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Post#481 » by IceColdCubano » Sat Nov 25, 2023 12:04 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Free Dragic

Id Love to get Dragic back on the team, I think he would fit in with the group and be a great vet mentor. Unfortunately anything outside of a two contract the would go over the second Apron, Dragics minimum because of the years played, would tilt over the second Apron immediately.
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Post#482 » by Beenie » Sat Nov 25, 2023 12:08 am

Wonder what Dipo’s health status is and if he’d be an option
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Post#483 » by gom » Sat Nov 25, 2023 12:26 am

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Free Dragic

Id Love to get Dragic back on the team, I think he would fit in with the group and be a great vet mentor. Unfortunately anything outside of a two contract the would go over the second Apron, Dragics minimum because of the years played, would tilt over the second Apron immediately.


Incorrect.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q22 wrote:When a player has been in the NBA for three or more seasons, and is playing under a one-year, 10-day or Rest-of-Season contract at the minimum salary, the league reimburses the team for part of his salary -- any amount above the minimum salary for a two-year veteran. For example, the minimum salary for a two-year veteran in 2017-18 is $1,471,382, so for a ten-year veteran, with a minimum salary of $2,328,652, the league would reimburse the team $857,270. Only the two-year minimum salary is included in the team salary, not the player's full salary. They do this so teams won't shy away from signing older veterans simply because they are more expensive than younger veterans.
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Post#484 » by IceColdCubano » Sat Nov 25, 2023 12:36 am

gom wrote:
IceColdCubano wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Free Dragic

Id Love to get Dragic back on the team, I think he would fit in with the group and be a great vet mentor. Unfortunately anything outside of a two contract the would go over the second Apron, Dragics minimum because of the years played, would tilt over the second Apron immediately.


Incorrect.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q22 wrote:When a player has been in the NBA for three or more seasons, and is playing under a one-year, 10-day or Rest-of-Season contract at the minimum salary, the league reimburses the team for part of his salary -- any amount above the minimum salary for a two-year veteran. For example, the minimum salary for a two-year veteran in 2017-18 is $1,471,382, so for a ten-year veteran, with a minimum salary of $2,328,652, the league would reimburse the team $857,270. Only the two-year minimum salary is included in the team salary, not the player's full salary. They do this so teams won't shy away from signing older veterans simply because they are more expensive than younger veterans.


Oh that's good to know, it still puts us over the 2nd Apron even if its the league minimum dollar that counts. I think the math only works with a 2 way contract is what I heard from Ira Winderman.
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Post#485 » by MorbidHEAT » Sat Nov 25, 2023 12:51 am

IceColdCubano wrote:
gom wrote:
IceColdCubano wrote:Id Love to get Dragic back on the team, I think he would fit in with the group and be a great vet mentor. Unfortunately anything outside of a two contract the would go over the second Apron, Dragics minimum because of the years played, would tilt over the second Apron immediately.


Incorrect.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q22 wrote:When a player has been in the NBA for three or more seasons, and is playing under a one-year, 10-day or Rest-of-Season contract at the minimum salary, the league reimburses the team for part of his salary -- any amount above the minimum salary for a two-year veteran. For example, the minimum salary for a two-year veteran in 2017-18 is $1,471,382, so for a ten-year veteran, with a minimum salary of $2,328,652, the league would reimburse the team $857,270. Only the two-year minimum salary is included in the team salary, not the player's full salary. They do this so teams won't shy away from signing older veterans simply because they are more expensive than younger veterans.


Oh that's good to know, it still puts us over the 2nd Apron even if its the league minimum dollar that counts. I think the math only works with a 2 way contract is what I heard from Ira Winderman.


Isn’t Dru Smith under a normal contract? Can’t they use insurance for his contract since it’s still so early in the season?
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Post#486 » by DBurks2818 » Sat Nov 25, 2023 12:58 am

MorbidHEAT wrote:
IceColdCubano wrote:
gom wrote:
Incorrect.



Oh that's good to know, it still puts us over the 2nd Apron even if its the league minimum dollar that counts. I think the math only works with a 2 way contract is what I heard from Ira Winderman.


Isn’t Dru Smith under a normal contract? Can’t they use insurance for his contract since it’s still so early in the season?


That’s what I thought. The Disabled Player Exception would be a possibility right gom?
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Post#487 » by al bondiga » Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:36 am

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al bondiga wrote:0 trades... I agree... Furthermore, I applaud the Notion unless something very good fell into Our lap... For example, Annoyed young All Star...Tatum To play in Miami along With Bam So finally they get to win a championship??


