R2G3 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 5 7:30pm ET ESPN

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #501 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:43 am

I can't get into offseason plans and ideas just yet. I think we can still take this series, but we're going to have to win game 4 in order to stay in this thing. If we win game 4, maybe we figure something out with them. Atlanta was able to eventually figure them out and I think we can do the same. This is not over yet. James Harden needs to play better, Tyrese Maxey needs to hit some shots, and Embiid needs to stay upright and not get hurt.

76ciology · Post #502 » by **76ciology** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:44 am

DCasey91 wrote:
76ciology wrote:We ended the game shooting better than the Celts in 3s and having more bench pts.

Dude it’s the starting unit. That’s on Doc, he tried Melton but then your are vertically challenged with Harden and Maxey. Those 3 should never be on the court together against the Celtics ffs.

I wonder what the point differential in quarters 2/3 and these last 2 games and the next 2.

Yes, he should have benched Maxey. But where are you going to get your scoring without Harden?

And you can’t bench both Maxey and Harden because you wont have a PG on the floor.

Bum Adebayo · Post #503 » by **Bum Adebayo** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:44 am

Yeah when you play many minutes with Haren and Maxey together, they better offer a lot on the offensive end, because they are going to be a negative on defense.

elchengue20 · Post #504 » by **elchengue20** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:44 am

Huge loser vibes with this team. They just aint going to win when it matters.

76ciology · Post #505 » by **76ciology** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:44 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I can't get into offseason plans and ideas just yet. I think we can still take this series, but we're going to have to win game 4 in order to stay in this thing. If we win game 4, maybe we figure something out with them. Atlanta was able to eventually figure them out and I think we can do the same. This is not over yet. James Harden needs to play better, Tyrese Maxey needs to hit some shots, and Embiid needs to stay upright and not get hurt.

Yes, i think this series is still early. But this performance is very concerning.

Murray_17 · Post #506 » by **Murray_17** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:44 am

Iverson Armband wrote:What adjustment? Let’s hear it, coach.

Harden & Maxey in particular sucked ass. Period. We’re short and slow, they’re tall and fast. There’s no coaching around that.

Take the ball out of Harden's hands sooner than the fourth quarter to begin? sub PJ more often so the paint isn't packed on drives? Try with McDaniels more often so we don't lose size with Tobias in foul trouble?

Like, at least throw stuff at the wall for desperation, i don't know.

FireMorey · Post #507 » by **FireMorey** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:46 am

elchengue20 wrote:Huge loser vibes with this team. They just aint going to win when it matters.

Morey build the team around a player who is notorious for having playoff loser energy.

He chose to build the team more around Harden than Embiid. Let Harden dictate the offseason signings.

76ciology · Post #508 » by **76ciology** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:46 am

Bum Adebayo wrote:Yeah when you play many minutes with Haren and Maxey together, they better offer a lot on the offensive end, because they are going to be a negative on defense.

Exactly!

And if both guys aren’t making shots then..

You got 2 liabilities on offense who are too short and unathletic on defense.

So what happens is you keep missing and Celts can just push the pace, drive and dish with you not being able to rotate to the shooters

DCasey91 · Post #509 » by **DCasey91** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:47 am

Play Reed on Tatum and Brown. I seriously cannot see a reason why he isn’t the best option against both.

Tucker had a pulse this game offensively but seriously it’s not hard picking apart Harris, Harden, Maxey and Tucker

They can all go imo. Vertically challenged, Harris is not mobile

Look at Hart seriously next season and other better options.

We’ve consistently never grind out game wins which the Celtics did today. It’s a brilliant game from someone or bust.

Iverson Armband · Post #510 » by **Iverson Armband** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:48 am

Murray_17 wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:What adjustment? Let’s hear it, coach.

Harden & Maxey in particular sucked ass. Period. We’re short and slow, they’re tall and fast. There’s no coaching around that.

Take the ball out of Harden's hands sooner than the fourth quarter to begin? sub PJ more often so the paint isn't packed on drives? Try with McDaniels more often so we don't lose size with Tobias in foul trouble?

Like, at least throw stuff at the wall for desperation, i don't know.

And put the ball in who’s hands? Maxey? He SUCKED and was scared chitless. Sub PJ? Of all games, when he’s actually hitting 3s and the only guy hustling for rebounds when we’re constantly getting out hustled for boards? Yeah, thank God you aren’t the coach.

