"We Tried So Hard, and (Haven't) Got so Far, But in the End, It Doesn't Even Matter" Trade Thread

[Fierce1]

Sure, the Jays are bad in ISO this season. Everyone already knew that though, is common knowledge.

Are you going to admit that Jaylen dribbles and holds the ball far less than Ingram and Zion? For all my issues with Jaylen, him going ISO too much or holding the ball too long isn’t one of them.

Like I said, I'm not going to dispute your stats.

It's just a case of Jaylen is not very good on iso plays, so why do it?

If Ingram and Zion are doing more dribbling and holding the ball then you wouldn't know because the Pels have better ball movement, they're 12th in assists per game.

The Celts are only 27th in assists per game.

Ingram is even averaging more assists per game than Jaylen.

[Ernest]

Is it Boogie time yet?

yeah, what's going on with him?

[Feed Your Head]

Sure, the Jays are bad in ISO this season. Everyone already knew that though, is common knowledge.

Are you going to admit that Jaylen dribbles and holds the ball far less than Ingram and Zion? For all my issues with Jaylen, him going ISO too much or holding the ball too long isn’t one of them.

Like I said, I'm not going to dispute your stats.

It's just a case of Jaylen is not very good on iso plays, so why do it?

If Ingram and Zion are doing more dribbling and holding the ball then you wouldn't know because the Pels have better ball movement, they're 12th in assists per game.

The Celts are only 27th in assists per game.

Ingram is even averaging more assists per game than Jaylen.

The Pelicans have better ball movement because the team has more playmakers, and guys who keep the ball moving. Also because Ingram is a more natural playmaker than Tatum and especially Jaylen.

When it comes to ball movement I get more frustrated by Tatum than Jaylen, because I think Tatum has really good vision, he just is too slow in making decisions. He was more decisive down the stretch last season, was in constant attack mode. I think covid plays into the attack mode thing, but not the ball sticking to him. I just don’t think Jaylen has any real vision, outside the most basic of plays.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

If the rumour about LMA is true, if Danny or Zarren have placed a call to the Spurs, then my fear is confirmed - that we are scrambling because we know that waiting till the summer to use that TPE is going to be bad.

[MagicBagley18]

Is it Boogie time yet?

yeah, what's going on with him?

Teams are holding out to see what happens with Drummond and LMA and then will circle back around to boogie if at all. We could probably get him right now if we really wanted him

[Fierce1]

The Pelicans have better ball movement because the team has more playmakers, and guys who keep the ball moving. Also because Ingram is a more natural playmaker than Tatum and especially Jaylen.

When it comes to ball movement I get more frustrated by Tatum than Jaylen, because I think Tatum has really good vision, he just is too slow in making decisions. He was more decisive down the stretch last season, was in constant attack mode. I think covid plays into the attack mode thing, but not the ball sticking to him. I just don’t think Jaylen has any real vision, outside the most basic of plays.

I agree.

That's why I proposed Kemba to the Pels because maybe Kemba would be a better fit there.

Because right now, there's just no chemistry between the Jays and Kemba.

[Feed Your Head]

The Pelicans have better ball movement because the team has more playmakers, and guys who keep the ball moving. Also because Ingram is a more natural playmaker than Tatum and especially Jaylen.

When it comes to ball movement I get more frustrated by Tatum than Jaylen, because I think Tatum has really good vision, he just is too slow in making decisions. He was more decisive down the stretch last season, was in constant attack mode. I think covid plays into the attack mode thing, but not the ball sticking to him. I just don’t think Jaylen has any real vision, outside the most basic of plays.

I agree.

That's why I proposed Kemba to the Pels because maybe Kemba would be a better fit there.

Because right now, there's just no chemistry between the Jays and Kemba.

But like everyone has said, if Kemba is a bad fit for the Celtics, he’s a bad fit for the Pelicans.

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[Fierce1]

But like everyone has said, if Kemba is a bad fit for the Celtics, he’s a bad fit for the Pelicans.

Unless Kemba ends up with the Pels, we'll never know for sure.

But if Kemba to the Pels is not possible then just move on.

If Kemba has to stay with the Celts this year then we have no choice but to accept it.

As long as Ainge makes a move to improve the team, I can tolerate Kemba.

If there's no move by Ainge then I'm cancelling my League Pass for the rest of the season.

This current Celts team is just not fun to watch.

[zoyathedestroya]

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[MagicBagley18]

But like everyone has said, if Kemba is a bad fit for the Celtics, he’s a bad fit for the Pelicans.

Unless Kemba ends up with the Pels, we'll never know for sure.

But if Kemba to the Pels is not possible then just move on.

