R2G3 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 5 7:30pm ET ESPN

76ciology · Post #481 » by **76ciology** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:30 am

We ended the game shooting better than the Celts in 3s and having more bench pts.

Negrodamus · Post #482 » by **Negrodamus** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:30 am

Embiid on that David Robinson career path with this MVP. No longer a Patrick Ewing.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #483 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:30 am

I said at the start of the series that with or without Embiid, it was going to have to be James Harden that steps up. He was Hall of Fame James in game one and that's been IT. I really hope he comes out in game 4 and redeems himself. We need 4 good games from James Harden. That's what we've been saying. When he has good games, we win. It's that simple.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #484 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:31 am

Negrodamus wrote:Embiid on that David Robinson career path with this MVP. No longer a Patrick Ewing.

Good, we just need to get him a Tim Duncan. I certainly remember how the Spurs got Tim Duncan.

mjkvol · Post #485 » by **mjkvol** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:31 am

Just painful to watch, and not helped by the brutal ESPN crew doing the game. Embiid was a warrior, but Harden was somewhere else mentally, Tobias was back to his usual invisible playoff form after round one, Maxey just seems tentative, and Rivers is f***king clueless. The worst part IMO was being beaten to every loose ball, and the amount of offensive rebounds the Celtics were allowed to get. I don't think the Celtics are a great team, but they are better than this Sixers group.

This team is in such dire need of a new and fresh direction, regardless if Harden stays or goes. It's remarkable how often they look stale and predictable, and make the same mistakes. If they lose this series and Rivers is retained, I'll actually be a bit surprised at this point, as it shows that the leadership here is not serious about winning a championship.

mksp · Post #486 » by **mksp** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:32 am

Just don't think we'll ever win anything with Josh Harris owning the team.

Eagles are really fortunate to be stewarded by Lurie all these years.

DCasey91 · Post #487 » by **DCasey91** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:32 am

Murray_17 wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:
You need to rewatch it. Brown gave Harden a bath on the defensive end, he was shook to even take a shot. Don’t think Harden made a shot when Brown was on him, let alone the turnover creation caused.

Harden passed on shots even after blowing out by his defender dude and the paint was packed because Boston was sagging of PJ

"he gave Harden a bath"

The bias is real, watch the game again if you don’t believe me. Every step back, midrange, 1v1 generally play situation Brown destroyed him, his length and athleticism was too superior.

76ciology · Post #488 » by **76ciology** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:32 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:Embiid on that David Robinson career path with this MVP. No longer a Patrick Ewing.

Good, we just need to get him a Tim Duncan. I certainly remember how the Spurs got Tim Duncan.

Yup. We got our picks in the next 2 seasons.

ankle420breaker · Post #489 » by **ankle420breaker** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:33 am

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ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #490 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:33 am

76ciology wrote:We ended the game shooting better than the Celts in 3s and having more bench pts.

Yeah, our bench was solid. This came down to James Harden having a putrid game and Tyrese Maxey struggling as usual against a great defensive team. Second chances points definitely went in the favor of Boston. We had costly turnovers at crucial times. James Harden missed an open three in the third that would have put us up on them and certainly changed the momentum in our favor. It was a tough loss. I thought we fought hard, we just got beat at the wrong things at the wrong moments.

Bum Adebayo · Post #491 » by **Bum Adebayo** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:34 am

Mik317 wrote:
Bum Adebayo wrote:Let's hear ideas about how to improve this roster without blowing it up.

Blowing it up doesn’t improve it either numb it’s

We don’t have picks so we can’t tank and trading Biid for picks like I assume you think we should do would make us a lot worse while owing picks

It’s not feasible until we own our own picks again

And even then does mystery player give you a better chance than still building around a mvp?
I don’t think so personally

We blew it up before because we actually made a big trade for Bynum and wasn’t no longer a playoff team and had no player to build around and picks to use

I don’t know what the **** we do… I’d let Harden walk or maybe see if that sign and trade rumor is real and wait until we get off Tobias contract for cap space for one last ride… by then we’d have picks and space if it doesn’t. Constantly looking for quick fixes or drastic measures is exactly why we are in this situation imo. The Celtics have made moves but their core players have been the same forever….it’s worth a look if nothing else

People are worried about Biids longevity but that doesn’t mean you have to make a decision asap either imo. If he falls off a cliff in a few years… oh well. Don’t think that trading him changes the calculus at the moment…. The end result will still be the same in that scenario imo so I can still hope for a flukey Dirk run over hoping this franchise can find another franchise player again

But then again trading Biid would allow me to not give a **** about this team again which would be great for my mental health lol

Celts core players are all good, that's why it made sense. Our core players outside of Embiid are mediocre, Melton is a keeper but Harden, Maxey and Harris are supposed to be core players and they just suck when defense is also added into the mix.

76ciology · Post #492 » by **76ciology** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:35 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
76ciology wrote:We ended the game shooting better than the Celts in 3s and having more bench pts.

