Official Trade Thread - Part XXVII

[Severn Hoos]

Good thought. They'll probably have just enough cap space if Randolph and Ed Davis leave. Problem would be depth and athleticism up front. Koufos and Leuer aren't the quickest backup bigs. They'd need some old bodies to stay healthy.

Hmm..intriguing. A frontcourt of Gasol, Gasol, Koufos, and Leuer. There's something about it that's... well, I can't put my finger on it, it's... unusual, to be sure, but can't figure out why?

I might have to ponder it a bit more, while I watch clips of the '93-94 Bullets....

[Ruzious]

Good thought. They'll probably have just enough cap space if Randolph and Ed Davis leave. Problem would be depth and athleticism up front. Koufos and Leuer aren't the quickest backup bigs. They'd need some old bodies to stay healthy.

Hmm..intriguing. A frontcourt of Gasol, Gasol, Koufos, and Leuer. There's something about it that's... well, I can't put my finger on it, it's... unusual, to be sure, but can't figure out why?

I might have to ponder it a bit more, while I watch clips of the '93-94 Bullets....

You're completely wrong. Leuer is Minnesotan; not European. Now don't you feel foolish?

[LyricalRico]

Good thought. They'll probably have just enough cap space if Randolph and Ed Davis leave. Problem would be depth and athleticism up front. Koufos and Leuer aren't the quickest backup bigs. They'd need some old bodies to stay healthy.

Hmm..intriguing. A frontcourt of Gasol, Gasol, Koufos, and Leuer. There's something about it that's... well, I can't put my finger on it, it's... unusual, to be sure, but can't figure out why?

To me, the most intriguing part is what happens to Z-Bo in that scenario. Would he then take Gasol's spot in LA? That would be interesting.

[Severn Hoos]

Good thought. They'll probably have just enough cap space if Randolph and Ed Davis leave. Problem would be depth and athleticism up front. Koufos and Leuer aren't the quickest backup bigs. They'd need some old bodies to stay healthy.

Hmm..intriguing. A frontcourt of Gasol, Gasol, Koufos, and Leuer. There's something about it that's... well, I can't put my finger on it, it's... unusual, to be sure, but can't figure out why?

I might have to ponder it a bit more, while I watch clips of the '93-94 Bullets....

You're completely wrong. Leuer is Minnesotan; not European. Now don't you feel foolish?

Technicality. Have you ever heard anyone from Minnesota speak? I can't distinguish it from a bunch of pasty hockey players with names like Annderrssson and Gusstaffsson and Svoboda...

[Ruzious]

Good thought. They'll probably have just enough cap space if Randolph and Ed Davis leave. Problem would be depth and athleticism up front. Koufos and Leuer aren't the quickest backup bigs. They'd need some old bodies to stay healthy.

Hmm..intriguing. A frontcourt of Gasol, Gasol, Koufos, and Leuer. There's something about it that's... well, I can't put my finger on it, it's... unusual, to be sure, but can't figure out why?

To me, the most intriguing part is what happens to Z-Bo in that scenario. Would he then take Gasol's spot in LA? That would be interesting.

Good question. He turns 33 this offseason, so it's his last contract of substance. What kind of contract are he and Pau going to be able to get? Maybe less than I assumed. Can you imagine either settling for the MLE? I can't, but maybe I'm wrong.

[Ruzious]

Hmm..intriguing. A frontcourt of Gasol, Gasol, Koufos, and Leuer. There's something about it that's... well, I can't put my finger on it, it's... unusual, to be sure, but can't figure out why?

I might have to ponder it a bit more, while I watch clips of the '93-94 Bullets....

You're completely wrong. Leuer is Minnesotan; not European. Now don't you feel foolish?

Technicality. Have you ever heard anyone from Minnesota speak? I can't distinguish it from a bunch of pasty hockey players with names like Annderrssson and Gusstaffsson and Svoboda...

You might be right this time. I just assumed that all Minnesotians sound like hometown hero Ricky Rubio.

[LyricalRico]

To me, the most intriguing part is what happens to Z-Bo in that scenario. Would he then take Gasol's spot in LA? That would be interesting.

Good question. He turns 33 this offseason, so it's his last contract of substance. What kind of contract are he and Pau going to be able to get? Maybe less than I assumed. Can you imagine either settling for the MLE? I can't, but maybe I'm wrong.

I could see Randolph and Pau getting a David West type deals - 3 years, $36M (Pau is probably in the same bucket). Maybe LA signs Z-Bo for that, Pierce for another 2 years, $20M, and try to deal Nash to Minny for Budinger+Brewer+Barea. Costs them a shot at Kevin Love, but they'd be solid for the next 2 years IMO, especially if they end up with a PG in the draft.

