2022 Offseason thread

[arich35]

Still can't believe we didn't upgrade the OL. The offense will be interesting this year, I think it will struggle for the first few games at the very least.

[Jikkle]

Center is my primary concern because they are splitting first-team reps between Brendal and Brunskil and if Brendal is really the guy he should get all the 1st team reps.

I don't think the offensive line will be a strength but it is too early to panic about it. Once pads are on and both starting tackles are back in I suspect it'll start to solidify and do better.

At this stage they are experimenting a bit with the offensive line and early on in training camp that's fine but you hope by the first preseason game you have a grasp on what you got and start to build some chemistry with the starting group before the season.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Still can't believe we didn't upgrade the OL. The offense will be interesting this year, I think it will struggle for the first few games at the very least.

Alex Mack’s retirement is really hurting the unit. The right side of the Oline is struggling mightily right now. Jaylon Moore and Spencer Burford are too young and inexperienced.

On the bright side, our secondary will dominate opponents this year. That’s if the unit remains healthy. That’s a big if.

[Jikkle]

Sounds like the offense had a better outing today especially with Trent and Mike back at their tackle spots. Also it seems like Banks is holding up well so the issue is looking like the usual suspect with the right side of the line more specifically center and guard.

Judging by reports though it sounds like an ideal training camp practice where you have a lot of positive things said about both sides of the ball with some negatives sprinkled in.

Lance was supposed to have a pretty good day with 4 big-time explosive throws with one bad Jimmy G type INT to Fred Warner to drag down his day a bit.

Sounds like Chavrious Ward has been consistently strong since camp which is great news considering how badly we needed a strong starting caliber CB. But even better it sounds like pretty much everyone in the secondary is having a good camp or at worst solid so if that translates into the season the defense could be pretty terrifying this season if it stays healthy.

Because I do believe the secondary really limited Ryans in what he wanted to do last season. He tried to be aggressive early in the season but the secondary just couldn't play that way without constant PI calls so he was forced to back off and be more conservative with his approach which is why the defense played better in the latter half of the season. But we could see a lot more sacks if the secondary allows Ryans to call the more aggressive game that he wants too.

[CrimsonCrew]

Maurice Hurst with a bicep tear. Likely done for the year. Kick in the crotch, for the player and the team. I have always really liked Hurst and was hoping he could make an impact as part of the rotation this year.

[CrimsonCrew]

Re: the OL, it's early yet to freak out, with young players starting. But if center is an issue, it's going to be frustrating. They should have taken Creed Humphrey over Banks last year, and he's already a pro bowl center. Probably could have been the same at guard.

I've discussed how they didn't really have superior options in the draft. There's an argument that West is as good a prospect as anyone they would have drafted from the third round on. But if Brendel can't hold up, we needed to address the position in FA.

[Pattersonca65]

Sounds like Lance is still having accuracy issues

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

DEEBO SAMUEL
WR, SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS

49ers signed Deebo Samuel to a three-year, $71.55 million extension through 2025.

One of the bigger sagas of the offseason ends, as has been expected for months, with a new contract for the star receiver. NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the deal includes $58.1 million guaranteed. The average value of this deal does not match those Davante Adams and Tyreek Hill received earlier this offseason, but it still makes Samuel one of the highest-paid receivers in the league. With his contract situation resolved, Samuel should return to practice this week and slot in as a high-upside WR1 in fantasy drafts.
SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

Jul 31, 2022, 7:43 PM ET

[thesack12]

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For awhile there, it didn't seem like this would get done. I'm glad it did.

That's a massive guarantee. Deebo isn't the pure WR as some of the guys who got paid this offseason, but measuring overall impact his unique skillset Deebo is pretty close to the same caliber of player as those other guys. Deebo, just doesn't have the longevity of sustained high level play.... yet

Now we just got to hope he can stay healthy.

Only thing left now is getting the Garoppolo situation resolved, and we can truly look forward to the 2022 season without distractions.