Yeah, our bench was solid. This came down to James Harden having a putrid game and Tyrese Maxey struggling as usual against a great defensive team. Second chances points definitely went in the favor of Boston. We had costly turnovers at crucial times. James Harden missed an open three in the third that would have put us up on them and certainly changed the momentum in our favor. It was a tough loss. I thought we fought hard, we just got beat at the wrong things at the wrong moments.

Its clearly on Maxey and Harden’s offense.

We shot 37FG%, and if Maxey and Harden were just normal, we would have won this most times with the FT advantage.

NYSixersFan · Post #493 » by **NYSixersFan** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:36 am

mksp wrote:Just don't think we'll ever win anything with Josh Harris owning the team.

Eagles are really fortunate to be stewarded by Lurie all these years.

I'm about to have Harris own two of my teams. Lucky me.

Murray_17 · Post #494 » by **Murray_17** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:39 am

DCasey91 wrote:
The bias is real, watch the game again if you don’t believe me. Every step back, midrange, 1v1 generally play situation Brown destroyed him, his length and athleticism was too superior.

My bias?

Every post you have in this thread is about how great Brown is and how he's the best player on the series. Relax a bit.

You don't need to invent stuff to feel better about your take, Harden didn't make shots today point blank and he was guarded by a lot of guys, the Celtics switch dude. Brown was doubling Embiid on the fourth quarter.

Like, i just don't even know why go to battle so much for a stupid take like " i'm gonna defend Jaylen Brown honor" on a Sixers forum

Bum Adebayo · Post #495 » by **Bum Adebayo** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:39 am

Playoffs is where we see how good players are, it's much easier to score in RS, defense is toned down a lot as season is very long and players need to pace themselves, and against a great defensive team, Harden and Maxey get exposed, this is who they are, cut bait unless we can keep Maxey on the cheap (won't happen), dude is a 6th man period.

the_process · Post #496 » by **the_process** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:39 am

Disappointing but not at all surprising.

“Good news” is Glenn cannot use Jo’s injury as an excuse now.

76ciology · Post #497 » by **76ciology** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:40 am

I thought Doc adjusted.

Remember when Celts had a barrage of 3s? We played a very slow pace and make it a grind it out game. Called timeouts. Or else they would have blow us out as early as in the first half. We also put McDaniels and Melton to disrupt the passing lanes. We were able to come back and made a good counter with that

Most of the problem were those TOs by Harden and a high volume of miss shots by Harden and Maxey.

We ended up shooting better on 3s and even made it up by getting higher FTMs. It negates all the extra points by the Celts.

Melton and Niang also played well. On both ends.

But in the end, you’re playing handicap with Maxey and Harden if they are shooting this poorly and with what they can provide on defense. Instead of being OP on offense because of their scoring talent, you suddenly look short on defense and is a liability on offense.

The adjustment maybe was to play more House Jr. or Milton? But come on, that is hell of a load for their talent level. You need one of Maxey or Harden to get atleast 20 ppg on near 57-60TS%

Tobias also was out of rhythm being in foul trouble. And he made some mistakes down the stretch but think about it.. even if he played those possessions well on defense, that wont carry the liability of Harden and Maxey is giving you.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #498 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:40 am

I've also said that this series should determine whether or not we re-up with James Harden. After game one I was all aboard the idea, but if we get smoked 4-1 in this series with him playing like a shell of his former self, then we're going to have to explore our options with him. If there's a possible S&T scenario out there involving him, then we probably need to do it in order to salvage what we can.
He's not giving us what we need from someone that wants that kind of money. James Harden had one of the greatest offensive runs a player has ever had during his Houston tenure, but he's declined so bad over the last two years. I go back and forth on him and it's maddening. It'd be a shame to see him leave, but we also can't be tied to him for another five years at max dollars. It just can't happen. This franchise will be in shambles for the next ten years if we do that.

DCasey91 · Post #499 » by **DCasey91** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:41 am

76ciology wrote:We ended the game shooting better than the Celts in 3s and having more bench pts.

Dude it’s the starting unit. That’s on Doc, he tried Melton but then your are vertically challenged with Harden and Maxey. Those 3 should never be on the court together against the Celtics ffs.

I wonder what the point differential in quarters 2/3 and these last 2 games and the next 2.

Iverson Armband · Post #500 » by **Iverson Armband** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:41 am

Murray_17 wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:How is this loss Docs fault lol

Are you kidding me? there was no adjustment from game 2 to game 3.

Hell there was no adjustment from the first half of this game to the second half.

Obviously, a lot of the loss is on Harden literally doing a Ben Simmons impression, but Doc also can adjust from that in some way, he's the **** coach for god sake

What adjustment? Let’s hear it, coach.

Harden & Maxey in particular sucked ass. Period. We’re short and slow, they’re tall and fast. There’s no coaching around that.