
Randle
Noel

I think I would literally be sick if the Lakers pulled something like that off.

This is the kind of fanfiction only delusional/entitled Lakers fans could dream up.

[jcsunsfan]

Philly is a great potential trade partner in this draft. They will need players that will produce and they cannot have all rookies. If there is any team that could be a possible destination for the Morris twins, its Philly. They are from Philly and Philly fans will love all those techs.

[saintEscaton]

Philly is a great potential trade partner in this draft. They will need players that will produce and they cannot have all rookies. If there is any team that could be a possible destination for the Morris twins, its Philly. They are from Philly and Philly fans will love all those techs.

They'll take the Morrii in return for a couple of second round picks. Sounds like a great deal

[Ryu]

Philly is a great potential trade partner in this draft. They will need players that will produce and they cannot have all rookies. If there is any team that could be a possible destination for the Morris twins, its Philly. They are from Philly and Philly fans will love all those techs.

They'll take the Morrii in return for a couple of second round picks. Sounds like a great deal

We can do better than that.

I can see the Kings and George Karl being interested in Morris twins.

[Damkac]

Philly is a great potential trade partner in this draft. They will need players that will produce and they cannot have all rookies. If there is any team that could be a possible destination for the Morris twins, its Philly. They are from Philly and Philly fans will love all those techs.

They'll take the Morrii in return for a couple of second round picks. Sounds like a great deal

Great deal, unfortunately not for Suns. Giving IT basically for free was a mistake. This would be another.

[NavLDO]

Philly is a great potential trade partner in this draft. They will need players that will produce and they cannot have all rookies. If there is any team that could be a possible destination for the Morris twins, its Philly. They are from Philly and Philly fans will love all those techs.

They'll take the Morrii in return for a couple of second round picks. Sounds like a great deal

Great deal, unfortunately not for Suns. Giving IT basically for free was a mistake. This would be another.

At the time it didn't seem too bad; back when Thornton seemed like, at worst, a solid back-up SG. Boy, did he stink up the joint in a hurry! But now, yeah; IT, on a great contract, is worth more than the 25-30 overall pick, NEXT year.

But the Morri for two 2nds, while at face value seems like a terrible deal, especially, because they are on favorable contracts, would be fine for a lot of folks on this forum.

As far as personally? I'm still somewhat conflicted on them. At the beginning of the season, I was pretty stoked about Kieff's salary, but he regressed a tad this season, then add their Technicals, Marcus' outburst, and now their legal issues, and I wonder if they go somewhere else if that wouldn't help this team's 'chemistry' somewhat. So, I guess what I'm saying is that two 2nds for the ability to retool to some degree, would be fine with me.

[jcsunsfan]

Philly is a great potential trade partner in this draft. They will need players that will produce and they cannot have all rookies. If there is any team that could be a possible destination for the Morris twins, its Philly. They are from Philly and Philly fans will love all those techs.

They'll take the Morrii in return for a couple of second round picks. Sounds like a great deal

Of course not. I am not advocating trading them for something like that.

[saintEscaton]

If u think Hinke is looking to trade down/swap firsts ur sorely mistaken, unless he's blown away with an offer he can't turn down. Definitely not for the Morrii.

[bwgood77]

So, Poeltl returning to Utah for soph season. I definitely didn't want him, but he could have gone before our pick and allowed someone else to slide. I don't know if he would be what Indiana is looking for but they certainly want to move on from Hibbert.

[thamadkant]

D'Angelo Russell developed right can be one of the next top SG in the league... can shoot, dribble, high IQ, can pass etc... Steph Curry/Brandon Roy type...

Bledsoe, Markieff Morris, Marcus Morris for pick 3.... assuming Lakers, Knicks gets that pick.

It may sound like an overpay, but its not.... less is more in this case.

[MrMiyagi]

D'Angelo Russell developed right can be one of the next top SG in the league... can shoot, dribble, high IQ, can pass etc... Steph Curry/Brandon Roy type...

Bledsoe, Markieff Morris, Marcus Morris for pick 3.... assuming Lakers, Knicks gets that pick.

It may sound like an overpay, but its not.... less is more in this case.

And our starting 4 is.....?

[thamadkant]

D'Angelo Russell developed right can be one of the next top SG in the league... can shoot, dribble, high IQ, can pass etc... Steph Curry/Brandon Roy type...

