PG: KNICKS vs Wemby - The Mikal Christmas Show!!!

[stuporman]

If Thibs starts OG on Wemby from opening tip like some people think he should have, refs do their typical thing and so OG is sitting with 5 fouls in the 4th as Wemby has free reign to take over the game and win it as fans on this forum criticize Thibs for his game plan. Tell me I'm wrong, go ahead, I like to laugh.

OG is taking the teams' toughest assignments on a nightly basis....and yet, How many times has OG fouled out this season and who was he guarding?

In fact how many times has OG even reached 5 fouls in his 30 games this season ? Please tell me.

By saying he and KAT will get the same results is basically implying that KAT and OG are equal defensively; They both will instantly foul out

Even if OG picks up his 5th foul with 6 minutes left in the 4th, what kind of impact would he have had on Wemby up until that moment? Would it not be worth it if Wemby only has 21 points, 6 or more turnovers, is frustrated and out of rhythm, KAT is still available to play, and the Knicks are up by 15 points??....

That's the OG effect....he's the best defender in the league he's rarely in foul trouble. He's averaging 2.5 fouls per game.

That is a better strategy than giving Wemby BBQ chicken, hanging KAT out to dry all game, and relying on a Mikal miracle to rescue us from a 5 point deficit with 6 minutes left.

Thibs game plan won the game while you are posting from your head couching position.

Thibs game plan >>> your game plan.

[stuporman]

I can see why buzz enjoys trolling the forum so much but I have to admit it's so much better when you say things that people don't recognize as sarcasm and they reply as if it's completely serious.

[Jeff Van Gully]

hope everybody had a merry christmas. we having mikal jordan conversations yet?

Waiting until he has two 50+ point games like Allan Houston did in '03!

MJ Bridges?

[Iron Mantis]

If Thibs starts OG on Wemby from opening tip like some people think he should have, refs do their typical thing and so OG is sitting with 5 fouls in the 4th as Wemby has free reign to take over the game and win it as fans on this forum criticize Thibs for his game plan. Tell me I'm wrong, go ahead, I like to laugh.

OG is taking the teams' toughest assignments on a nightly basis....and yet, How many times has OG fouled out this season and who was he guarding?

In fact how many times has OG even reached 5 fouls in his 30 games this season ? Please tell me.

By saying he and KAT will get the same results is basically implying that KAT and OG are equal defensively; They both will instantly foul out

Even if OG picks up his 5th foul with 6 minutes left in the 4th, what kind of impact would he have had on Wemby up until that moment? Would it not be worth it if Wemby only has 21 points, 6 or more turnovers, is frustrated and out of rhythm, KAT is still available to play, and the Knicks are up by 15 points??....

That's the OG effect....he's the best defender in the league he's rarely in foul trouble. He's averaging 2.5 fouls per game.

That is a better strategy than giving Wemby BBQ chicken, hanging KAT out to dry all game, and relying on a Mikal miracle to rescue us from a 5 point deficit with 6 minutes left.

Thibs game plan won the game while you are posting from your head couching position.

Thibs game plan >>> your game plan.

Mikal's heroics>>>>>Thibs lack of a plan

And how dare you.... I'm no mere "head couch"...

I'm a RealGM

[stuporman]

OG is taking the teams' toughest assignments on a nightly basis....and yet, How many times has OG fouled out this season and who was he guarding?

In fact how many times has OG even reached 5 fouls in his 30 games this season ? Please tell me.

By saying he and KAT will get the same results is basically implying that KAT and OG are equal defensively; They both will instantly foul out

Even if OG picks up his 5th foul with 6 minutes left in the 4th, what kind of impact would he have had on Wemby up until that moment? Would it not be worth it if Wemby only has 21 points, 6 or more turnovers, is frustrated and out of rhythm, KAT is still available to play, and the Knicks are up by 15 points??....

That's the OG effect....he's the best defender in the league he's rarely in foul trouble. He's averaging 2.5 fouls per game.

That is a better strategy than giving Wemby BBQ chicken, hanging KAT out to dry all game, and relying on a Mikal miracle to rescue us from a 5 point deficit with 6 minutes left.

Thibs game plan won the game while you are posting from your head couching position.

Thibs game plan >>> your game plan.

Mikal's heroics>>>>>Thibs lack of a plan

And how dare you.... I'm no mere "head couch"...

I'm a RealGM

Oh sure, player after player in interviews say Thibs has them more prepared for games than any coach they've ever had filled with schemes and plans with counter plans and even more plans for every situation but you from your head couching position think he lacking plans.

