Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster – (20-Man Off-Season)

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https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/267477/Hornets-Trying-To-Trade-Gordon-Hayward-With-One-Draft-Pick

please talk me out of White, Theis, Nesmith for Hayward and #13 or #15

Smart/Pritchard
Brown/Hayward
Tatum/Hayward
Al/Hayward
Rob/Grant

still have TPE, TPMLE, and #13 or #15 to reduce the # of Haywards on the court at one time

plus you'd have SpiderMen meme of Hayward and Hauser at least on media day

do you like it or hate it?

Have to keep White imo unless there is some other really good replacement. Has to be Theis, Nesmith and a ton of spare parts, or they got another salary from somewhere.

We don't have the salary to do it without White. Who -- at his best -- seemed great at the role we wanted Hayward to play. And is younger, more durable, and significantly cheaper, so we may as well keep him. But I'm down on him after the way the Finals ended, and our roster still calls out for that Hayward or Harrison Barnes or whatever type to credibly spell Jaylen and Jayson.

Plus getting Al and Gordon back without Kemba or Kyrie would be fun, would have to update that TMNT meme to have two Splinters somehow:)

[Parliament10]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/267477/Hornets-Trying-To-Trade-Gordon-Hayward-With-One-Draft-Pick

please talk me out of White, Theis, Nesmith for Hayward and #13 or #15

Smart/Pritchard
Brown/Hayward
Tatum/Hayward
Al/Hayward
Rob/Grant

still have TPE, TPMLE, and #13 or #15 to reduce the # of Haywards on the court at one time

plus you'd have SpiderMen meme of Hayward and Hauser at least on media day

do you like it or hate it?

Have to keep White imo unless there is some other really good replacement. Has to be Theis, Nesmith and a ton of spare parts, or they got another salary from somewhere.

We don't have the salary to do it without White. Who -- at his best -- seemed great at the role we wanted Hayward to play. And is younger, more durable, and significantly cheaper, so we may as well keep him. But I'm down on him after the way the Finals ended, and our roster still calls out for that Hayward or Harrison Barnes or whatever type to credibly spell Jaylen and Jayson.

Plus getting Al and Gordon back without Kemba or Kyrie would be fun, would have to update that TMNT meme to have two Splinters somehow:)

Hayward didn't work either.
He's 32, now. -- Let's just move on.

[TA42]

Have to keep White imo unless there is some other really good replacement. Has to be Theis, Nesmith and a ton of spare parts, or they got another salary from somewhere.

We don't have the salary to do it without White. Who -- at his best -- seemed great at the role we wanted Hayward to play. And is younger, more durable, and significantly cheaper, so we may as well keep him. But I'm down on him after the way the Finals ended, and our roster still calls out for that Hayward or Harrison Barnes or whatever type to credibly spell Jaylen and Jayson.

Plus getting Al and Gordon back without Kemba or Kyrie would be fun, would have to update that TMNT meme to have two Splinters somehow:)

Hayward didn't work either.
He's 32, now. -- Let's just move on.

Also for whatever reason I feel like Hayward just wasn’t a fit chemistry-wise. Never really seemed to mesh with the team outside of the locker room. Whether it was because he wanted to spend all his time with family (can’t blame him) or playing PC games who knows.

Wasn’t there something about him not showing up to someone’s function or him having a function that no one showed up to? I could be wrong.

Just feel like we’ve washed most of that cursed era away and don’t necessarily want to go down that road again.

[Cricket23]

Charlotte is willing to give up a pick to clear salary, don't think they want White, Theis, etc. Would probably have to be Horford's expiring. I don't think that's a good idea.

[Larry_Russell]

Charlotte is willing to give up a pick to clear salary, don't think they want White, Theis, etc. Would probably have to be Horford's expiring. I don't think that's a good idea.

Oubre and 15 for TPE.


That is a no brainer for boston.

Long defender who can catch and shoot off the bench and a just outside lotto pick in the draft.


I would try and squueze them for washington instead or as well though.

TPE (Fournier) for Oubre and #15
TPE (Juancho) for Washington


Frees them up 18.4 million not counting the pick

[poopship]

Charlotte is willing to give up a pick to clear salary, don't think they want White, Theis, etc. Would probably have to be Horford's expiring. I don't think that's a good idea.

Oubre and 15 for TPE.


That is a no brainer for boston.

Long defender who can catch and shoot off the bench and a just outside lotto pick in the draft.


I would try and squueze them for washington instead or as well though.