If Boston traded Tatum to Miami their fans would literally riot.

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Post#488 » by gom » Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:54 am

IceColdCubano wrote:
gom wrote:
IceColdCubano wrote:Id Love to get Dragic back on the team, I think he would fit in with the group and be a great vet mentor. Unfortunately anything outside of a two contract the would go over the second Apron, Dragics minimum because of the years played, would tilt over the second Apron immediately.


Incorrect.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q22 wrote:When a player has been in the NBA for three or more seasons, and is playing under a one-year, 10-day or Rest-of-Season contract at the minimum salary, the league reimburses the team for part of his salary -- any amount above the minimum salary for a two-year veteran. For example, the minimum salary for a two-year veteran in 2017-18 is $1,471,382, so for a ten-year veteran, with a minimum salary of $2,328,652, the league would reimburse the team $857,270. Only the two-year minimum salary is included in the team salary, not the player's full salary. They do this so teams won't shy away from signing older veterans simply because they are more expensive than younger veterans.


Oh that's good to know, it still puts us over the 2nd Apron even if its the league minimum dollar that counts. I think the math only works with a 2 way contract is what I heard from Ira Winderman.


No. Sorry. It is the sum of payment not the nominal salary. Miami can sign a player for minimum if they wait a couple weeks after waiving Dru Smith.
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Post#489 » by gom » Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:55 am

DBurks2818 wrote:
MorbidHEAT wrote:
IceColdCubano wrote:
Oh that's good to know, it still puts us over the 2nd Apron even if its the league minimum dollar that counts. I think the math only works with a 2 way contract is what I heard from Ira Winderman.


Isn’t Dru Smith under a normal contract? Can’t they use insurance for his contract since it’s still so early in the season?


That’s what I thought. The Disabled Player Exception would be a possibility right gom?


No. Disabled Player Exception counts against cap and luxury tax.
Does a DPE count against the salary cap and luxury tax?

Yes, when used to acquire a player, whatever portion of a DPE is used will count against both the salary cap and the luxury tax.

In addition, if a team is hard capped at the tax apron, they cannot exceed the apron via use of a DPE. A hard-capped team is still required to have a team salary that is no higher than that of the tax apron.

https://www.spotrac.com/spots/what-is-the-nba-disabled-player-exception-1670/
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Post#490 » by MorbidHEAT » Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:09 am

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If this is true, then homeboy tweeted himself straight into an eventual prison sentence. What a piece of siht.

PS…I meant to put this in the around the nba thread.
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Post#491 » by Wiltside » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:04 am

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Post#495 » by eddieheatfan » Sat Nov 25, 2023 12:52 pm

MorbidHEAT wrote:
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If this is true, then homeboy tweeted himself straight into an eventual prison sentence. What a piece of siht.

PS…I meant to put this in the around the nba thread.
that girl is not that innocent either, she knew what she was doing by that tweet.

i agree though, dude is about to get arrested for his idiocy
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Post#496 » by AirP. » Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:26 pm

Beenie wrote:Wonder what Dipo’s health status is and if he’d be an option

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Post#497 » by Big Dee Chi-Born » Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:55 pm

Now I don’t know our cap situation nor this kid’s off court character. But he’s free and has everything we need from an offensive guard standpoint. I saw this suggestion on BR and his highlights checkout nice! His form is decent, his handle is decent and he attacks the rim with athleticism. [youtube] https://youtu.be/OE3bT6piT30?si=ejTV8YB538xkpsDg[/youtube]
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Post#498 » by KingDavid » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:59 pm

Big Dee Chi-Born wrote:Now I don’t know our cap situation nor this kid’s off court character. But he’s free and has everything we need from an offensive guard standpoint. I saw this suggestion on BR and his highlights checkout nice! His form is decent, his handle is decent and he attacks the rim with athleticism. [youtube] https://youtu.be/OE3bT6piT30?si=ejTV8YB538xkpsDg[/youtube]

Terence Davis? He's not under contract? We don't currently have any cap room. I think any minimum contract will put us over the hard apron.
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Post#500 » by AirP. » Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:08 pm

I had forgotten another aspect of the in-season tourney... running up the score matters or basically playing hard until the end of an early season game matters which could lead to more injuries because point differential matters in some of the regular season games depending if they're part of the in-season tourney. Can't wait for the blowback when a star is seriously injured because they were still in a game with 2 minutes left up by 20 in a win blow out because of the point differential aspect of this in-season tourney.

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