Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (PtXI, Mods close)

WeAreVenom · Post #501 » by **WeAreVenom** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:48 pm

BelgianMagic wrote:Joe Johnson & Mario Chalmers .. Really??

Kyle Korver, JJ Redick, Steph Curry, Ray Allen & Steve Nash say hi

I'd be all over that

The Real Dalic · Post #502 » by **The Real Dalic** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:49 pm

magicman123 wrote:JJ snubbed again

Participants in the 2012 3-point shooting contest include James Jones, Joe Johnson, Kevin Love, Mario Chalmers, Ryan Anderson and Anthony Morrow.

no wonder why the event sucks, nobody wants to watch these guys, chalmers, morrow, jones, and johnson...

There's no reason to have 2 Heat players in an Orlando All-Star Weekend! JJ and Ryno made MUCH MORE SENSE!!! this really has me pissed off! the Heat get everything including minor things like 3pt shootout even though they don't deserve it......... we ARE KNOWN FOR 3 POINTERS!!! and we don't have 2 guys in there! IN OUR OWN BUILDING!!

WeAreVenom · Post #503 » by **WeAreVenom** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:52 pm

The Real Dalic wrote:
magicman123 wrote:JJ snubbed again

Participants in the 2012 3-point shooting contest include James Jones, Joe Johnson, Kevin Love, Mario Chalmers, Ryan Anderson and Anthony Morrow.

no wonder why the event sucks, nobody wants to watch these guys, chalmers, morrow, jones, and johnson...

There's no reason to have 2 Heat players in an Orlando All-Star Weekend! JJ and Ryno made MUCH MORE SENSE!!! this really has me pissed off! the Heat get everything including minor things like 3pt shootout even though they don't deserve it......... we ARE KNOWN FOR 3 POINTERS!!! and we don't have 2 guys in there! IN OUR OWN BUILDING!!

Seriously.

I don't get that at all, unless JJ and JRich flat out refused, there is no reason for that.

Like anybody even wants to see Mario Freakin Chalmers.

GameOver25 · Post #504 » by **GameOver25** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:56 pm

James Jones, Chalmers, and Joe Johnson??? :lol:

rcklsscognition · Post #505 » by **rcklsscognition** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:59 pm

I think as far as 3s and stats are concerned, Hedo is 2nd on the Magic, though J-Rich might have moved up to #2 with the game against the Bucks. Someone must have refused, I can't believe they're putting 2 Miami guys on there and only 1 Magician.

PeePee la Fritz · Post #506 » by **PeePee la Fritz** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:06 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:I think as far as 3s and stats are concerned, Hedo is 2nd on the Magic, though J-Rich might have moved up to #2 with the game against the Bucks. Someone must have refused, I can't believe they're putting 2 Miami guys on there and only 1 Magician.

+1. With all the great shooters in the league no team deserves 2 shooters.

Skin · Post #507 » by **Skin** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:06 pm

ChildishGambino wrote:
Noonskadoodle wrote:Has anybody heard an estimate on when JR is supposed to sign?

he probably won't sign anything until maybe either before the All-star break or after

Not soon enough. I've been wanting JR here since forever. So happy to hear that one of my wishes has some legs to it.

warren4prez · Post #508 » by **warren4prez** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:09 pm

WeAreVenom wrote:
The Real Dalic wrote:
magicman123 wrote:JJ snubbed again

Participants in the 2012 3-point shooting contest include James Jones, Joe Johnson, Kevin Love, Mario Chalmers, Ryan Anderson and Anthony Morrow.

no wonder why the event sucks, nobody wants to watch these guys, chalmers, morrow, jones, and johnson...

There's no reason to have 2 Heat players in an Orlando All-Star Weekend! JJ and Ryno made MUCH MORE SENSE!!! this really has me pissed off! the Heat get everything including minor things like 3pt shootout even though they don't deserve it......... we ARE KNOWN FOR 3 POINTERS!!! and we don't have 2 guys in there! IN OUR OWN BUILDING!!

Seriously.

I don't get that at all, unless JJ and JRich flat out refused, there is no reason for that.

Like anybody even wants to see Mario Freakin Chalmers.

I understand what you are saying but chalmers does have more makes than JJ from 3pt line

WeAreVenom · Post #509 » by **WeAreVenom** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:19 pm

warren4prez wrote:
WeAreVenom wrote:
The Real Dalic wrote:There's no reason to have 2 Heat players in an Orlando All-Star Weekend! JJ and Ryno made MUCH MORE SENSE!!! this really has me pissed off! the Heat get everything including minor things like 3pt shootout even though they don't deserve it......... we ARE KNOWN FOR 3 POINTERS!!! and we don't have 2 guys in there! IN OUR OWN BUILDING!!