TPE (Fournier) for Oubre and #15
TPE (Juancho) for Washington


Frees them up 18.4 million not counting the pick

Do you really expect VERY lop-sided trades in the Celtics favor or does it just tickle your imagination to get alot of good stuff for no cost? It's a "no brainer" because it's insane.

[Parliament10]

Charlotte is willing to give up a pick to clear salary, don't think they want White, Theis, etc. Would probably have to be Horford's expiring. I don't think that's a good idea.

Oubre and 15 for TPE.


That is a no brainer for boston.

Long defender who can catch and shoot off the bench and a just outside lotto pick in the draft.


I would try and squueze them for washington instead or as well though.

TPE (Fournier) for Oubre and #15
TPE (Juancho) for Washington


Frees them up 18.4 million not counting the pick

Do you really expect VERY lop-sided trades in the Celtics favor or does it just tickle your imagination to get alot of good stuff for no cost? It's a "no brainer" because it's insane.

"Insane" ?
Let's try not to be so Personal.

~ Parl

[poopship]

Oubre and 15 for TPE.


That is a no brainer for boston.

Long defender who can catch and shoot off the bench and a just outside lotto pick in the draft.


I would try and squueze them for washington instead or as well though.

TPE (Fournier) for Oubre and #15
TPE (Juancho) for Washington


Frees them up 18.4 million not counting the pick

Do you really expect VERY lop-sided trades in the Celtics favor or does it just tickle your imagination to get alot of good stuff for no cost? It's a "no brainer" because it's insane.

"Insane" ?
Let's try not to be so Personal.

~ Parl

The trade proposal is insane. I'm not trying to be personal.

[Larry_Russell]

Do you really expect VERY lop-sided trades in the Celtics favor or does it just tickle your imagination to get alot of good stuff for no cost? It's a "no brainer" because it's insane.

"Insane" ?
Let's try not to be so Personal.

~ Parl

The trade proposal is insane. I'm not trying to be personal.

What is insane about a team looking to SHED SALARY, and is looking to include a pick to do so, losing at a minimum 12.4 millin plus the pick (total around 15+ million) without having to take anything back.

And Washington, IDK what there thought are on him, but if they want to lose more, we can accomodate with the 2nd TPE that we have.

I think that is a very reasonable deal, at least the 1st one. Oubre isnt some high end level talent. HE is a 6th-8th man making 13 million a season.

[BostonCouchGM]

Do you really expect VERY lop-sided trades in the Celtics favor or does it just tickle your imagination to get alot of good stuff for no cost? It's a "no brainer" because it's insane.

"Insane" ?
Let's try not to be so Personal.

~ Parl

The trade proposal is insane. I'm not trying to be personal.

shouldn't have had to be explained

[Parliament10]

"Insane" ?
Let's try not to be so Personal.

~ Parl

The trade proposal is insane. I'm not trying to be personal.

shouldn't have had to be explained

Don't Backseat Mod.

~ Parl

[Parliament10]

Do you really expect VERY lop-sided trades in the Celtics favor or does it just tickle your imagination to get alot of good stuff for no cost? It's a "no brainer" because it's insane.

"Insane" ?
Let's try not to be so Personal.

~ Parl

The trade proposal is insane. I'm not trying to be personal.

Gotcha. My Mistake.

[BK_2020]

Tryna convince myself that Kyle Guy would be a good deep bench addition for the minimum so the Celtics can collect all the UVA guys in the league. Maybe get him on a 2 year non-guaranteed? He looks a tad bit more capable off the bounce than Pritchard, although Pritchard is probably the king of the empty gym three.

Watch on YouTube

[BK_2020]

Shot 42.5% on 600 threes in college, won an NCAA, his first G-League season played 37 games shooting 40% from the three on almost 10 attempts per game. Could be a Shane Larkin-type player.

Watch on YouTube

[Jammer]

Trade Derrick White & Grant Williams to Atlanta for John Collins.

Trade Daniel Theis & Aaron Nesmith to Minnesota for Minnesota's #40, #48 and #50 picks (this is salary clearing, Minnesota could use them, and the 3 picks are swapped to teams to replace future 2nd Round picks that the Celtics have already traded).

Sign Bruce Brown to Full Taxpayer MLE.

Push Hard to sign LaMarcus Aldridge as 3rd String Center for Vet Minimum of $2,866,959 which only counts as $1,811,516 to cap.

