2023 New York Yankees Thread

[knicks94]

There is gonna be a labor stoppage. Mark my words.

I'm not even mad at the Dodgers. They have the tools, talent and the will to win.

I can't help but notice that every team that Magic Johnson owns a stake in is focused on winning at any costs in both MLB and NFL.

Magic Johnson was the reason why the Knicks suffered under Isiah Thomas.

Wait really??

Story time?

I believe the Knicks originally wanted to hire Magic to be president of basketball operations, and he recommended Zeke.

[blue and orange]

New York Yankees owner Hal Steinbrenner acknowledged that a large portion of MLB owners are having a hard time keeping up with the spending of the Los Angeles Dodgers.

"It's difficult for most of us owners to be able to do the kind of things that they're doing," Steinbrenner told YES Network's Meredith Marakovits on Tuesday. "We'll see if it pays off. They still have to have a season relatively injury free for it to work out for them, and it's a long season, as you know, and once you get to the postseason, anything can happen. We've seen that time and time again."

https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/3203236

-Makes the most money in the sport.

-Cries poverty

Gotta notice how he's trying to get himself lumped into "us owners" cause he'd be lying if he said the Yankees couldn't do what the Dodgers were doing. It's such a loser statement. He's talking about how the Dodgers need to be injury free and how he'll rely on luck in the postseason for one damn chip, whereas the Dodgers are talking about winning multiple rings.

I feel like Yankees fans aren't asking too much when we say we don't want to rely on the corpse of DJ at 3B.

I'm so happy Hal is getting exposed because there was too much slurping in this thread about him a while back.

Ya the Dodgers already beat us in 5 games with an injured roster not to mention Ohtani and Freeman were playing injured. Of course anything can happen it's all the more reason to say screw the luxury tax and spend the money on the best players. With this logic by Hal it's more possible to get jumped in the AL, hey anything can happen.

Yankees have made good moves this offseason but as always the case it's the moves that they don't make that has cost them it cost them a World Series last year. Yankees could've signed Harper and Freeman who wanted to be Yankees. Dodgers have made bad signings too but they still make moves to go after the best players and don't screw over they players and fans.

[blue and orange]

Part of what made the Yankees the Yankees is they would always go above and beyond with no excuses it's not just about winning championships.

[KnicksGadfly]

https://www.pinstripealley.com/2025/1/30/24353151/yankees-mlb-offseason-reduce-payroll-world-series-marcus-stroman-trade-rumors-infield-bullpen-soto

The Bombers led all of baseball with $720 million in revenue in 2023, almost $100 million more than the second place Dodgers. However, the Yankees are only 12th in the league when it comes to the percentage of revenue invested in payroll at 52 percent — well below the league-leading Dodgers and their 67 percent payroll-to-revenue fraction. This means the Yankees have a roughly 25 percent spending disadvantage relative to their cross-country foes.

[jvsimonetti0514]

I’m usually not an anti Hal guy and pretty happy how their plan b turned out but those comments crying poor is really embarrassing and make me mad.

[MrDollarBills]

https://www.pinstripealley.com/2025/1/30/24353151/yankees-mlb-offseason-reduce-payroll-world-series-marcus-stroman-trade-rumors-infield-bullpen-soto

The Bombers led all of baseball with $720 million in revenue in 2023, almost $100 million more than the second place Dodgers. However, the Yankees are only 12th in the league when it comes to the percentage of revenue invested in payroll at 52 percent — well below the league-leading Dodgers and their 67 percent payroll-to-revenue fraction. This means the Yankees have a roughly 25 percent spending disadvantage relative to their cross-country foes.

What is the point of fans buying tickets, food, booze, and merchandise if this is how the money is being used?

Hal is a piece of sh*t. Yankee fans don't support the team so that this guy and his cronies can skim off top

Sell the team.

[knicks94]

I am an anti Hal guy and very disappointed by the fact that they had no viable plan b.

[knicks94]

Isn't there a metric that measures positive outcomes per dollar spent or something like that? I would bet the Yankees are in the bottom third of MLB teams in value received per payroll dollar.