Bledsoe, Markieff Morris, Marcus Morris for pick 3.... assuming Lakers, Knicks gets that pick.

It may sound like an overpay, but its not.... less is more in this case.

And our starting 4 is.....?

Start Wright next to Len. For better defense and rebounding. Suns might have to pay him around 8 million a year anyways might as well maximise his talents.

Then shop around for one within the season or by next draft.


Suns need smart players who can shoot to run the offense and players like D'Angelo remind me of Curry/Roy.

[bwgood77]

D'Angelo Russell developed right can be one of the next top SG in the league... can shoot, dribble, high IQ, can pass etc... Steph Curry/Brandon Roy type...

Bledsoe, Markieff Morris, Marcus Morris for pick 3.... assuming Lakers, Knicks gets that pick.

It may sound like an overpay, but its not.... less is more in this case.

And our starting 4 is.....?

Start Wright next to Len. For better defense and rebounding. Suns might have to pay him around 8 million a year anyways might as well maximise his talents.

Then shop around for one within the season or by next draft.


Suns need smart players who can shoot to run the offense and players like D'Angelo remind me of Curry/Roy.

People here seem to be excessively high on Russell, but Mudiay is largely thought of as the better prospect. Apparently some GMs have Mudiay ahead of Okafor. Russell looked pretty good at times, but the expectations of all these rookies and how quickly they can make an impact is vastly overstated every year.

[Saberestar]

Chad Ford of ESPN.com released his latest mock draft Tuesday morning, and has the Suns selecting a familiar name with the 13th pick -- Frank Kaminsky of Wisconsin.

Big man Alex Len really started to come along this year, but the Suns don't have a lot of options in the middle behind him. For a team that will once again be eyeing the playoffs next year, Kaminsky should be a good fit. He's a different type of center than Len -- he thrives facing the basket and stretching the floor -- but he's an adequate rebounder and shot-blocker to play the middle. Some scouts love him and some think he's a potential bust, but this is the right point in the draft to roll the dice on Kaminsky.

[thamadkant]

And our starting 4 is.....?

Start Wright next to Len. For better defense and rebounding. Suns might have to pay him around 8 million a year anyways might as well maximise his talents.

Then shop around for one within the season or by next draft.


Suns need smart players who can shoot to run the offense and players like D'Angelo remind me of Curry/Roy.

People here seem to be excessively high on Russell, but Mudiay is largely thought of as the better prospect. Apparently some GMs have Mudiay ahead of Okafor. Russell looked pretty good at times, but the expectations of all these rookies and how quickly they can make an impact is vastly overstated every year.

I'm not going for "incremental" improvements with the upcoming draft.

I'm swinging for the fences... what I posted is what I would do and what I wish McD will do.
The Suns are in a situation where the 2-3 teams below them are rapidly improving and the teams above them are very willing to do what ever it takes to remain there. So I'm swinging for the fence indeed.

I believe, just I have with the previous studs in the last several drafts, that a high IQ multi-dimensional talent player will rise to the top... Russell is the one player that I think will thrive in the modern NBA, where the PG is a 3pt threat, a play maker, a high IQ player who can score anywhere. (Steph Curry, James Harden, Westbrook etc)
Mudiay could be the next John Wall sure... I like that comparison, but I rather have someone who doesnt rely too much on athleticism but instead uses fundamentals and high IQ.... D'Angelo Russell is that player. On some teams Mudiay would be ideal, but on the Suns team where shooters are lacking, I like Russell better.


Dont get me wrong if Towns is available... I would rather have him but he is likely to go No. 1.

[JMac1]

Chad Ford of ESPN.com released his latest mock draft Tuesday morning, and has the Suns selecting a familiar name with the 13th pick -- Frank Kaminsky of Wisconsin.

Big man Alex Len really started to come along this year, but the Suns don't have a lot of options in the middle behind him. For a team that will once again be eyeing the playoffs next year, Kaminsky should be a good fit. He's a different type of center than Len -- he thrives facing the basket and stretching the floor -- but he's an adequate rebounder and shot-blocker to play the middle. Some scouts love him and some think he's a potential bust, but this is the right point in the draft to roll the dice on Kaminsky.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Russell is my favourite, having said that I'm no better than anyone else at draft selections.

All-Star hit rate historically for players selected 2-5 is about 35%.

Pick 2-5 and 22m in cap space or Bledsoe, Morris, Morris, that'd be the equation.