Offer Ricky Rubio Bi-Annual Exception of $3,951,000 for senior statesman status (which is $1,085,000 higher than vet minimum, showing serious nature of pursuit.

Trade Minnesota's #48 2nd Round Pick to Utah (who has no picks) for 2024 2nd Round Pick.

Trade Minnesota's #50 2nd Round Pick to Phoenix (who has no picks) for 2027 2nd Round Pick.

Trade Boston's #53 2nd Round Pick to Nets (who has no picks) for 2025 2nd Round Pick.

Lineup w/Salaries (going with 13 players at season's start to leave room for G-League callup + remaining #40 pick from Minny).

Center: Al Horford $26,500,000 / Rob Williams III $10,937,502 / LaMarcus Aldridge $1,811,516 (Cap #, despite $2,866,959 salary)

PF: John Collins $23,500,000 / Al Horford / Malik Fitts $1,752,538

SF: Jayson Tatum $30,351,780 / Bruce Brown $6,149,000 /Sam Hauser $1,563,618

SG: Jaylen Brown $28,741,071 / Bruce Brown / Nik Stauskas $1,811,516 (Cap #, even though salary is $2,193,920)

PG: Marcus Smart $17,207,142 / Payton Pritchard $2,239,200 / Ricky Rubio $3,951,000

Total is $156,515,883 for 13 players including $92,357 that they still owe to Demetrius Jackson. Leaves 2 spots for G-League call-up and the remaining 2nd Round Draft Pick (#40 from Minnesota) plus the Celts can still have two 2-Way players.

[bucknersrevenge]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/267477/Hornets-Trying-To-Trade-Gordon-Hayward-With-One-Draft-Pick

please talk me out of White, Theis, Nesmith for Hayward and #13 or #15

Smart/Pritchard
Brown/Hayward
Tatum/Hayward
Al/Hayward
Rob/Grant

still have TPE, TPMLE, and #13 or #15 to reduce the # of Haywards on the court at one time

plus you'd have SpiderMen meme of Hayward and Hauser at least on media day

do you like it or hate it?

There's a world where this scenario makes some sense. It accomplishes the goal of adding playmaking, shooting, experience, and an offensive hub when one of the Jay's is off the floor. He only has 2 more years left of his deal. Unlike the last time there's no Kemba to take away his ballhandling minutes. And it would be just one more deal of Danny's that Brad would be undoing and you know he loves that. And if you care to put 2 pieces of info together, the talk of the Celtics liking that Eason kid from LSU; he'd be available at the 15 pick I think. You could find a vet PG to come off the bench for the taxpayer MLE and you still have the TPEs to add another big if you so please.

Seriously...weirder things have happened. Huge gamble though.

And I mean HUGE.

[poopship]

"Insane" ?
Let's try not to be so Personal.

~ Parl

The trade proposal is insane. I'm not trying to be personal.

What is insane about a team looking to SHED SALARY, and is looking to include a pick to do so, losing at a minimum 12.4 millin plus the pick (total around 15+ million) without having to take anything back.

And Washington, IDK what there thought are on him, but if they want to lose more, we can accomodate with the 2nd TPE that we have.

I think that is a very reasonable deal, at least the 1st one. Oubre isnt some high end level talent. HE is a 6th-8th man making 13 million a season.

Haywards contract is the big negative value contract that CHA has, which is what you would expect a team to attach a good pick like #15 to.
CHA is not desperate to move right now either. They can re-sign Miles Bridges without clearing space so this is about the luxury tax and they have all the time in the world to fix that.

[exculpatory]

Still pissed as hell we blew an ultra golden shot at #18.

This guy is optimistic.
https://apple.news/A59Ur_-V1QiaZsvpmdrm6tQ

Not sure how I feel.
Taking a basketball break.

[exculpatory]

Oubre isnt some high end level talent. HE is a 6th-8th man making 13 million a season.

What a world we live in.

Someone like Beal gonna make 50 million **** dollars a year.
And a #6-8 is willingly paid ONLY 13 million **** dollars a year. LOL.

I have made & well deserved very very good money during my career as a dedicated & hardworking physician.

The truly indescribable dollars described above for gifted athletes (and movie stars & talented singers) are light years beyond unfathomable & mind blowing.

Our society is SO SO SO SO SO **** up.

[Parliament10]

We can have up to 20-Men on the Off-Season Roster. Let's see who we get?

This really should be increased, to compensate for the Two-Ways.
Should be 5 x Two-Ways, and a 25-Man Off-/Pre-Season Roster.