2014 Free Agency Thread

[mrknowitall215]

Lance cost money alone.

Hayward costs money and talent in the form of players or picks.

I think it's a no-brainer.

This team has several holes. The main one is we need a 3rd option and Lance is the best 3rd option out there for money alone. And he's 23. He can grow with Kemba, MKG, Zeller, the player we take with the Blazers pick and the player we select with the Pistons pick. It could be a really strong group of young players to watch mesh for a very long time. Clifford is solid. The culture is solid.

Actually depending on what Utah would match Hayward costs money alone too.

True, but I don't see a scenario in which Charlotte can net Gordon Hayward without doling out a near max-contract offer unless there was a sign-and-trade scenario in which the Detroit 1st rounder is going out, and I would strongly disagree with that idea

[Liver_Pooty]

Lance cost money alone.

Hayward costs money and talent in the form of players or picks.

I think it's a no-brainer.

This team has several holes. The main one is we need a 3rd option and Lance is the best 3rd option out there for money alone. And he's 23. He can grow with Kemba, MKG, Zeller, the player we take with the Blazers pick and the player we select with the Pistons pick. It could be a really strong group of young players to watch mesh for a very long time. Clifford is solid. The culture is solid.

Actually depending on what Utah would match Hayward costs money alone too.

True, but I don't see a scenario in which Charlotte can net Gordon Hayward without doling out a near max-contract offer unless there was a sign-and-trade scenario in which the Detroit 1st rounder is going out, and I would strongly disagree with that idea

With Drummond only going to get better, I think the Detroit first rounder isn't as valuable as some may think it is. Sure Detroit sucked this year, but with the right FA signing or trade, not including their top 8 pick this year they will be better next year.

Edit: I also think Drummond is entirely overrated. He played some piss poor defense all year this year. Hell of a rebounder, but he is not the next Dwight Howard, at all.

[mrknowitall215]

Actually depending on what Utah would match Hayward costs money alone too.

True, but I don't see a scenario in which Charlotte can net Gordon Hayward without doling out a near max-contract offer unless there was a sign-and-trade scenario in which the Detroit 1st rounder is going out, and I would strongly disagree with that idea

With Drummond only going to get better, I think the Detroit first rounder isn't as valuable as some may think it is. Sure Detroit sucked this year, but with the right FA signing or trade, not including their top 8 pick this year they will be better next year.

Edit: I also think Drummond is entirely overrated. He played some piss poor defense all year this year. Hell of a rebounder, but he is not the next Dwight Howard, at all.

Before I would trade the Detroit 1st rounder to overpay Hayward coming off a inefficient down year in which he was playing to prove his worth for his self-proclaimed max-contract status, I would offer it for Jeremy Lamb. At least Lamb is still at rookie scale

As some have aforementioned, there's no way Charlotte will be able to acquire Hayward at a reasonable price with the Jazz and Suns being his biggest suitors

[Liver_Pooty]

True, but I don't see a scenario in which Charlotte can net Gordon Hayward without doling out a near max-contract offer unless there was a sign-and-trade scenario in which the Detroit 1st rounder is going out, and I would strongly disagree with that idea

With Drummond only going to get better, I think the Detroit first rounder isn't as valuable as some may think it is. Sure Detroit sucked this year, but with the right FA signing or trade, not including their top 8 pick this year they will be better next year.

Edit: I also think Drummond is entirely overrated. He played some piss poor defense all year this year. Hell of a rebounder, but he is not the next Dwight Howard, at all.

Before I would trade the Detroit 1st rounder to overpay Hayward coming off a inefficient down year in which he was playing to prove his worth for his self-proclaimed max-contract status, I would offer it for Jeremy Lamb. At least Lamb is still at rookie scale

As some have aforementioned, there's no way Charlotte will be able to acquire Hayward at a reasonable price with the Jazz and Suns being his biggest suitors

Im sure we wont get Hayward, but I dislike Lamb. He will be a solid NBA player, but he isn't worth trading anything of value over.

[JDR720]

Didn't Utah try and give Hayward an extension Hayward turned it down? If they wouldn't pay him then i dont think they'd pay him now with all their other young players needing to get paid soon

[mrknowitall215]

Im sure we wont get Hayward, but I dislike Lamb. He will be a solid NBA player, but he isn't worth trading anything of value over.

Jeremy Lamb could sleepwalk into 15 points per game on middling efficiency right now with starter minutes on the current Bobcats roster, and he's just scratching the surface

[Liver_Pooty]

Im sure we wont get Hayward, but I dislike Lamb. He will be a solid NBA player, but he isn't worth trading anything of value over.

Jeremy Lamb could sleepwalk into 15 points per game on middling efficiency right now with starter minutes on the current Bobcats roster, and he's just scratching the surface

Im just going to say that I completely disagree and that I have no idea what the infatuation with Lamb is on this board, just like I didn't understand the Evan Turner infatuation.

I agree to disagree my friend.

[JDR720]

Im sure we wont get Hayward, but I dislike Lamb. He will be a solid NBA player, but he isn't worth trading anything of value over.

Jeremy Lamb could sleepwalk into 15 points per game on middling efficiency right now with starter minutes on the current Bobcats roster, and he's just scratching the surface

Im just going to say that I completely disagree and that I have no idea what the infatuation with Lamb is on this board, just like I didn't understand the Evan Turner infatuation.

I agree to disagree my friend.

