Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank

[mpharris36]

Dante Exum looked pretty damn good last night.

That is a condemnation of the Knicks. Exum is not a good player.

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are the sixers good?

because he exum the game before the knicks game scored 20 pts in 21 minutes vs the sixers. Exum is having a nice solid season.

[Richard4444]

Frank has great potencial. But when he is not felling condident, he is not only insecure to shoot the ball. He also dont drive to the lane or try to make difficult passes. His offensive game becomes limited to only obvious passes.

If we contract Mud in a cheap deal and get a more refined PG at Draft or at the Free Agency, we will not have rotational spots to give gaming time to him. Due to the fact we already have 4 wings for 2019, he will also not play as SG ou SF.

But I only would deal him this season for a great offer. I can see Spurs or Celtics offer a middle round pick for Frank + our second rounder at the draft night. If Garland still be avaliable in the draft at the time, I would make the trade.

[Jose7]

jonathan isaac just put up 4pts, 1st, 1reb, 1ast, 1/4 shooting in 33 minutes..young guys STRUGGLE but they shown flash and potential.

Frank has so much time to develop..just keep chipping at it Frank..

[BBALLER4FR]

Here's to hoping Frank can reach Dante Exum potential. We're almost there.

[kane2021]

This was the wrong player to stake your reputation on.


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[prophet_of_rage]

Dante Exum looked pretty damn good last night.

That is a condemnation of the Knicks. Exum is not a good player.

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are the sixers good?

because he exum the game before the knicks game scored 20 pts in 21 minutes vs the sixers. Exum is having a nice solid season.

Would you trade Frank for Exum?


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[prophet_of_rage]

Dante Exum looked pretty damn good last night.

That is a condemnation of the Knicks. Exum is not a good player.

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are the sixers good?

because he exum the game before the knicks game scored 20 pts in 21 minutes vs the sixers. Exum is having a nice solid season.

Utah is.very good. Exum benefits from the system.


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[mpharris36]

That is a condemnation of the Knicks. Exum is not a good player.

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are the sixers good?

because he exum the game before the knicks game scored 20 pts in 21 minutes vs the sixers. Exum is having a nice solid season.

Would you trade Frank for Exum?


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i see you didn't answer my question but to answer your question contract and age come into play so no. We have two cost controlled years of rank who I still believe will be a nice piece here...and exum is on his 2nd contract making about 10 million a year. So 3 years younger on a rookie deal give Frank the heads up. I like Exum, I do think however Frank with his defense and while he isn't showing it now will be a better 3 point shooter.

If you asking me Mudiay or Exum for the future (in terms of a future 2nd contract guard)....I would take Exum.

[Dantares]

I want to say I believe in Frank now when he is down. Don't want to be like the hating frontrunners who will disappear from this thread when Frank is playing good.

[prophet_of_rage]

are the sixers good?

because he exum the game before the knicks game scored 20 pts in 21 minutes vs the sixers. Exum is having a nice solid season.

Would you trade Frank for Exum?


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i see you didn't answer my question but to answer your question contract and age come into play so no. We have two cost controlled years of rank who I still believe will be a nice piece here...and exum is on his 2nd contract making about 10 million a year. So 3 years younger on a rookie deal give Frank the heads up. I like Exum, I do think however Frank with his defense and while he isn't showing it now will be a better 3 point shooter.

If you asking me Mudiay or Exum for the future (in terms of a future 2nd contract guard)....I would take Exum.

Utah lost that Philly game by 17. They were blown out. So his 20 against them I’m not impressed with. Those are Kanter, THard type results.

When and how you get your points counts. Do you see Frank playing like Exum? He has never had a three game streak like Exum has statistically this week.


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[mpharris36]

Would you trade Frank for Exum?


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i see you didn't answer my question but to answer your question contract and age come into play so no. We have two cost controlled years of rank who I still believe will be a nice piece here...and exum is on his 2nd contract making about 10 million a year. So 3 years younger on a rookie deal give Frank the heads up. I like Exum, I do think however Frank with his defense and while he isn't showing it now will be a better 3 point shooter.

If you asking me Mudiay or Exum for the future (in terms of a future 2nd contract guard)....I would take Exum.

Utah lost that Philly game by 17. They were blown out. So his 20 against them I’m not impressed with. Those are Kanter, THard type results.

When and how you get your points counts. Do you see Frank playing like Exum? He has never had a three game streak like Exum has statistically this week.


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thats not the point. The point is what a player will be...exum is 23 and in his fourth NBA season. Frank is 20 and in his 2nd. Complete difference.

I'm not sure why Exum's performance has to do with Utal losing as a team. The reason kanter and Thjr get sh*t on is because they are sh*t defenders. They don't effect the other end so they are NET negative players. Exum has never had an issue being a solid defender.

