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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#481 » by Outside » Fri Oct 8, 2021 2:01 pm

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Post#482 » by Scoots1994 » Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:43 pm

Full go in practice, ruled out of the next 3 games.

Apparently his assigned development coach is Atkinson which tells you the priority they are putting on it.

We know who is Wiseman's main development coach, and now Kuminga's. I wonder who is working with Moody?
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Post#483 » by KevinMcreynolds » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:17 pm

if he gets DNP - CDs like Moody ima be salty af
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Post#484 » by Scoots1994 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:19 pm

KevinMcreynolds wrote:if he gets DNP - CDs like Moody ima be salty af


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Post#485 » by KevinMcreynolds » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:34 pm

yeah, I can already tell I'm not going to like Kerr's handling of the rookies
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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#486 » by EvanZ » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:38 pm

The rookies will get minutes if it doesn't cost us wins. Plenty of opportunities coming up in this stretch (2X vs OKC). That's what "chasing wins" looks like. I just hope Wiseman is given the same treatment.

If we started out 0-3 and Moody isn't getting any minutes, I'd probably start to whine about it. But we're 3-0. Can't really complain about rookies not getting minutes on a winning team.
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Post#487 » by Chupchup » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:41 pm

We are after wins. I mean I like Kuminga and all but it's not like he dominated g league last year nor summer league nor preseason.

He had good moments but he will probably get Moody like mins.
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Post#488 » by Twinkie defense » Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:41 pm

I don't think Kuminga's season is going to be this season... he's a project for the long term.

Hopefully Wiseman and Moody can do something this season.
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Post#489 » by Impuniti » Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:18 pm

EvanZ wrote:The rookies will get minutes if it doesn't cost us wins. Plenty of opportunities coming up in this stretch (2X vs OKC). That's what "chasing wins" looks like. I just hope Wiseman is given the same treatment.

If we started out 0-3 and Moody isn't getting any minutes, I'd probably start to whine about it. But we're 3-0. Can't really complain about rookies not getting minutes on a winning team.

Wiseman is 100% going to get chances. They specifically didn't get a big which is the 1 weakness of this team just so Wiseman can get a real shot to play a role this year.
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Post#490 » by and1GS » Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:54 pm

He'll get chances, but I'd be surprised if they were 15+ mpg opportunities until he shows some progress (or if the matchup demands it).
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Post#491 » by TB » Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:44 pm

This seasons motto is Chasing Wins. Nobody is going to get minutes unless they are helping the team. And nobody is hopping ahead in the rotation unless a rotation player is consistently trending negative.

After 3 games we are running a 10 man rotation. And nobody in that 10 man rotation has performed poorly.

Steph / Iggy
Poole / Lee
Wiggins / JTA
Dray / Otto
Loon / Bjelica

If anyone is out for a game, or maybe playing terribly, you probably have GP2 fill in for the guards (like he did with Iggy out), Moody for wings, Kumings for F's, Wiseman for C's. Those guys are going to have to use garbage time and these fill-in spots to prove they are outplaying the people in the 10 man rotation. It's fun having depth!
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Post#492 » by Twinkie defense » Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:48 pm

Impuniti wrote:They specifically didn't get a big which is the 1 weakness of this team just so Wiseman can get a real shot to play a role this year.

Kerr wants to go small, which is the main reason the Warriors didn't add more bigs to the roster. Kerr specifically talked about things being a lot different than a few season back when they used to stock extra centers:

The Warriors plan on playing small this season, as they did to finish last season. That’s especially true now that James Wiseman has been ruled out for full-speed practices in camp and through the preseason as he comes back from the knee injury that sidelined him for the last months of last season. Planning to go small means the Warriors don’t necessarily need a third center, though projected starter Kevon Looney is the only healthy true big man on the roster.

“I think the league has changed quite a bit,” Kerr said. “I know if you look at our teams historically over the last six, seven years we’ve always carried a lot of centers. But think about the last part of last season. We played Draymond at five so much. We even played Juan (Toscano-Anderson) at five. The league seems to be getting smaller and quicker every single year. So I think we’re less inclined to carry a bunch of centers like we used to.”

https://theathletic.com/2845999/2021/09/24/kawakami-steve-kerr-on-the-warriors-2021-22-roster-and-playing-style-his-relationship-with-draymond-green-and-much-more/

Otto Porter Jr. will get some time at center this season, too.

When Wiseman does get some chances his role is going to be very limited and defined, not open and catered-to like it was last season. I think Wiseman's PT will depend totally on how well he executes his more limited and defined role for the team, and not according to some desire to have more size on the court.
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Post#493 » by The-Power » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:10 pm

Twinkie defense wrote:Kerr wants to go small, which is the main reason the Warriors didn't add more bigs to the roster. Kerr specifically talked about things being a lot different than a few season back when they used to stock extra centers:
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I think Wiseman's PT will depend totally on how well he executes his more limited and defined role for the team, and not according to some desire to have more size on the court.