[Jikkle]

DEEBO SAMUEL
WR, SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS

49ers signed Deebo Samuel to a three-year, $71.55 million extension through 2025.

One of the bigger sagas of the offseason ends, as has been expected for months, with a new contract for the star receiver. NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the deal includes $58.1 million guaranteed. The average value of this deal does not match those Davante Adams and Tyreek Hill received earlier this offseason, but it still makes Samuel one of the highest-paid receivers in the league. With his contract situation resolved, Samuel should return to practice this week and slot in as a high-upside WR1 in fantasy drafts.
SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

Jul 31, 2022, 7:43 PM ET

After seeing DK's deal I figured it'd be pretty similar and happen pretty soon after his. And I'm actually happy it's a 3-year deal because I'm just unsure on how healthy Deebo can stay even if we don't use him as the wide back like we did last season.

Just in time for the first padded practice tomorrow so the offensive personnel will be closer to who will be starting week 1 and hopefully they can build some chemistry going into the season.

[Samurai]

Glad that Deebo and the Niners were able to work it out. Paraag Marathe is an expert at working the numbers and the cap.

[thesack12]

Re: the OL, it's early yet to freak out, with young players starting. But if center is an issue, it's going to be frustrating. They should have taken Creed Humphrey over Banks last year, and he's already a pro bowl center. Probably could have been the same at guard.

I've discussed how they didn't really have superior options in the draft. There's an argument that West is as good a prospect as anyone they would have drafted from the third round on. But if Brendel can't hold up, we needed to address the position in FA.

I don't know about freaking out or panicking, but the O-line was always going to be a massive concern for this team.

McGlinchey coming back helps to a certain extent, but honestly he's not all that good and has always been a liability in pass protection.

Trent Williams is incredible, but he's another year older and showed signs of slowing down late last season. Granted a lot of that was a product of getting dinged up, but constantly being knicked up becomes more of a concern as you get deeper into your 30's as Trent is.

Losing Laken Tomlinson was a big blow, and the replacement options are late round rookies and a sophomore who racked up game day inactives as a rookie despite several injuries along the line.

At center they seem to be relying on a guy that hasn't played a snap in like 3 seasons and never has been a more than a depth guy in his entire career.

Its not a hopeless situation, but it damn sure isn't an inspiring one either. Its pretty safe to say that opposing teams are going to gameplan around attacking that weak right side, and right up the middle until Brendel or someone else proves they can hold their own.

[thesack12]

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With Jimmy being medically cleared, This might be the last domino to fall before the Garoppolo situation gets resolved.

Browns might be waiting on the ruling before submitting a formal offer for Jimmy.

9ers might be waiting on the ruling to find out if the Browns potential offer is better than whatever else they might have on the table from the Giants, Falcons, Texans, whoever.

Perhaps 9ers don't have any offers on the table, and the 9ers were waiting until the Watson ruling and if it comes in shorter than anticipated and the Browns don't make an offer, 9ers might be compelled to just cut Jimmy.

Or the ruling isn't a catalyst for anything to happen and this drags out for another several weeks, as they wait to see if any other QB's get injured.

[thesack12]

Sounds like Lance is still having accuracy issues

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On one hand you could say that this is a terribly concerning performance by the offense. On the other hand you could say that this is quite encouraging looking at it from the defensive perspective as the secondary looks to be drastically improved.

But pulling away the layers of the onion a little bit, I don't think it really says much of anything for either the offense or defense (at least not the 1's of the offense)

As gets frequently discussed the super early, padless portion of training camp usually benefits the defense especially with a very green QB1 at the helm.

Also, offense has been missing their WR1 and the offensive line has been using primarily backups for most of the reps so far.

We are also seeing Sudfeld gets way more reps than he ever has, and Purdy is now getting some as well. Both of those guys are going to drag down the performance of the offense.

Honestly, I really have no damn clue why the 49ers feel like they can enter the season with Suckster Sudfeld as QB2. But apparently that is the plan.

[Jikkle]

Sounds like Lance is still having accuracy issues

Haven't really seen any reports that accuracy has been a massive issue for him.