The point is player sometimes slowly develop...there is literally no rush to move away from a rookie contract player with more room to improve. Cost controlled players are exactly the guys we need with FA looming.

But its frivolous with you because you flag has been planted. Its a reason why I don't understand why you spend so much time in this thread. You don't like the dude but you spend a majority of your time talking about him....odd.

[Chanel Bomber]

I want to say I believe in Frank now when he is down. Don't want to be like the hating frontrunners who will disappear from this thread when Frank is playing good.

Saying people are hating closes the conversation. You're dismissing critical opinions of Frank as if posters were biased and held a personal grudge against Frank that was clouding their judgement. I don't think this is fair nor accurate.

I respect the fact that you went on record saying you believe in Frank but at this point it's really a matter of "if" and not "when" in my opinion. And I hope I'm the one who's wrong about this.

[BBALLER4FR]

I want to say I believe in Frank now when he is down. Don't want to be like the hating frontrunners who will disappear from this thread when Frank is playing good.

I'll be here. It'll be more interesting to see how many people follow him if he's dealt waiting for that "Hernangomez explosion". The kid has made NO improvement, he's been playing professionally long enough to show more and his most loyal supporters are searching for positives under rocks or conjuring up goofy stats. It's really strange.

[HarthorneWingo]

That is a condemnation of the Knicks. Exum is not a good player.

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are the sixers good?

because he exum the game before the knicks game scored 20 pts in 21 minutes vs the sixers. Exum is having a nice solid season.

Would you trade Frank for Exum?

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No. We drafted Frank and we'll develop him with our core group of players. There's no immediate rush.

Exum is only going to get better from here. Looks like he's finally comfortable and injury free. Frank will get there too.

[GONYK]

That is a condemnation of the Knicks. Exum is not a good player.

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are the sixers good?

because he exum the game before the knicks game scored 20 pts in 21 minutes vs the sixers. Exum is having a nice solid season.

Utah is.very good. Exum benefits from the system.


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Maybe we should wait until we have a system, or structure of any kind, before writing players off entirely.

[prophet_of_rage]

i see you didn't answer my question but to answer your question contract and age come into play so no. We have two cost controlled years of rank who I still believe will be a nice piece here...and exum is on his 2nd contract making about 10 million a year. So 3 years younger on a rookie deal give Frank the heads up. I like Exum, I do think however Frank with his defense and while he isn't showing it now will be a better 3 point shooter.

If you asking me Mudiay or Exum for the future (in terms of a future 2nd contract guard)....I would take Exum.

Utah lost that Philly game by 17. They were blown out. So his 20 against them I’m not impressed with. Those are Kanter, THard type results.

When and how you get your points counts. Do you see Frank playing like Exum? He has never had a three game streak like Exum has statistically this week.


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thats not the point. The point is what a player will be...exum is 23 and in his fourth NBA season. Frank is 20 and in his 2nd. Complete difference.

I'm not sure why Exum's performance has to do with Utal losing as a team. The reason kanter and Thjr get sh*t on is because they are sh*t defenders. They don't effect the other end so they are NET negative players. Exum has never had an issue being a solid defender.

The point is player sometimes slowly develop...there is literally no rush to move away from a rookie contract player with more room to improve. Cost controlled players are exactly the guys we need with FA looming.

But its frivolous with you because you flag has been planted. Its a reason why I don't understand why you spend so much time in this thread. You don't like the dude but you spend a majority of your time talking about him....odd.

There's a difference between not liking a dude and not believing he requires any extraordinary development. It's more accurate to say I am opposed to the idea that he is being given any detrimental treatment and not being developed. Think of it as an emperor's new clothes situation. You think he needs more. I think he gets as much as he deserves.

There is a significant difference.

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[Cookies4Life]

Utah lost that Philly game by 17. They were blown out. So his 20 against them I’m not impressed with. Those are Kanter, THard type results.

When and how you get your points counts. Do you see Frank playing like Exum? He has never had a three game streak like Exum has statistically this week.


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thats not the point. The point is what a player will be...exum is 23 and in his fourth NBA season. Frank is 20 and in his 2nd. Complete difference.

I'm not sure why Exum's performance has to do with Utal losing as a team. The reason kanter and Thjr get sh*t on is because they are sh*t defenders. They don't effect the other end so they are NET negative players. Exum has never had an issue being a solid defender.

The point is player sometimes slowly develop...there is literally no rush to move away from a rookie contract player with more room to improve. Cost controlled players are exactly the guys we need with FA looming.

But its frivolous with you because you flag has been planted. Its a reason why I don't understand why you spend so much time in this thread. You don't like the dude but you spend a majority of your time talking about him....odd.

