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hagredionis wrote:AleksandarN wrote:Nobody could do? You are bringing up individual team stats now that’s a stretch. Harden had 2800 points in 2019. You make it sound like it has been 40 yrs since someone scored 2300 points. What are we doing
But why exactly shouldn't I? Luka broke a franchise single season scoring record that stood for 40 years, how is that not relevant for the amazing, historical season he's having?
QPR wrote:hagredionis wrote:AleksandarN wrote:Nobody could do? You are bringing up individual team stats now that’s a stretch. Harden had 2800 points in 2019. You make it sound like it has been 40 yrs since someone scored 2300 points. What are we doing
But why exactly shouldn't I? Luka broke a franchise single season scoring record that stood for 40 years, how is that not relevant for the amazing, historical season he's having?
"Once again, Luka doing stuff that nobody could do for 40 years"
Bob8 wrote:QPR wrote:hagredionis wrote:
But why exactly shouldn't I? Luka broke a franchise single season scoring record that stood for 40 years, how is that not relevant for the amazing, historical season he's having?
"Once again, Luka doing stuff that nobody could do for 40 years"
And he has written most points scored by the Mav in a single season...
Oscar9992 wrote:Bob8 wrote:QPR wrote:
"Once again, Luka doing stuff that nobody could do for 40 years"
And he has written most points scored by the Mav in a single season...
Luka has highest PPG + APG + RPG since merger!
Has 2016-17 Peak Westbrook in a dust
AleksandarN wrote:Oscar9992 wrote:Bob8 wrote:
And he has written most points scored by the Mav in a single season...
Luka has highest PPG + APG + RPG since merger!
Has 2016-17 Peak Westbrook in a dust
Peak Westbrook was overrated. Considering how much stat padding he was doing. See this is a better record and accomplishment than the Mav’s team record mentioned earlier
Bob8 wrote:AleksandarN wrote:Oscar9992 wrote:
Luka has highest PPG + APG + RPG since merger!
Has 2016-17 Peak Westbrook in a dust
Peak Westbrook was overrated. Considering how much stat padding he was doing. See this is a better record and accomplishment than the Mav’s team record mentioned earlier
The biggest difference is in efficiency. Luka has 61.8 TS% and Westbrook had 55.5%.
Swish1906 wrote:Adams let rebounds bounce to the floor so Westbrook could pick them up, effectively killing any fastbreak chance for another WB rebound in the books
QPR wrote:Swish1906 wrote:Adams let rebounds bounce to the floor so Westbrook could pick them up, effectively killing any fastbreak chance for another WB rebound in the books
Westbrook getting rebounds literally created fast breaks as he would immediately then rush down the floor. It worked for OKC so no idea why people get so worked up about him getting rebounds.
His MVP was the perfect storm of narrative (keeping OKC in the playoffs after KD leaving, triple doubles record), impact (OKC was basically the worst team in the league when he was off the floor) and a fairly weak year for other candidates (Harden was the only other realistic candidate and he didn't finish the season as strongly). It really wasn't a bad MVP decision in context.
One thing that Westbrook's insane triple double stretch has done however is make people re-assess how they view counting stats and their impact though, which is a good thing. People are less shocked by box score numbers now and look deeper into actual advanced impact.
Swish1906 wrote:QPR wrote:Swish1906 wrote:Adams let rebounds bounce to the floor so Westbrook could pick them up, effectively killing any fastbreak chance for another WB rebound in the books
Westbrook getting rebounds literally created fast breaks as he would immediately then rush down the floor. It worked for OKC so no idea why people get so worked up about him getting rebounds.
His MVP was the perfect storm of narrative (keeping OKC in the playoffs after KD leaving, triple doubles record), impact (OKC was basically the worst team in the league when he was off the floor) and a fairly weak year for other candidates (Harden was the only other realistic candidate and he didn't finish the season as strongly). It really wasn't a bad MVP decision in context.
One thing that Westbrook's insane triple double stretch has done however is make people re-assess how they view counting stats and their impact though, which is a good thing. People are less shocked by box score numbers now and look deeper into actual advanced impact.
No there were plenty of situation where WB wasn’t even near the ball and he had to run from the 3p line to the rim to collect the ball/rebound. Enough time to waste any fastbreak chance „Adam’s rebound -> quick pass to WB…”
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Swish1906 wrote:QPR wrote:
Westbrook getting rebounds literally created fast breaks as he would immediately then rush down the floor. It worked for OKC so no idea why people get so worked up about him getting rebounds.
His MVP was the perfect storm of narrative (keeping OKC in the playoffs after KD leaving, triple doubles record), impact (OKC was basically the worst team in the league when he was off the floor) and a fairly weak year for other candidates (Harden was the only other realistic candidate and he didn't finish the season as strongly). It really wasn't a bad MVP decision in context.
One thing that Westbrook's insane triple double stretch has done however is make people re-assess how they view counting stats and their impact though, which is a good thing. People are less shocked by box score numbers now and look deeper into actual advanced impact.
No there were plenty of situation where WB wasn’t even near the ball and he had to run from the 3p line to the rim to collect the ball/rebound. Enough time to waste any fastbreak chance „Adam’s rebound -> quick pass to WB…”
Now we’re just making stuff up. Russ crashed the boards from all over the floor. Adams boxed out for Russ to go get the ball. Whatever you’re describing is nonsense and again weirdly removed from any relevance to a current MVP conversation by like 15 degrees. Just weird stuff.
AleksandarN wrote:
Archx wrote:AleksandarN wrote:
Using salaries to point out how much time someone missed is kinda wrong on so many levels. The other tweet that you included had a much better argument i would say.
AleksandarN wrote:Archx wrote:AleksandarN wrote:
Using salaries to point out how much time someone missed is kinda wrong on so many levels. The other tweet that you included had a much better argument i would say.
Funny you disregard games missed ranked 17th this year
AleksandarN wrote:Archx wrote:AleksandarN wrote:
Using salaries to point out how much time someone missed is kinda wrong on so many levels. The other tweet that you included had a much better argument i would say.
Funny you disregard games missed ranked 17th this year
hagredionis wrote:AleksandarN wrote:Archx wrote:
Using salaries to point out how much time someone missed is kinda wrong on so many levels. The other tweet that you included had a much better argument i would say.
Funny you disregard games missed ranked 17th this year
Games missed by players who average at least 20 mpg
Mavs:
Kleber 38
Exum 26
J.Green 25
Lively 24
Irving 22
D.Jones 6
G.Williams 5
THJ 3
TOTAL: 149 games
Nuggets:
Murray 23
Gordon 9
Caldwell-Pope 6
Porter 1
TOTAL: 39 games
The difference is even much bigger than I thought. The more I look at it the more I think Luka should be the MVP.