Then you know better than Kerr.

"Well, we really don't have a lob threat right now in our pick-and-roll game, so James will give us a rim-runner in transition and a lob threat in the pick-and-roll," Kerr said Saturday to NBC Sports Bay Area's Monte Poole. "And obviously the size and length defensively."

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/steve-kerr-explains-what-warriors-miss-james-wiseman-out

Of course Wiseman is not just going to be gifted minutes if he completely sucks. But the coaches are well aware of the dimension Wiseman adds, which is size/length on defense and vertical spacing on offense.
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Post#494 » by Twinkie defense » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:53 pm

I think once Kuminga fell to #7 he was probably seen as a no-brainer pick by the Warriors brass, but interesting to read this article that published just in advance of the Kings-Warriors matchup:

There was a chance, at various points during the pre-draft process, that Mitchell was never going to make it to the Kings. The Warriors, drafting seventh, were very interested. Steve Kerr, among others, saw what he did at Baylor and was a vocal proponent, believing (like the Kings) that he could step in and immediately help as a perimeter pest, an area the current Warriors rotation is lacking.

The Warriors brought Mitchell to San Francisco for two workouts. The first was in an individual setting, separated from Moses Moody, Kai Jones and Jalen Johnson, three Klutch clients who worked out separately on the same day.

But the Warriors wanted to see Mitchell and some others in a more competitive environment. This was the group for the second workout: Mitchell, Moody, Chris Duarte, Trey Murphy III. That day, those in attendance said Mitchell’s defensive work against three bigger prospects made a strong impression, and it’s not like Kerr, who was coaching in the Olympics at the time, needed to be persuaded to pick him. By draft night, sources said, Mitchell was in the top 10 on the Warriors’ final draft board.

https://theathletic.com/2908093/2021/10/23/davion-mitchell-and-the-kings-prep-for-the-steph-curry-test-and-a-warriors-team-that-discussed-drafting-him/
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Post#495 » by Scoots1994 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:17 pm

and1GS wrote:He'll get chances, but I'd be surprised if they were 15+ mpg opportunities until he shows some progress (or if the matchup demands it).


I agree. I'll go further and say that even if he plays particularly well they will likely limit his minutes to in the mid 20s maximum.
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Post#496 » by Scoots1994 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:22 pm

Twinkie defense wrote:I think once Kuminga fell to #7 he was probably seen as a no-brainer pick by the Warriors brass, but interesting to read this article that published just in advance of the Kings-Warriors matchup:

There was a chance, at various points during the pre-draft process, that Mitchell was never going to make it to the Kings. The Warriors, drafting seventh, were very interested. Steve Kerr, among others, saw what he did at Baylor and was a vocal proponent, believing (like the Kings) that he could step in and immediately help as a perimeter pest, an area the current Warriors rotation is lacking.

The Warriors brought Mitchell to San Francisco for two workouts. The first was in an individual setting, separated from Moses Moody, Kai Jones and Jalen Johnson, three Klutch clients who worked out separately on the same day.

But the Warriors wanted to see Mitchell and some others in a more competitive environment. This was the group for the second workout: Mitchell, Moody, Chris Duarte, Trey Murphy III. That day, those in attendance said Mitchell’s defensive work against three bigger prospects made a strong impression, and it’s not like Kerr, who was coaching in the Olympics at the time, needed to be persuaded to pick him. By draft night, sources said, Mitchell was in the top 10 on the Warriors’ final draft board.

https://theathletic.com/2908093/2021/10/23/davion-mitchell-and-the-kings-prep-for-the-steph-curry-test-and-a-warriors-team-that-discussed-drafting-him/


This was pretty much the talk by many here as well. If Kuminga fell he was the pick ... if he didn't Mitchell was very much in the conversation.
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Post#497 » by KevinMcreynolds » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:38 pm

Kerr probably wanted Davion and Kispert, now he's taking it out on Moody
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Post#498 » by Impuniti » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:45 pm

How is he taking it out on Moody? Lee has arguably been the best off the bench player this season in the league so far. If he keeps that form up, it will be difficult for him to find minutes.
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Post#499 » by sonnyhill » Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:40 pm

Small sample size of only 4-games having been played; however, with the Warrior record being 4-0, why is it a bad thing that Moody is sitting on the bench?

Why rush any of the young players on the roster into the rotation, especially with the team playing well with its current 10-man rotation?

Also, an 82-game schedule pretty much ensures that injuries and fatigue cannot be avoided, which pretty much ensures that more players (the youngsters) will get time in the rotation.
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Post#500 » by GQ Hot Dog » Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:57 pm

The time the rookies and Wiseman spend learning in practice today will prepare them to play in games later this year when the vets will need time off due to injury or fatigue.
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