There's a difference between not liking a dude and not believing he requires any extraordinary development. It's more accurate to say I am opposed to the idea that he is being given any detrimental treatment and not being developed. Think of it as an emperor's new clothes situation. You think he needs more. I think he gets as much as he deserves.

There is a significant difference.

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You don't come off as such. You're probably the most active poster in this thread, and some of your posts are a bit confusing. I replied to you about the totality of his game a few days ago and your response was he's a poor rebounder. I don't exactly know how your mind made that association from my reply to you since rebounding is not one of the facets to his game that most people are complaining about and I never brought up anything rebounding related in my posts.

It's ok if you don't like a player, you're absolutely entitled to your opinion. But to say that's not the case seems questionable; all your posts in this thread have a strong negative connotation to them. You don't come off as someone providing constructive criticism at all.

I think most people who want Frank to play more just believe if there's ever an opportunity for him to improve on his game with real live NBA reps, now would be the time. That's all. I'm sure most would be ok with him developing slower if he was playing for a competitive team with playoff aspirations. This team sucks, it's the perfect time for all the young kids to get a lot of minutes and be evaluated for the duration of the season to see who could be a potential keeper for our future.

He was the 8th pick in the draft just a little over a year ago, this team tanked that season as well to be able to obtain him. While we wait for our new shiny toy this summer from the draft, why not give our current lottery pick as many chances as possible to prove his worth. He was considered to be a project coming out of the draft, it's the perfect time now to let him play a larger role.

[NoStatsGuy]

i have no issue with frank deveolping into a 15-20 minute 3 and d guy. im cool with that

if he can at some point be like ariza ill glady keep him

[prophet_of_rage]

thats not the point. The point is what a player will be...exum is 23 and in his fourth NBA season. Frank is 20 and in his 2nd. Complete difference.

I'm not sure why Exum's performance has to do with Utal losing as a team. The reason kanter and Thjr get sh*t on is because they are sh*t defenders. They don't effect the other end so they are NET negative players. Exum has never had an issue being a solid defender.

The point is player sometimes slowly develop...there is literally no rush to move away from a rookie contract player with more room to improve. Cost controlled players are exactly the guys we need with FA looming.

But its frivolous with you because you flag has been planted. Its a reason why I don't understand why you spend so much time in this thread. You don't like the dude but you spend a majority of your time talking about him....odd.

There's a difference between not liking a dude and not believing he requires any extraordinary development. It's more accurate to say I am opposed to the idea that he is being given any detrimental treatment and not being developed. Think of it as an emperor's new clothes situation. You think he needs more. I think he gets as much as he deserves.

There is a significant difference.

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You don't come off as such. You're probably the most active poster in this thread, and some of your posts are a bit confusing. I replied to you about the totality of his game a few days ago and your response was he's a poor rebounder. I don't exactly know how your mind made that association from my reply to you since rebounding is not one of the facets to his game that most people are complaining about and I never brought up anything rebounding related in my posts.

It's ok if you don't like a player, you're absolutely entitled to your opinion. But to say that's not the case seems questionable; all your posts in this thread have a strong negative connotation to them. You don't come off as someone providing constructive criticism at all.

I think most people who want Frank to play more just believe if there's ever an opportunity for him to improve on his game with real live NBA reps, now would be the time. That's all. I'm sure most would be ok with him developing slower if he was playing for a competitive team with playoff aspirations. This team sucks, it's the perfect time for all the young kids to get a lot of minutes and be evaluated for the duration of the season to see who could be a potential keeper for our future.

He was the 8th pick in the draft just a little over a year ago, this team tanked that season as well to be able to obtain him. While we wait for our new shiny toy this summer from the draft, why not give our current lottery pick as many chances as possible to prove his worth. He was considered to be a project coming out of the draft, it's the perfect time now to let him play a larger role.

I referred to Frank's total game. My point was he didn't do anything when on the court. No points, rebounds, no playmaking. He just doesn't do enough to justify more playing time and he's been given sufficient time to develop on court.

Let him develop more over the summer like all other players.

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[Thugger HBC]

Frank still has time, but he has to develop much better than he has. Frank being just a 3 & D player is essentially a bust of a draft pick. 3&D can be found in the 2nd round. That's Dameyean Dotson, a second round pick. Those guys don't even stay on team that long unless they are elite at what they do. A team shouldn't invest in that.

Ariza seems to be the comparison lately. He's a role player, drafted in the 2nd round, outside of Houston he's bounced all over the league. No teams invests in a player like Ariza.

Batum would be a more acceptable growth goal. Even if Frank doesn't become a reliable scorer he needs to at least become a reliable playmaker, be able to knock down the 3 consistently and play premier defense.