UConn bias i guess

[mrknowitall215]

Didn't Utah try and give Hayward an extension Hayward turned it down? If they wouldn't pay him then i dont think they'd pay him now with all their other young players needing to get paid soon

The Jazz offered Hayward a four-year deal worth $40 million plus incentives, and he turned it down seeking a near max-contract a la John Wall & DeMarcus Cousins. Silly, right? I laughed too

[Liver_Pooty]

Didn't Utah try and give Hayward an extension Hayward turned it down? If they wouldn't pay him then i dont think they'd pay him now with all their other young players needing to get paid soon

The Jazz offered Hayward a four-year deal worth $40 million plus incentives, and he turned it down seeking a near max-contract a la John Wall & DeMarcus Cousins. Silly, right? I laughed too

He screwed up big time. Its one thing being a good shooter living off of Al Jeffersons triple and double teams, its another being a shooter and being the one doubled as the focal point of the offense.

Who is our starting center? Except we have a MUCH better supporting cast than the Jazz last year, other than Millsap.

Either way its a moot point. Utah will match any offer.

[mrknowitall215]

Im sure we wont get Hayward, but I dislike Lamb. He will be a solid NBA player, but he isn't worth trading anything of value over.

Jeremy Lamb could sleepwalk into 15 points per game on middling efficiency right now with starter minutes on the current Bobcats roster, and he's just scratching the surface

Im just going to say that I completely disagree and that I have no idea what the infatuation with Lamb is on this board, just like I didn't understand the Evan Turner infatuation.

I agree to disagree my friend.

There never was much infatuation over Evan Turner. Some, and very few of us were just enamored by the opportunity to acquire such a versatile player for nothing more than Ben Gordon's expiring contract

Jeremy Lamb on the other hand, I believe he'll be a above average SG in this league for years to come once he get the opportunity

[mrknowitall215]

UConn bias i guess

Duke fans don't like us. We stole a couple of championships from them over the past two decades

[Liver_Pooty]

Jeremy Lamb could sleepwalk into 15 points per game on middling efficiency right now with starter minutes on the current Bobcats roster, and he's just scratching the surface

Im just going to say that I completely disagree and that I have no idea what the infatuation with Lamb is on this board, just like I didn't understand the Evan Turner infatuation.

I agree to disagree my friend.

There never was much infatuation over Evan Turner. Some, and very few of us were just enamored by the opportunity to acquire such a versatile player for nothing more than Ben Gordon's expiring contract

Jeremy Lamb on the other hand, I believe he'll be a above average SG in this league for years to come once he get the opportunity

He has an opportunity in OKC, and Sefolosha starts, and Reggie Williams also plays off guard. Id take Henderson over Sefolosha any day of the week. Williams is more of a scoring PG so the mere fact that he would play in front of Lamb speaks volumes.

[Liver_Pooty]

UConn bias i guess

Duke fans don't like us. We stole a couple of championships from them over the past two decades

UCONN is not on Dukes radar, at all. I assure you. We worry about UNC, UNC, and UNC.

Thats about it.

Although in 1999 you guys should have gotten SMOKED with the talent we had on our roster, but you won, oh well.

[mrknowitall215]

He has an opportunity in OKC, and Sefolosha starts, and Reggie Williams also plays off guard. Id take Henderson over Sefolosha any day of the week. Williams is more of a scoring PG so the mere fact that he would play in front of Lamb speaks volumes.

Sefolosha even started over James Harden when he was there

Reggie Williams hasn't & isn't playing in front of Lamb

...and Scott Brooks is a incompetent coach that's about a couple weeks away from being fired

Check the splits, Lamb averages 17 points, 4 rebounds, and 4 assist whenever he receive at least 30 minutes of playing time

[JDR720]

James Harden was OKC's super 6th man and they started Sefolosha for defense with the starting lineup

[Liver_Pooty]

He has an opportunity in OKC, and Sefolosha starts, and Reggie Williams also plays off guard. Id take Henderson over Sefolosha any day of the week. Williams is more of a scoring PG so the mere fact that he would play in front of Lamb speaks volumes.

Sefolosha even started over James Harden when he was there

Reggie Williams hasn't & isn't playing in front of Lamb

...and Scott Brooks is a incompetent coach that's about a couple weeks away from being fired

Check the splits, Lamb averages 17 points, 4 rebounds, and 4 assist whenever he receive at least 30 minutes of playing time

What does Lamb bring? Hes a shooter? 35% from 3. a good defender? Maybe. Hes nothing special that we should be getting off about or be willing to give up anything of value for.

[mrknowitall215]

James Harden was OKC's super 6th man and they started Sefolosha for defense with the starting lineup

Oh, I know the circumstances. Sefolosha still isn't anything more than a stopgap defensive-minded SG that start to set the tone, but now Brooks use Derek Fisher as his super 6th man

[JDR720]

James Harden was OKC's super 6th man and they started Sefolosha for defense with the starting lineup

Oh, I know the circumstances. Sefolosha still isn't anything more than a stopgap defensive-minded SG that start to set the tone, but now Brooks use Derek Fisher as his super 6th man

well if Lamb cant take the role of super 6th man over a 40 year old PG that kinda sucks something has to be wrong with him or Brooks is a class A moron

[mrknowitall215]

What does Lamb bring? Hes a shooter? 35% from 3. a good defender? Maybe. Hes nothing special that we should be getting off about or be willing to give up anything of value for.

Says the guy who's adamant about bringing in Hayward after shooting 30% on 3-pointers for the season. Lamb made more 3-pointers (88 total) than Hayward (85 total) off the bench in limited minutes