Seriously.

I don't get that at all, unless JJ and JRich flat out refused, there is no reason for that.

Like anybody even wants to see Mario Freakin Chalmers.

I understand what you are saying but chalmers does have more makes than JJ from 3pt line

I get that, I wasn't really going off of terms of skill, though.

I was thinking because we have 2 Heat players, but the hometown team only has 1. If any team has 2, it should be us.

magic04life · Post #510 » by **magic04life** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:22 pm

I don't want to lose JJ. I would try everything possible to keep JJ and get JR.

Post #511 » by **Bensational** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:28 pm

i'm not a JR Smith fan, and if he joins the team i think people will be wishing for the days when we had guys like JJ and even JRich who could shoot within the system, BUT... if it means we're making changes, then i'm happy. i just hope the big picture is worth it.

i'm assuming one of JRich or JJ are on the move, most likely JJ.

guys on my wishlist - Nash, Monta, Deron.

Skin · Post #512 » by **Skin** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:36 pm

Bensational wrote:i'm not a JR Smith fan, and if he joins the team i think people will be wishing for the days when we had guys like JJ and even JRich who could shoot within the system, BUT... if it means we're making changes, then i'm happy. i just hope the big picture is worth it.

i'm assuming one of JRich or JJ are on the move, most likely JJ.

guys on my wishlist - Nash, Monta, Deron.

I don't think JJ would be traded. Are the Lakers gonna trade Kobe if they sign JR? No.

Besides, JJ's contract can be voided so he's more valuable to us than he is to anyone else.

I said this from the start when JRich first signed his deal.... It's all about using him as trade bait to dump a bad contract. ...Unlikely to be Hedo, but I could see Jameer or Duhon being packaged with him. JRich is heating up his stock up at the right time.

Now if we can pawn off Ryno with Hedo, then that's where Otis can revive his image.

Nemesis21 · Post #513 » by **Nemesis21** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:07 am

magic04life wrote:I don't want to lose JJ. I would try everything possible to keep JJ and get JR.

+1, I'd rather move J Rich. Keep JJ.

TSKD000 · Post #514 » by **TSKD000** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:23 am

If we signed JR Smith, u definitely trade JRich. Start JR and keep bringing JJ off the bench. Unless we are playing top scoring SF like Bron or Melo, Wafer should be getting the back up SF mins.

ADRajX · Post #515 » by **ADRajX** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:45 am

Nemesis21 wrote:
magic04life wrote:I don't want to lose JJ. I would try everything possible to keep JJ and get JR.

+1, I'd rather move J Rich. Keep JJ.

this

WeAreVenom · Post #516 » by **WeAreVenom** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:06 am

DJRajX wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:
magic04life wrote:I don't want to lose JJ. I would try everything possible to keep JJ and get JR.

+1, I'd rather move J Rich. Keep JJ.

this

Yeah, I'd definitely rather have JJ.

But, the only thing is........I doubt any team is going to want JRich, unless we trade with a team that is already contending.

thelead · Post #517 » by **thelead** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:08 am

you know what though, if Dwight leaves, JJ no longer matters. He's not that young and will look to go to a contender anyways after next year if Dwight is not here. You trade whoever it takes to keep Dwight if possible.

Post #518 » by **Bensational** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:41 am

WeAreVenom wrote:
DJRajX wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:

+1, I'd rather move J Rich. Keep JJ.

this

Yeah, I'd definitely rather have JJ.

But, the only thing is........I doubt any team is going to want JRich, unless we trade with a team that is already contending.

Exactly. JRich is only going to bring back another veteran on a bad contract. Young teams won't want him, teams clearin space wont want him. JJ, on the other hand, at least has the option to cancel his contract after this season. He's essentially a no risk addition.

Id much rather keep JJ, but it all comes down to what other teams want, and I don't think they'll want JRich.

magicman123 · Post #519 » by **magicman123** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:58 am

thelead wrote:you know what though, if Dwight leaves, JJ no longer matters. He's not that young and will look to go to a contender anyways after next year if Dwight is not here. You trade whoever it takes to keep Dwight if possible.

or you just build around JJ and let him lead us to a championship

The Real Dalic · Post #520 » by **The Real Dalic** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:34 am

magicman123 wrote:
thelead wrote:you know what though, if Dwight leaves, JJ no longer matters. He's not that young and will look to go to a contender anyways after next year if Dwight is not here. You trade whoever it takes to keep Dwight if possible.

or you just build around JJ and let him lead us to a championship

THIS!