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Trades and Transactions 2025 continued x2

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Post#461 » by TheGreenArrow » Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:22 pm

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Totally agree!!!!!!!!!

He'd be the perfect fit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Especially if Jenkins becomes coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post#462 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:27 pm

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Totally agree!!!!!!!!!

He'd be the perfect fit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Especially if Jenkins becomes coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


have always liked his offensive skillset.

hate pretty much everything else about his game.
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Post#463 » by KnixinSix » Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:33 pm

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Totally agree!!!!!!!!!

He'd be the perfect fit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Especially if Jenkins becomes coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


have always liked his offensive skillset.

hate pretty much everything else about his game.



Would he actually take the taxpayers MLE though? I don't know if we can afford him any other way.
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Post#464 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:35 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
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Totally agree!!!!!!!!!

He'd be the perfect fit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Especially if Jenkins becomes coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


have always liked his offensive skillset.

hate pretty much everything else about his game.



Would he actually take the taxpayers MLE though? I don't know if we can afford him any other way.


seeing as how it's half his current salary, i'm thinking not.
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Post#465 » by Ravenxvirall » Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:35 pm

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If Bridges doesn't sign his extension it will be him. It's the way the Knicks operate.

I still think they want to give KAT another chance with a more modern offensive coach.

The only other player could be OG. Who seemed to speak out about touches early in the year ect. I don't think he wants to just a 3/D guy.

Og should learn how to dribble before complaining about more touches.


OG will never be a super smooth, quick twitch, explosive type player. Thats simply not who he is. He is also not some hang in the air contested circus shot maker either. However what he does do well :defense, 3 ball, back door cuts/timing, he is pretty elite at.

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Post#466 » by spree2kawhi » Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:39 pm

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RHODEY wrote:He's an Allstar, former DPOY, shoots 48%FG. 37+ 3pt, dropped over 22 ppg last season, only 25, best player on a near 50 win western playoff team...in what context is he inconsistent?

In this year’s playoffs his production dropped to 16 ppg, 5 rpg on 27 3P%, 37.9 FG% in four losses. He’s inconsistent. Also look up his regular season game logs. His production is up and down all over the place.

He’s a great positional fit, but if you don’t like Bridges, I don’t think you’ll like him much. I like Bridges and I’d be down with Jackson jr., just don’t expect too much.


In theory depending on how it shakes out , you'd have....

1. Brunson
2. KAT
3. JJJ
4. OG (or Bridges)

As your top 4...

With that firepower, You don't need JJJ to be MJ.

What you want is high efficiency when you have 4 legit 18-20+ pt scorers on team. JJJ last 3 years is near 48% and last year his 3 ball was near 38%. Add in the DPOY level defense and rim protection, he is EXACTLY what this team would need if they are committed to building around KAT and Brunson.

1) You’re not getting him anyway.
2) You could’ve described Bridges and OG exactly the way you described JJJ. Why not keep this core? I get the positional fit, but I don’t see a combo of Towns and JJJ guard the perimeter particularly well either.


I would love the acquisition, but it’s a pipe-dream and we’re good anyway.
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Post#467 » by god shammgod » Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:39 pm

The Knicks can’t afford to lose OG’s defense. It has to be one of Mikal or Kat. Neither one fits great.
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Post#468 » by spree2kawhi » Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:41 pm

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In theory depending on how it shakes out , you'd have....

1. Brunson
2. KAT
3. JJJ
4. OG (or Bridges)

As your top 4...

With that firepower, You don't need JJJ to be MJ.

What you want is high efficiency when you have 4 legit 18-20+ pt scorers on team. JJJ last 3 years is near 48% and last year his 3 ball was near 38%. Add in the DPOY level defense and rim protection, he is EXACTLY what this team would need if they are committed to building around KAT and Brunson.


Not enough depth to make a title push. These teams are flying around in the playoffs and have the depth to do so. We can’t trade Bridges + for him.


Did you work out the math before making that assumption? Lets say its Bridges, Mitch and a couple picks for JJJ.....

MLE probably gets you one of Nance Jr, Trent Jr, Oubre or Simmons

JJJ/KAT/Huk
KAT/JJJ/OG
OG/Hart/MLE
McBride/Hart/MLE/ Wright (vet min)
Brunson/McBride/Wright (vet min)

Extended bench: Kolek, Dadiet, McCullar, 2025 2nd round pick, possibly another vet min

9 deep , 5 on extended bench...I would say that is more than fine ....

In my opinion, we’re better now.
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Post#469 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:42 pm

god shammgod wrote:The Knicks can’t afford to lose OG’s defense. It has to be one of Mikal or Kat. Neither one fits great.

KAT has to be the first guy to go. Our coaching staff and players were frustrated with his defense.
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Post#470 » by spree2kawhi » Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:43 pm

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RHODEY wrote:I guess thats fair, but I do think JJJ is still getting better, but yeah hes got flaws.

Don’t get me wrong, I like him very much, he and Turner are the two players I’d put next to Towns.

However, I really like what we have and I think OG is in the same tier. I’m also not a fan of breaking up Wingstop anyway. That’s a more valuable thing than folks seem to understand. Horford is my best answer for what we should do in the offseason, but of course I get why guys are losing it over JJJ.