Mik317 · Post #511 » by **Mik317** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:51 am

This is the end result of deciding that Hardens washed friends was the answer because they occasionally yell at people instead of getting athletes and real shooters

This past offseason was terrible and I want to float so bad but I am too buttmad to do so lol

Mik317 · Post #512 » by **Mik317** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:53 am

At least we didn’t get quallude sad boi Biid

That’s probably next game tho

Murray_17 · Post #513 » by **Murray_17** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:53 am

Iverson Armband wrote:And put the ball in who’s hands? Maxey? He SUCKED. Sub PJ? Of all games, when he’s actually hitting 3s and the only guy hustling for rebounds when we’re constantly getting out hustled for boards? Yeah, thank God you aren’t the coach.

Maxey on the ball actually brought us back in the first quarter and made the ball move more because at least he got faster to a Embiid ISO than Harden bringing the ball up and driving without knowing what to do once he got to the paint, he being stuck in the paint also took Embiid out of the play.

Maxey sucked, yes, but i don't want him on ball to take shots, i want him on ball because that gets to a Embiid possession faster.

PJ had one rebound dude and yeah, he got 4 shots while open the entire game because Boston was sagging off him. They aren't respecting him and he's not getting guarded until he hit shots which he did only after the first half.

I like PJ, i have defended him the entire season. He's gonna be open this entire series, doc needs to do something with that and if he can't then PJ needs to be subbed. It's not that difficult.

DCasey91 · Post #514 » by **DCasey91** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:55 am

Kobble might be right, if you wanted a potentially better Maxey then call up the Nets FO and ask how much for Cam Thomas. The main difference between the two he has zero conscious and has never seen a shot he didn’t like.

Bloody Kings got a taller Maxey in Monk for peanuts.

Arsenal · Post #515 » by **Arsenal** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:56 am

I think it's pretty clear that Boston is the better team. We need to make up for that with superior effort and some luck to have a chance. Didn't see that tonight as we got outhustled for loose balls and rebounds again.

Plus Harden needs to not be terrible. I assume we'll get one more good game out of him, which won't be enough.

Murray_17 · Post #516 » by **Murray_17** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:56 am

I also love Reed but if the Celtics are sagging off PJ what do you think they're gonna make with Reed?

76ciology · Post #517 » by **76ciology** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:56 am

Anyway, the right thing to do here is to start Melton over Maxey. This way you wont trail to start the game.

Then have Maxey sub Harden, where you dont risk to have two liabilities on both ends on the floor.

Then you adjust accordingly on how well they’re playing.

The problem is Maxey is a sad boi who does not want to be benched. So I dont know how it will work. Maybe if he self destructs, then you play Shake where atleast shake is reliable to shoot and has to the length to play defense?

Bum Adebayo · Post #518 » by **Bum Adebayo** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:56 am

I keep saying Celtics is a nightmare match up, but then again we lose against Hawks or Heat in second round too, it doesn't seem to matter lol

ankle420breaker · Post #519 » by **ankle420breaker** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:57 am

Not much has changed since I've been born. Boston remains superior on every level (ownership, senior management, general management, coaching, coaching development, scouting, player development, etc). Even more so, they seamlessly institute their culture into every player they bring in and figure out how to maximize their impact within whatever rotational role they play (regardless of how large or small). We're one of the signature franchises in the NBA, and we do nothing to foster that level of passion. I'm approaching 40, and our hierarchy hasn't matched their playoff intensity in my lifetime.

Doc's a decent coach, but I'm pretty sure we collectively knew after last season he wasn't going to get us through any finish lines. We'll fire him after we inevitably lose, but it'll be too late. Zero accountability for ownership. If only we had a Jimmy Butler kind of guy in this series.

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76ciology · Post #520 » by **76ciology** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:58 am

DCasey91 wrote:Kobble might be right, if you wanted a potentially better Maxey then call up the Nets FO and ask how much for Cam Thomas. The main difference between the two he has zero conscious and has never seen a shot he didn’t like.

Bloody Kings got a taller Maxey in Monk for peanuts.

Cam also draws a ton of fouls unlike Maxey.

And Cam does not need gravity to blow past his man to collapse the defense.

Cam can have that Houston Harden in G1 performance in higher frequency than Maxey.