Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 5

[AbC?]

I wonder what are the odds of Scottie getting traded in the off season.

Siakam/Yakub/Scottie are a terrible fit long term wise imo.

Hopefully he's traded. His value will only diminish as he loses the potential label and gets closer to extension time.

I don't see any trade that makes sense at this time though. We'll see what disgruntled star becomes available this summer. I'd love to get Jalen Williams for him but I legit think OKC would decline lmao.

[HumbleRen]

I wonder what are the odds of Scottie getting traded in the off season.

Siakam/Yakub/Scottie are a terrible fit long term wise imo.

Hopefully he's traded. His value will only diminish as he loses the potential label and gets closer to extension time.

I don't see any trade that makes sense at this time though. We'll see what disgruntled star becomes available this summer. I'd love to get Jalen Williams for him but I legit think OKC would decline lmao.

I just hope they do something.

Siakam and Scottie are a yucky pairing, pick one and trade the other.

[Thaddy]

I wonder what are the odds of Scottie getting traded in the off season.

Siakam/Yakub/Scottie are a terrible fit long term wise imo.

Hopefully he's traded. His value will only diminish as he loses the potential label and gets closer to extension time.

I don't see any trade that makes sense at this time though. We'll see what disgruntled star becomes available this summer. I'd love to get Jalen Williams for him but I legit think OKC would decline lmao.

I just hope they do something.

Siakam and Scottie are a yucky pairing, pick one and trade the other.

We need to consider trading Siakam and doing a S&T with Fred. Getting younger pieces and being at this level is a lot more acceptable than having guys in their late 20s grinding out games to get us somewhere.

[WaltFrazier]

Scottie held Lavine/Demar to a combined 3/10 when he defended them.

Not so good vs Kuzma tonight

[DelAbbot]

Watch on YouTube

[Raps in 4]

I wonder what are the odds of Scottie getting traded in the off season.

Siakam/Yakub/Scottie are a terrible fit long term wise imo.

Hopefully he's traded. His value will only diminish as he loses the potential label and gets closer to extension time.

I don't see any trade that makes sense at this time though. We'll see what disgruntled star becomes available this summer. I'd love to get Jalen Williams for him but I legit think OKC would decline lmao.

Hopefully he isn't. Unless we feel we can trade him for a top-10 player (like Luka or even SGA), you trade Siakam, let Fred walk, and you rebuild. The likelihood of a 1A championship calibre player becoming available is extremely small.

[TorontoBarneys]

He deserves to go to a better franchise that can actually maximize his talents.

[OakleyDokely]

Scottie held Lavine/Demar to a combined 3/10 when he defended them.

Not so good vs Kuzma tonight

Kuz shot 0-5 when defended by Barnes.

Kuz got his 30, but he only went 10-24. He did most of his damage against bench lineups - 3/4 vs Precious, 3/5 vs Boucher.

[WaltFrazier]

Scottie held Lavine/Demar to a combined 3/10 when he defended them.

Not so good vs Kuzma tonight

Kuz shot 0-5 when defended by Barnes.

Kuz got his 30, but he only went 10-24. He did most of his damage against bench lineups - 3/4 vs Precious, 3/5 vs Boucher.

Huh? I'm sure he blew by Barnes a few times, not sure how "defended by" is measured.

[HumbleRen]

Not so good vs Kuzma tonight

Kuz shot 0-5 when defended by Barnes.

Kuz got his 30, but he only went 10-24. He did most of his damage against bench lineups - 3/4 vs Precious, 3/5 vs Boucher.

Huh? I'm sure he blew by Barnes a few times, not sure how "defended by" is measured.

He did most of his damage in the first half. Went 6/6 from the field when Siakam was the primary defender guarding him at one point.

Shot worse than 30% from the field in the 2nd half when Scottie switched to him.

Scottie didn’t do a good job of containing Kuzma’s dribble penetration though, Kuzma wasn’t making his shots against Scottie but he got to the FT line.

[WaltFrazier]

Kuz shot 0-5 when defended by Barnes.

Kuz got his 30, but he only went 10-24. He did most of his damage against bench lineups - 3/4 vs Precious, 3/5 vs Boucher.

Huh? I'm sure he blew by Barnes a few times, not sure how "defended by" is measured.

He did most of his damage in the first half. Went 6/6 from the field when Siakam was the primary defender guarding him at one point.

Shot worse than 30% from the field in the 2nd half when Scottie switched to him.

Scottie didn’t do a good job of containing Kuzma’s dribble penetration though, Kuzma wasn’t making his shots against Scottie but he got to the FT line.