What players tell us about Thibs >>> what you say about Thibs

[Iron Mantis]

Thibs game plan won the game while you are posting from your head couching position.

Thibs game plan >>> your game plan.

Mikal's heroics>>>>>Thibs lack of a plan

And how dare you.... I'm no mere "head couch"...

I'm a RealGM

Oh sure, player after player in interviews say Thibs has them more prepared for games than any coach they've ever had filled with schemes and plans with counter plans and even more plans for every situation but you from your head couching position think he lacking plans.

What players tell us about Thibs >>> what you say about Thibs

We get it.

In your eyes, Tom Thibodeau only deserves unquestioning worship. Every coaching decision he makes is divinely ordained, so when the team wins despite any perceived mistakes he's made, there were no mistakes...all along it was part of his plan.

In your eyes, he's the pinnacle of perfect coaching, the GOAT coach with multiple rings and above any objective criticism whatsoever. Thou shall not imply there's any room for improvement in his coaching. We get it. Ok.

[jvsimonetti0514]

Watched the last 6 mins again right now. Spurs didn’t even really work the ball to Wemby and he didn’t even try to go get it either. OG and precious defended one shot a piece. OG had a Catch and shoot 3 to defend and precious had to defend a pull up jumper. Dont get me wrong both of those shots were well defended but It certainly didn’t look like how OG had to guard Embiid down the stretch of those playoffs games. Wemby did make it rain but he was at his best when he was on the move and attacking Kat. He kinda stopped doing that. Which makes me wonder if Wemby needs avocados to protect against anemia more so than anything the our defenders did to slow him down.

[Clyde_Style]

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[stuporman]

Mikal's heroics>>>>>Thibs lack of a plan

And how dare you.... I'm no mere "head couch"...

I'm a RealGM

Oh sure, player after player in interviews say Thibs has them more prepared for games than any coach they've ever had filled with schemes and plans with counter plans and even more plans for every situation but you from your head couching position think he lacking plans.

What players tell us about Thibs >>> what you say about Thibs

We get it.

In your eyes, Tom Thibodeau only deserves unquestioning worship. Every coaching decision he makes is divinely ordained, so when the team wins despite any perceived mistakes he's made, there were no mistakes...all along it was part of his plan.

In your eyes, he's the pinnacle of perfect coaching, the GOAT coach with multiple rings and above any objective criticism whatsoever. Thou shall not imply there's any room for improvement in his coaching. We get it. Ok.

No, you don't get it. I'm not saying or even implying any of that.

I've said what I did because I'm just messing with brainlets who seem to think one of the most prepared coaches as told by many of the players that played for him didn't even think about putting OG on Wemby before 6mins left in the 4th quarter. Nope, never even crossed his mind.

People are deluded to actually say such thing in public and be taken seriously. I gleefully poke fun at them and if you be one of them, then you my friend, deserve to be exposed for it.

So I have been saying all the these things to drag such confused souls into my snare like the moth to flame. You couldn't help but respond because apparently, even when I explicitely say what I'm doing you don't get it, not even close to get it. Wow, did you really not 'get it'?

[Clyde_Style]

when wemby is at a weight where he doesn’t have to take 16 threes , it will be a scary day

what an absolute stud

God help us all when he grows into his Giannis body

I'm wondering now what effect Mitch would have on Wemby

[Iron Mantis]

Oh sure, player after player in interviews say Thibs has them more prepared for games than any coach they've ever had filled with schemes and plans with counter plans and even more plans for every situation but you from your head couching position think he lacking plans.

What players tell us about Thibs >>> what you say about Thibs

We get it.

In your eyes, Tom Thibodeau only deserves unquestioning worship. Every coaching decision he makes is divinely ordained, so when the team wins despite any perceived mistakes he's made, there were no mistakes...all along it was part of his plan.

In your eyes, he's the pinnacle of perfect coaching, the GOAT coach with multiple rings and above any objective criticism whatsoever. Thou shall not imply there's any room for improvement in his coaching. We get it. Ok.

No, you don't get it. I'm not saying or even implying any of that.

I've said what I did because I'm just messing with brainlets who seem to think one of the most prepared coaches as told by many of the players that played for him didn't even think about putting OG on Wemby before 6mins left in the 4th quarter. Nope, never even crossed his mind.

People are deluded to actually say such thing in public and be taken seriously. I gleefully poke fun at them and if you be one of them, then you my friend, deserve to be exposed for it.