[KnicksGadfly]

I’m usually not an anti Hal guy and pretty happy how their plan b turned out but those comments crying poor is really embarrassing and make me mad.

I've been pretty anti-Hal since he hoodwinked us from the austerity era. I feel like he really exposed himself then - there was an implicit agreement made back then with Yankees fans. Basically, the Yankees were going to go cheap for a while, but we were going to see them flex their muscles when the studs came to market. It didn't happen. Guys like Harper fell by the wayside. The only difference is that this time, Hal is crying poor, and back then, Cashman was pretending we didn't have room for Harper in our outfields. Joke's on them - we had Verdugo and Rizzo last year and their backup option that they signed to a long contract became an albatross: Aaron Hicks.

I think the plan B is just incomplete. We give **** to players who don't run out ground balls and hustle; this same standard needs to be applied to the FO and especially the owner. This is the equivalent of a talented player loafing, and a strong argument can be made that if the owner and FO had "hustled" and given their all last season, we'd be the ones with a World Series title.

I feel sick at what might happen next off-season. We as fans have hopes for Tucker, Vlad, and Murakami but none of this is promised, and I know the FO would rather not sign them and we know the FO really does not want to win that much.

[Spree2Houston]

https://www.pinstripealley.com/2025/1/30/24353151/yankees-mlb-offseason-reduce-payroll-world-series-marcus-stroman-trade-rumors-infield-bullpen-soto

The Bombers led all of baseball with $720 million in revenue in 2023, almost $100 million more than the second place Dodgers. However, the Yankees are only 12th in the league when it comes to the percentage of revenue invested in payroll at 52 percent — well below the league-leading Dodgers and their 67 percent payroll-to-revenue fraction. This means the Yankees have a roughly 25 percent spending disadvantage relative to their cross-country foes.

Yup Soto left because of ownership. We can outbid anyone, but Hal chooses to operate like we’re the 90s Montreal Expos

[jvsimonetti0514]

I’m usually not an anti Hal guy and pretty happy how their plan b turned out but those comments crying poor is really embarrassing and make me mad.

I've been pretty anti-Hal since he hoodwinked us from the austerity era. I feel like he really exposed himself then - there was an implicit agreement made back then with Yankees fans. Basically, the Yankees were going to go cheap for a while, but we were going to see them flex their muscles when the studs came to market. It didn't happen. Guys like Harper fell by the wayside. The only difference is that this time, Hal is crying poor, and back then, Cashman was pretending we didn't have room for Harper in our outfields. Joke's on them - we had Verdugo and Rizzo last year and their backup option that they signed to a long contract became an albatross: Aaron Hicks.

I think the plan B is just incomplete. We give **** to players who don't run out ground balls and hustle; this same standard needs to be applied to the FO and especially the owner. This is the equivalent of a talented player loafing, and a strong argument can be made that if the owner and FO had "hustled" and given their all last season, we'd be the ones with a World Series title.

I feel sick at what might happen next off-season. We as fans have hopes for Tucker, Vlad, and Murakami but none of this is promised, and I know the FO would rather not sign them and we know the FO really does not want to win that much.

I pretty much agree with everything you said. Hal crying poor is really rubbing me the wrong way. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to try to avoid the luxury tax but don’t act like you can’t spend if you want. We all know he owns the most valuable team in the league.

Until now I’ve just directed more of my anger towards Cashman than Hal. Look what’s happening with Stroman this year? Feels like there’s always a player that cash is trying to get rid of cuz he gave them a contract that no one else would have. Wasn’t there like 70 million bucks that didn’t make it on the playoff roster last season? You just can’t have almost 25% of your payroll tied up in dead money. I like the Bellinger move but I’m quite terrified that his 27 million is going to cause issues next year.

[moocow007]

Take a chance on Alec Bohm and make a trade for him. The Yankees have the near MLB prospects the Phils are looking for that won’t dip into their top prospect list and the guys near ready are blocked. Bohm would be a better option than anything they got in house, let’s just be honest. For those that love Baseball Savant Bohm shows up at least as even if not better than Bregman, Donovan or Arenado. Yes there’s a risk but he’d be cheaper to get than Donovan and costs a lot less than all of him (which makes him more realistic). If he doesn’t work out personality wise they can trade him.