If Kemba has to stay with the Celts this year then we have no choice but to accept it.

As long as Ainge makes a move to improve the team, I can tolerate Kemba.

If there's no move by Ainge then I'm cancelling my League Pass for the rest of the season.

This current Celts team is just not fun to watch.

If there’s no moves and u cancel league pass will you also be so pissed and not interested that you won’t be here anymore?

[Celts17Pride]

If the rumour about LMA is true, if Danny or Zarren have placed a call to the Spurs, then my fear is confirmed - that we are scrambling because we know that waiting till the summer to use that TPE is going to be bad.

Some executives around the league who spoke with HoopsHype believe the Boston Celtics could join the mix to acquire Aldridge using their $28.5 million trade exception despite Danny Ainge recently suggesting the team will most likely use the exception during the offseason.

Some executives, could join the mix?

Complete non story

[Fierce1]

If there’s no moves and u cancel league pass will you also be so pissed and not interested that you won’t be here anymore?

I'll just find ways to watch the Celts for free.

[Curmudgeon]

It's pretty clear to me that if you want to shake up this team instead of nibbling around the edges, either Jalen Brown or Kemba Walker has to go.

So--leaving aside the number of picks you would have to move one way or another to make the deals "fair", I would offer Brown to Golden State for Wiseman and Oubre. Oubre is a punk but he can shoot, and Wiseman could be a quality center for the next 10 years. This move saves money for the Celtics (Oubre is expiring), and allows Golden State to bring in some immediate help for Curry. It also gives the Celtics some financial breathing space to resign Theis and Smart.

Then I try to move TT to Phoenix for Jae Crowder.

Lastly, I move Kemba into the sixth man role. If he doesn't like it, he can demand a trade and I'll encourage his agent to go out and find one.

So that leaves the Celtics with Wiseman and Timelord at the 5, Theis, Crowder and Tatum at the 3-4 (with spot duty for G. Williams), Oubre, Smart and Pritchard at the 1-2. Kemba provides firepower off the bench/ That's a 10 man rotation with more scoring balance than the team presently has.

It all depends on how you feel about Wiseman. I think he will be a star. In fact, no team in the NBA will have two young centers as good as Wiseman and Timelord, and there will always be rim protection on the floor.

[Jammer]

I am just making this up figuring out the hardcap and taxes is going to be an issue. But Ainge could use the TPE to acquire Aldridge and flip him as the salary in a trade to DAL for the Porzingis. No idea what is going on in DAL their roster is crazy or what it would take for them to move Porzingis but it could at least work.

I want nothing to do with arrogant Porzingis and that asinine agent he calls his brother.

[Feed Your Head]

Someone here mentioned Austin Rivers, maybe Celts17Pride?

Dude is an ISO superstar this year, obviously a tiny sample but lol.

1.42 PPP, is in the 99th percentile.

[Fierce1]

I am just making this up figuring out the hardcap and taxes is going to be an issue. But Ainge could use the TPE to acquire Aldridge and flip him as the salary in a trade to DAL for the Porzingis. No idea what is going on in DAL their roster is crazy or what it would take for them to move Porzingis but it could at least work.

I want nothing to do with arrogant Porzingis and that asinine agent he calls his brother.

Agree.

I also don't like Porzingis.

[MagicBagley18]

I am just making this up figuring out the hardcap and taxes is going to be an issue. But Ainge could use the TPE to acquire Aldridge and flip him as the salary in a trade to DAL for the Porzingis. No idea what is going on in DAL their roster is crazy or what it would take for them to move Porzingis but it could at least work.

I want nothing to do with arrogant Porzingis and that asinine agent he calls his brother.

Why wouldn’t Dallas just trade porzingis for lma and Ning include us

[Celts17Pride]

Someone here mentioned Austin Rivers, maybe Celts17Pride?

Dude is an ISO superstar this year, obviously a tiny sample but lol.

1.42 PPP, is in the 99th percentile.

Tough finding useful players making $3-5 million per year that teams are willing to move. There use to be a ton of these players in the NBA. Now there are about a dozen.

[Sactowndog]

Watching Hawks-Kings and there’s about 17 guys we have or have had interest in.

Including an OKONGWU sighting! He looks .. fine.
I want all the Kings players (Barnes, Halliburton, Holmes, Bagley, Hield, Fox) yet their team sucks go figure.

That's a very obvious coaching problem.

I stopped watching the Kings-Hawks game when Atlanta got a big lead.

The Hawks are bad defensively, but the Kings are worse!

Bagley and Buddy have zero defensive recognition and Joseph is cooked. Since two of those three are on the floor at all times it tears your team defense to shreds.