Doctor MJ wrote:
Again, if the Lakers are making decisions for non-basketball reasons, then that's not good for the basketball. 'sall I'm saying.
And 'sall I am saying is the Lakers make moves for basketball reasons because as you know financially decisions and basketball decisions are one in the same for the Lakers. If you disagree then thats ok.
Like what though? And don't just say "We can't possibly know." I get it, we can't know all that's going on, but can you at least give a plausible thing that could happen here?
Again. The Agents mention was part of the entire " business model' that you or I are not privy too. We don't strike deals with major media outlets for billions of dollars, we don't give contracts to employees for 50 millon, we don't talk to agents we are not in the trenches of this business.
Simply--- You and I can agree or disagree that with all that ^^^ really ^^^ important stuff I mentioned above that the Lakers FO has a plan. Clearly you disagree and that is fine. I am sorry I cannot offer you more than that.
In the end, I just don't see that many types of possibilities. If you're acquiring a star, it's either because the star wants to come to you, or the team he's on decides they're better off giving them to you.And in the case of the latter, that seems clearly to be a case of something that just comes up. Maybe something like that is happening as we speak on some team sure, but the odds of that are very remote.
Fair enough. . Player movement in the NBA to me always seems fluid. Every year teams change and with the new CBA teams have to learn how to change differently. Some are motivated by other factors outside of basketball and those that are motivated to win find ways to get players.
Who knows though I am still a Laker fan if they they suck.
Similarly, odds are very remote that a future free agent has basically given a guarantee.
I have no idea where this came from.
Want to take issue that I post on a message board only having very-likely understanding of what's going on? Okay, but them's some high standards for the innernetz.
If they pull of a big deal tomorrow, I'll eat crow and give praise unto teh Busses, but in the mean time, I'm going to go with how it looks.
And now this got weird.
Eminently reasonable that. The context of the thread pits us against one another and makes us speak with a vehemence that sometimes lacks courtesy. I apologize if I'm being a jerk.
haha.. it's all good.
Totally sympathy. Lakers got so screwed over by Stern on the Paul deal.
Trust? In the sense that I'm not going to say they have bad management, certainly. In the sense that I'm going to assume that every move they make is a good one? Nah.
I too was upset we didn't get Paul. I love that guy. But it happened. It's not the Lakers are not on the other end of those deals alot. And again, I am not asking you to trust them. Clearly you don't
My position....I trust them right now and until I feel they are not making basketball decisions we can certainly disagree.
Fair enough. I readily concede that there's a slight possibility that all would make sense basketball-wise if I just knew what they knew, but I think the explanation here of "more info" really just means they were afraid of things that as a fan I don't have to be afraid of. It makes their choice understandable, but not necessarily wiser.
If it's the right move or not is yet to be seen. I think we can both agree on that. But at the end of the day the team needs to be healthy financially to make the moves we ultimately want them to make.