Ok makes sense. Alvin said early in the game OG should be put on Kuzma since he was so on fire. But then maybe Beal would go off. Pascal and Scottie both can be bad on defensive containment.

When we play Boston OG can only stop one of Tatum Brown, but I didn't think Kuzma and Beal would present the same conundrum

[HumbleRen]

Huh? I'm sure he blew by Barnes a few times, not sure how "defended by" is measured.

He did most of his damage in the first half. Went 6/6 from the field when Siakam was the primary defender guarding him at one point.

Shot worse than 30% from the field in the 2nd half when Scottie switched to him.

Scottie didn’t do a good job of containing Kuzma’s dribble penetration though, Kuzma wasn’t making his shots against Scottie but he got to the FT line.

Ok makes sense. Alvin said early in the game OG should be put on Kuzma since he was so on fire. But then maybe Beal would go off. Pascal and Scottie both can be bad on defensive containment.

When we play Boston OG can only stop one of Tatum Brown, but I didn't think Kuzma and Beal would present the same conundrum

I gave up on trying to diagnose our defensive issues.

Nurse’s system is utterly broken lol.

[WaltFrazier]

He did most of his damage in the first half. Went 6/6 from the field when Siakam was the primary defender guarding him at one point.

Shot worse than 30% from the field in the 2nd half when Scottie switched to him.

Scottie didn’t do a good job of containing Kuzma’s dribble penetration though, Kuzma wasn’t making his shots against Scottie but he got to the FT line.

Ok makes sense. Alvin said early in the game OG should be put on Kuzma since he was so on fire. But then maybe Beal would go off. Pascal and Scottie both can be bad on defensive containment.

When we play Boston OG can only stop one of Tatum Brown, but I didn't think Kuzma and Beal would present the same conundrum

I gave up on trying to diagnose our defensive issues.

Nurse’s system is utterly broken lol.

Yeah it's the system I agree. But of the starters OG can really guard at elite level, Jak is very good, and the other three have good moments but a lot of bad stretches. Especially on the perimeter.

[OakleyDokely]

Kuz shot 0-5 when defended by Barnes.

Kuz got his 30, but he only went 10-24. He did most of his damage against bench lineups - 3/4 vs Precious, 3/5 vs Boucher.

Huh? I'm sure he blew by Barnes a few times, not sure how "defended by" is measured.

He did most of his damage in the first half. Went 6/6 from the field when Siakam was the primary defender guarding him at one point.

Shot worse than 30% from the field in the 2nd half when Scottie switched to him.

Scottie didn’t do a good job of containing Kuzma’s dribble penetration though, Kuzma wasn’t making his shots against Scottie but he got to the FT line.

Kuz had a solid game, but he didn't have great efficiency overall (10-24 from the field, 54 TS%). Overall, he was defended fine. Beal was held in check.

The bigger issue was Gafford/Porzingis went a combined 16/22 for 43 points. This was a game Poeltl needed to play a very big role, yet he only ended up with 31 minutes, most of which came in the 2nd half when the game was out of reach.

[Prestige]

Barnes isn’t good enough to lead a team, but he also isn’t getting the touches and focus necessary to expand his game and gain experience. The franchise’s position seems to be that he needs to show more in his current role in order to slowly expand his touches and responsibilities, in essence trying to simultaneously develop him and ‘win’.

Mobley is in a similar (or worse position as his team is far better) and it remains to be seen if this will delay their development.

[Syd-TK3]

Barnes has Lowry impact in his future but a bit better because of his overall size advantages.
He will still need that go to scorer beside him.

[will]

Scottish, baybeeeeee!

[Los_29]

The jumper not improving is a concern. If Scottie doesn't improve on that then it's hard to see how he can have a high ceiling. He's still going to be a great player in this league but more of a 3rd/4th option type player than a 1st/2nd type player that we all are hoping for.

Luckily there is still so much time with him. Still just 21 years old.

[hype_2004]

The jumper not improving is a concern. If Scottie doesn't improve on that then it's hard to see how he can have a high ceiling. He's still going to be a great player in this league but more of a 3rd/4th option type player than a 1st/2nd type player that we all are hoping for.

Luckily there is still so much time with him. Still just 21 years old.

His absolute low end is a SF version of Rasheed Wallace with vision, someone that coast but is an absolute Superstar in crunch time. He has the uncanny ability to elevate his game when he's angry and motivated, but like Rasheed it's comes and it goes.

[DelAbbot]

Scottie's body language was terrible even in the 1st Q. Doesn't run back after getting clean blocked by Porzingis. I have defended him a lot but that's not how to be a professional young player or not. Really disappointed with his mindset and inconsistency.