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/alec-bohm-664761?stats=statcast-r-hitting-mlb

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/alex-bregman-608324

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/brendan-donovan-680977

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/nolan-arena

[KnicksGadfly]

Jack Flaherty 35 mill 2 years...Geez, Yankees really effed up again with the Stroman contract while trying to be cheap. Ownership also needs to just own up that it effed up by being cheap and not let this Stroman contract stop it from pursuing viable infield upgrades. Same with DJLM, Hicks, etc.

If you go cheap to avoid paying stars, don't eff it up. And if you do eff it up, don't let it stop you from pursuing winning, instead of relying on DJLM to man third base, or Anthony Rizzo at 1st.

And maybe someone should remind them that winning pays for itself. You get better branding, better sales, star players willing to sign for cheaper, etc.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

Yankees signed left handed reliever Tim Hill. Tim Hill is returning to the Yankees on a one-year, $2.85 million contract with a club option for 2026, according to a report from ESPN's Jeff Passan on Tuesday. Hill's club option is for $3 million, with a $350,000 buyout, per Passan. The team hasn't confirmed the report.

[Spree2Houston]

Yankees signed left handed reliever Tim Hill. Tim Hill is returning to the Yankees on a one-year, $2.85 million contract with a club option for 2026, according to a report from ESPN's Jeff Passan on Tuesday. Hill's club option is for $3 million, with a $350,000 buyout, per Passan. The team hasn't confirmed the report.

[KnicksGadfly]

Take a chance on Alec Bohm and make a trade for him. The Yankees have the near MLB prospects the Phils are looking for that won’t dip into their top prospect list and the guys near ready are blocked. Bohm would be a better option than anything they got in house, let’s just be honest. For those that love Baseball Savant Bohm shows up at least as even if not better than Bregman, Donovan or Arenado. Yes there’s a risk but he’d be cheaper to get than Donovan and costs a lot less than all of him (which makes him more realistic). If he doesn’t work out personality wise they can trade him.

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/alec-bohm-664761?stats=statcast-r-hitting-mlb

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/alex-bregman-608324

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/brendan-donovan-680977

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/nolan-arena

Feels like Philly was asking for Mason Miller in exchange for Bohm. I think the only way this happens is if Bregman and Philly get together and Hal decides he doesn't care about sunk-cost Yankees' cheap failure Stroman and Philly doesn't go crazy.

[Luv those Knicks]

Jack Flaherty 35 mill 2 years...Geez, Yankees really effed up again with the Stroman contract while trying to be cheap. Ownership also needs to just own up that it effed up by being cheap and not let this Stroman contract stop it from pursuing viable infield upgrades. Same with DJLM, Hicks, etc.

If you go cheap to avoid paying stars, don't eff it up. And if you do eff it up, don't let it stop you from pursuing winning, instead of relying on DJLM to man third base, or Anthony Rizzo at 1st.

And maybe someone should remind them that winning pays for itself. You get better branding, better sales, star players willing to sign for cheaper, etc.

Flaherty's deal is weirdly structured. It's 2-35 guaranteed, but if he makes 15 starts it's 2-45. He can also opt out after 1 year 25. That doesn't change the conversation of Hal being cheap, but it's not a typical 2-35 deal. It's 25 against the cap this year.

[knicks94]

Gleyber Torres and Cashman are having fun throwing spit balls at each other. Supposedly Cashman's "plan" when he acquired Chisolm was to play Chisolm at 2B and move Gleyber to 3B. But Gleyber stomped his feet and threatened to hold his breath til he turned blue if he was moved to 3B. Cashman, ever protective of Boone, said it was Boone's decision to leave Torres at 2B.

Now, whether or not any major decision is truly Boone's alone to make is debatable. So, is this Cashman throwing Boone under the bus or is it an example of Boone kowtowing to a petulant player. Personally, I think Cashman/Boone should have told Torres he had two choices. Play 3B or sit on the bench.