Doesn't mean he's been pinpoint accurate but it doesn't seem he hasn't been unusually inaccurate either and most I've read is just the typical stuff you would expect from a young guy entering his 1st year as a starter.

Given the amount of mechanical work he needed I thought it was unlikely he was going to be able to clean it all up in one offseason and it'll like take another offseason or two before he hits the ceiling he can go mechanically.

My guess is that Lance will be way better at hitting outside the numbers and explosive plays but probably not quite as good hitting the middle as Jimmy was.

[Jikkle]

Watch on YouTube

Some good footage of yesterday's practice but given that it's a no no to film 11 on 11 you might want to watch it while it's still up.

[Jikkle]

Still can't believe we didn't upgrade the OL. The offense will be interesting this year, I think it will struggle for the first few games at the very least.

Alex Mack’s retirement is really hurting the unit. The right side of the Oline is struggling mightily right now. Jaylon Moore and Spencer Burford are too young and inexperienced.

On the bright side, our secondary will dominate opponents this year. That’s if the unit remains healthy. That’s a big if.

I think they were really planning on Mack playing at least 2 years of his contract and him retiring hurt threw off their plans because they probably wanted to develop a guy this season to take over the spot next season like they did with Banks who at least seems like he's holding up fine.

The fact they are already giving Brunskil 1st team reps at Center isn't boding too well for Brendal or the position in general. Hopefully at least Moore or Burford can man the RG spot and I'm holding out hope once the pads come on one of them will start to come out on top and at least be serviceable.

[Pattersonca65]

Sounds like Lance is still having accuracy issues

Haven't really seen any reports that accuracy has been a massive issue for him.

Doesn't mean he's been pinpoint accurate but it doesn't seem he hasn't been unusually inaccurate either and most I've read is just the typical stuff you would expect from a young guy entering his 1st year as a starter.

Given the amount of mechanical work he needed I thought it was unlikely he was going to be able to clean it all up in one offseason and it'll like take another offseason or two before he hits the ceiling he can go mechanically.

My guess is that Lance will be way better at hitting outside the numbers and explosive plays but probably not quite as good hitting the middle as Jimmy was.

I rezd reoorts he has made great tgrows but when he has been off at times he has been really off with some poor passes

[thesack12]

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Apparently the NFL is likely to appeal, and Goodell has authority to increase the suspension, but its probably pretty unlikely to go more than 8 games. Anything more than that and Watson/NFLPA will appeal which will drag this thing out for who knows much longer.

This should close the door on a potential Garoppolo trade to Cleveland. But perhaps it will spark things to start to head to a resolution.

[thesack12]

Sounds like Lance is still having accuracy issues

Haven't really seen any reports that accuracy has been a massive issue for him.

Doesn't mean he's been pinpoint accurate but it doesn't seem he hasn't been unusually inaccurate either and most I've read is just the typical stuff you would expect from a young guy entering his 1st year as a starter.

Given the amount of mechanical work he needed I thought it was unlikely he was going to be able to clean it all up in one offseason and it'll like take another offseason or two before he hits the ceiling he can go mechanically.

My guess is that Lance will be way better at hitting outside the numbers and explosive plays but probably not quite as good hitting the middle as Jimmy was.

I rezd reoorts he has made great tgrows but when he has been off at times he has been really off with some poor passes

Last I heard Trey is 26/50 so far in camp.

Which obviously isn't good, but some have been drops. And as mentioned earlier there are some other factors in play like primarily playing behind mostly backup O-lineman so far and not having Deebo out there yet.

Regardless accuracy has always been one of, if not the main, concern with Trey. So its not surprising he's been struggling so far after being installed as QB1. Especially since he's still so inexperienced and has not faced very much stiff competition since high school.

Of course we'd all prefer the reports of Trey (and everybody else) be glowing, especially since that is all we have so far. But he has plenty of time to settle in and get more comfortable and start to play better, before things actually start to matter. He just needs to keep working on/improving his ball placement.