Hill/FA (maybe Okafor if he's healthy)
Randolph/FA (maybe a guy like Gooden)
Pierce/Budinger
Kobe/Brewer
Smart(?)/Barea

[Severn Hoos]

You're completely wrong. Leuer is Minnesotan; not European. Now don't you feel foolish?

Technicality. Have you ever heard anyone from Minnesota speak? I can't distinguish it from a bunch of pasty hockey players with names like Annderrssson and Gusstaffsson and Svoboda...

You might be right this time. I just assumed that all Minnesotians sound like hometown hero Ricky Rubio.

Love Dial, who's ready to fall in Love?

[deneem4]

So say nene goes on to dominate the dpoty and we win the series...do we still put nene on the trading block in the off season??...
If so who would u trade him for??

[dangermouse]

Well, what do we do, keep playing Nene 40 or so games to start the season and then rest him until 5 games before the playoffs? For the next 2 seasons?

Im not advocating trading him for peanuts, but if a trade scenario where we get back a decent haul becomes available, you take it.

[montestewart]

Well, what do we do, keep playing Nene 40 or so games to start the season and then rest him until 5 games before the playoffs? For the next 2 seasons?

Im not advocating trading him for peanuts, but if a trade scenario where we get back a decent haul becomes available, you take it.

Especially anything that helps the Wizards transition to the future. As good as Nene, Gortat, Ariza, and Miller are looking, their ages say "Replace Soon" and the expected mid to late firsts in the upcoming years don't exactly scream foundational piece. The Wizards have to find some younger talent, especially in the big rotation.

[dangermouse]

Would be fantastic if Cousins forced a trade here. Maybe he looks at Wall and co. in the playoffs and gets jealous, thinking that the Kings as they are will never make it there. I pray to mighty Thor that it happens some day.

[verbal8]

Well, what do we do, keep playing Nene 40 or so games to start the season and then rest him until 5 games before the playoffs? For the next 2 seasons?

Im not advocating trading him for peanuts, but if a trade scenario where we get back a decent haul becomes available, you take it.

If Memphis offered Prince(salary filler), Ed Davis(sign and trade) and their 1st, that would be a very intriguing offer.

OKC might do something around Perkins, but the incentives seem harder to match up.

Toronto might have a couple options around Amir Johnson - Steve Novak or a Patterson S&T.

[nate33]

Would be fantastic if Cousins forced a trade here. Maybe he looks at Wall and co. in the playoffs and gets jealous, thinking that the Kings as they are will never make it there. I pray to mighty Thor that it happens some day.

Cousins will be a restricted free agent. He won't really have the leverage to force himself anywhere unless he is willing to walk away from a lot of money and accept the Qualifying Offer when his rookie deal expires. In reality, he can't force his way out of Sacramento without taking a financial hit until he is there for 7 years.

The only leverage has is the fact that he is a first-rate A-hole. He could tell management that he intends to dial up A-Hole Mode until he gets his way. If anyone can do it, Cousins can.

[WizTom]

Cousins signed a 4-year max. extension last September.

[Rafael122]

Y'all are nuts if you think Randolph will opt out. $16 mil is $16 mil, last chance at a contract or not, he doesn't rely on athleticism to make an impact. Worse case scenario is he opts in, and gets like a 2 yr/$20 million deal as his last contract, that's still a 3 yr/$36 million when you break it down.

This is why I suggested that maybe Memphis will be trying to move someone, like Koufos or something, b/c they can't afford Pau if Randolph opts in, so they want to shed salary (Lee, Prince, etc).

[LyricalRico]

Well, what do we do, keep playing Nene 40 or so games to start the season and then rest him until 5 games before the playoffs? For the next 2 seasons?

Im not advocating trading him for peanuts, but if a trade scenario where we get back a decent haul becomes available, you take it.

I think it has to be more than a "decent haul". Maybe a guy who is almost as good, plus something else?

[Youheardme90]

I mean, I thought about it last night. Nene is an older guy with a history of injury problems, we should not just look for someone with talent to replace Nene, but a player with a similar skill set. A physical, passing big man.

[WallToWall]

I mean, I thought about it last night. Nene is an older guy with a history of injury problems, we should not just look for someone with talent to replace Nene, but a player with a similar skill set. A physical, passing big man.

The closest player that I can come up with is Pau Gasol. But he too is old, and maybe has 3 good years left. He's not injury prone. He will not play physical D like Nene, but he will hit the mid range and probably even further out.

[jivelikenice]

I'm beginning to think its best to re-sign Ariza and let go of Gortat (obviously depending on what you can get to replace him) Gortat gives you rebounding but watching yesterday, can you pay a guy $10 mil/year and have him not be on the floor at the end of a game when you're in the playoffs? He just isn't finishing strong enough right now. Lets see how the series/playoffs continue but if I could get a replacement for less years (i.e. Asik) in a S&T type of deal or maybe even Gasol then I do that. We'd have to figure out how to keep the caphold on Ariza and still sign Gasol though.....