Plus,https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280801/Grizzlies-Expected-To-Offer-Jaren-Jackson-Jr-$200M+-Extension;-Ja-Morant-Considered-Less-Likely


Turner? He sucks. Have you been watching the finals? He's constantly outmuscled by OKC guys five inches smaller, has hands like Mitch after a fortnite bender and has been iffy shooting 3's (which is his only real skill). No thanks, with a bullet. :nod:

Keep Mitch, add Horford or someone from the list I came up with earlier (Capela, Looney, Boucher etc.) and also go after DiVincenzo. That’s my preference anyway.

Getting Turner was never an idea, he is simply an example of a good fit with Towns.
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Post#471 » by spree2kawhi » Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:46 pm

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Post#472 » by Jeffrey » Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:59 pm

So I'm going to move on from KD, who was on my wishlist. Lets just build with what we got.

Sign & Trade for Luke Kennard with Precious? Is that possible???
Vet Minimum - Al Hoford or Brook Lopez - need a stretch 5.
Vet Minimum - Delon Wright or Landry Shamet
Vet Minimum - Marcus Morris or Larry Nance - stretch 4 and bruiser

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Post#473 » by spree2kawhi » Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:59 pm

After watching the entirety of last season and the playoff run to the ECF, I think we can all agree that Karl-Anthony Towns does not have to be the first guy to go smh… :lol: quite the contrary, actually we don’t have to do anything at all and we’ll still be among the very favorites in the East next year.
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Post#474 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:26 pm

god shammgod wrote:The Knicks can’t afford to lose OG’s defense. It has to be one of Mikal or Kat. Neither one fits great.


Don’t really love the idea of trading either wing for another forward/center. The team needs another guy that can create off the dribble. If you lose Mikal, it makes our offense even more Brunson centric and I don’t really trust OG to create a shot in an important moment of a game. If you keep Mikal then neither of him or OG are happy with their roles on offense. Not an easy spot to be in right now for the front office.
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Post#475 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:28 pm

The idea of Luke Kennard is better than the player. Dude always finds himself outside of rotations while being one of the best shooters in the league. I’d rather try to poach Sam Merrill from Cleveland.
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Post#476 » by DaGawd » Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:28 pm

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god shammgod wrote:The Knicks can’t afford to lose OG’s defense. It has to be one of Mikal or Kat. Neither one fits great.


Don’t really love the idea of trading either wing for another forward/center. The team needs another guy that can create off the dribble. If you lose Mikal, it makes our offense even more Brunson centric and I don’t really trust OG to create a shot in an important moment of a game. If you keep Mikal then neither of him or OG are happy with their roles on offense. Not an easy spot to be in right now for the front office.

i think with a proper coach the offense would be fine if we utilize more back door cuts and off ball actions. og is an amazing cutter yet we never really used it to our advantage under thibs
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Post#477 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:29 pm

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Totally agree!!!!!!!!!

He'd be the perfect fit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Especially if Jenkins becomes coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Kennard is ok. He's like Vanilla THJr.

He'd be ok as a starter or 6th man, but at what cost, both in salary (cap implications) and if it needs to be a trade.

For instance, not sure I'd trade Hart for him, and I don't particularly like Hart as a starter.
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Post#478 » by KnixinSix » Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:36 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
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Not enough depth to make a title push. These teams are flying around in the playoffs and have the depth to do so. We can’t trade Bridges + for him.


Did you work out the math before making that assumption? Lets say its Bridges, Mitch and a couple picks for JJJ.....

MLE probably gets you one of Nance Jr, Trent Jr, Oubre or Simmons

JJJ/KAT/Huk
KAT/JJJ/OG
OG/Hart/MLE
McBride/Hart/MLE/ Wright (vet min)
Brunson/McBride/Wright (vet min)

Extended bench: Kolek, Dadiet, McCullar, 2025 2nd round pick, possibly another vet min

9 deep , 5 on extended bench...I would say that is more than fine ....

In my opinion, we’re better now.


The team we have right now is very very good. However the spectre of A 30 game a year Mitch does not make us better though. Risk is too great. JJJ is also DPOY level defense and rim protection including a 38% 3 ball.
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Post#479 » by BKlutch » Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:38 pm

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god shammgod wrote:The Knicks can’t afford to lose OG’s defense. It has to be one of Mikal or Kat. Neither one fits great.


Don’t really love the idea of trading either wing for another forward/center. The team needs another guy that can create off the dribble. If you lose Mikal, it makes our offense even more Brunson centric and I don’t really trust OG to create a shot in an important moment of a game. If you keep Mikal then neither of him or OG are happy with their roles on offense. Not an easy spot to be in right now for the front office.

i think with a proper coach the offense would be fine if we utilize more back door cuts and off ball actions. og is an amazing cutter yet we never really used it to our advantage under thibs

I think back door cuts and off ball actions - for OG and others - would have made our offense a whole lot harder to defend. A big reason I'm looking forward to a new coach. I think certainly OG would be good at this, but why not Mikal and the other starters? What about the kids? No need to trade if better coaching could make us better.
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Post#480 » by BKlutch » Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:40 pm

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Totally agree!!!!!!!!!

He'd be the perfect fit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Especially if Jenkins becomes coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Kennard is ok. He's like Vanilla THJr.

He'd be ok as a starter or 6th man, but at what cost, both in salary (cap implications) and if it needs to be a trade.

For instance, not sure I'd trade Hart for him, and I don't particularly like Hart as a starter.

Original THJr, at a fraction of his current salary, and coming off the bench, wouldn't be that bad. But that's never going to happen for his reasons and ours.
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