Better player next season: Simmons or Doncic?

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Better player next season: Simmons or Doncic?

Poll ended at Sun May 31, 2020 11:20 am

Simmons
145
26%
Doncic
411
74%
 
Total votes: 556

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Re: Better player next season: Simmons or Doncic? 

Post#461 » by Bob8 » Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:17 am

Simmons still better, he has clearly better +/-, on/off.
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Re: Better player next season: Simmons or Doncic? 

Post#462 » by cool93 » Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:19 am

Bob8 wrote:Simmons still better, he has clearly better +/-, on/off.
Lmao

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Re: Better player next season: Simmons or Doncic? 

Post#463 » by baldur » Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:26 am

Bob8 wrote:Simmons still better, he has clearly better +/-, on/off.


most misleading stat type ever.
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Re: Better player next season: Simmons or Doncic? 

Post#464 » by LoneyROY » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:30 pm

Bob8 wrote:Simmons still better, he has clearly better +/-, on/off.


:lol: :lol:
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Re: Better player next season: Simmons or Doncic? 

Post#465 » by Wagonband » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:48 pm

cool93 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:Simmons still better, he has clearly better +/-, on/off.
Lmao

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He is being sarcastic. He is the biggest pro Doncic guy on the forum :lol:
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Re: Better player next season: Simmons or Doncic? 

Post#466 » by Johnny Bball » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:53 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:Simmons until Luka makes the playoffs. I think Simmons learned an awful lot last year. Not shooting wise, just otherwise.


Well one thing is for sure, Simmons doesn’t learn fast since he came back with pretty much the exact same game.
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Re: Better player next season: Simmons or Doncic? 

Post#467 » by Bob8 » Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:17 pm

Wagonband wrote:
cool93 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:Simmons still better, he has clearly better +/-, on/off.
Lmao

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He is being sarcastic. He is the biggest pro Doncic guy on the forum :lol:


..or I might change my mind reading very convincing and objective +/- analysis by a neutral writer.
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Re: Better player next season: Simmons or Doncic? 

Post#468 » by Pg81 » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:38 pm

nurseryc wrote:
wolfram wrote:
nurseryc wrote:
Simmons is better than Doncic at everything other than shooting beyond the keyway. Simmons has DPOY potential on the defensive end and is already elite, Doncic in comparison in a polite way does not have that potential and is a limited defensive player


This is nonsense. Luka's scoring is overall much better. His ability to shoot and his vision makes him better floor general, real point guard in playoff games, can read defenses, not a fake PG in a dunker's spot. Ben relies on athleticism and is less skilled overall, which makes him a liability in playoff games and in crunch time. Ben is the better defender and rebounder.


Disagree with most of your post. Ben has better vision, better passer, better defender, more athletic, quicker. Take Luka’s Shooting away and this is a joke comparison.


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Simmons is more athletic and the better defender, that's it. Passing and vision is a wash. Shooting is one of the most valuable skills to have and Simmons has yet to take a single step forward in regards to shooting. By the same token I can say that if you take away Simmons athleticism the comparison becomes a joke. Difference? One serious injury can actually do that to Simmons. Nothing can take away Doncic's shooting ability which has improved quite a lot, especially FT shooting.
If you're asking me who the Mavs best player is, I'd say Luka. A guy like Delon Wright probably rivals his impact though at this stage in his career. KP may as well if he gets his **** together.
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Re: Better player next season: Simmons or Doncic? 

Post#469 » by Petergrifindor » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:46 pm

Pg81 wrote:if you take away Simmons athleticism the comparison becomes a joke. Difference? One serious injury can actually do that to Simmons. Nothing can take away Doncic's shooting ability which has improved quite a lot, especially FT shooting.


A major injury can wreck any players career. It doesn't matter that you have supreme skills if you can't display them because physical problems.

That is what I fear with Durant, for example.
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Re: Better player next season: Simmons or Doncic? 

Post#470 » by Dirk » Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:14 pm

This is the poll:
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So 70+% voted Doncic before the season. The goal is to call out the 25%?

I know today is National Bump Doncic topics day, but this one doesn't make any sense to bump.

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