So I have been saying all the these things to drag such confused souls into my snare like the moth to flame. You couldn't help but respond because apparently, even when I explicitely say what I'm doing you don't get it, not even close to get it. Wow, did you really not 'get it'?

In your "mind" all of that sounds cool.

But it actually sounds like a desperate cry for help. Like maybe you have some deep-seated childhood issues you still haven't gotten worked out or something...

Seek professional help. Mental health is serious.

On that note, I'm going to excuse myself from this exchange now.........bye bye

[Fat Kat]

when wemby is at a weight where he doesn’t have to take 16 threes , it will be a scary day

what an absolute stud

God help us all when he grows into his Giannis body

I'm wondering now what effect Mitch would have on Wemby

Prime Mitch could stay in front of Wemby and block/bother his 3-point attempts. Problem would be on defense, Wemby would be free to guard the paint, making it a nightmare for anyone driving to the basket.

Don’t know if we’ll ever see that prime Mitch again though.

[Juco24]

God help us all when he grows into his Giannis body

I'm wondering now what effect Mitch would have on Wemby

Prime Mitch could stay in front of Wemby and block/bother his 3-point attempts. Problem would be on defense, Wemby would be free to guard the paint, making it a nightmare for anyone driving to the basket.

Don’t know if we’ll ever see that prime Mitch again though.

During the 1st meeting @ MSG last year, Mitch made Wembitch look mortal

[HerSports85]

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This doosh really screwed himself to infinity

lol forgot about this lame

[stuporman]

We get it.

In your eyes, Tom Thibodeau only deserves unquestioning worship. Every coaching decision he makes is divinely ordained, so when the team wins despite any perceived mistakes he's made, there were no mistakes...all along it was part of his plan.

In your eyes, he's the pinnacle of perfect coaching, the GOAT coach with multiple rings and above any objective criticism whatsoever. Thou shall not imply there's any room for improvement in his coaching. We get it. Ok.

No, you don't get it. I'm not saying or even implying any of that.

I've said what I did because I'm just messing with brainlets who seem to think one of the most prepared coaches as told by many of the players that played for him didn't even think about putting OG on Wemby before 6mins left in the 4th quarter. Nope, never even crossed his mind.

People are deluded to actually say such thing in public and be taken seriously. I gleefully poke fun at them and if you be one of them, then you my friend, deserve to be exposed for it.

So I have been saying all the these things to drag such confused souls into my snare like the moth to flame. You couldn't help but respond because apparently, even when I explicitely say what I'm doing you don't get it, not even close to get it. Wow, did you really not 'get it'?

In your "mind" all of that sounds cool.

But it actually sounds like a desperate cry for help. Like maybe you have some deep-seated childhood issues you still haven't gotten worked out or something...

Seek professional help. Mental health is serious.

On that note, I'm going to excuse myself from this exchange now.........bye bye

You still don't get it but clearly have been gotten

[NoDopeOnSundays]

If Thibs starts OG on Wemby from opening tip like some people think he should have, refs do their typical thing and so OG is sitting with 5 fouls in the 4th as Wemby has free reign to take over the game and win it as fans on this forum criticize Thibs for his game plan. Tell me I'm wrong, go ahead, I like to laugh.

I'm not sure why you're so against using a wing on him, the guys who have defended him the most in the NBA are Brooks and Grant, both did a better job than KAT did. In his matchup yesterday only Alexander Sarr has given up more ppg than KAT in matchup minutes vs Victor. The absolute best way to defend him is with a wing/forward, while your center defends Sochan, the Thunder did it to him and he didn't even get a shot off against Jalen Williams in 21 possessions.


Are you implying that Grant and Brooks are better and more disciplined defenders than OG?

I'm not against having a wing defend him but what Thibs did in waiting until late to make the switch and catch Wemby off guard is what helped win the game. Good game plan.

So you're comparing what a historic level defense and really the top two defenses in the league were able to do in contrast to the Knicks middle of the pack defense? Weird but ok.

Why are you using the Trailblazers as an example, they've lost to the Spurs 3 times already this season. I like my teams to win against them, not hyper fixated on the statlines of some players.

Wemby could have scored 75 points and as long as the Knicks win idgaf about that.

He didn't make that switch because of strategy, he did it because KAT got 5 fouls. The correct play would have been to take KAT off him when he had 4 fouls, it made no sense to leave him in there on Victor because he couldn't be aggressive in the first place, so why not protect him by putting him on the worse offensive player.


The Thunder are a historic defense that does things outside the box, they don't just blanket guard your center with their center. In that game Chet was guarding Sochan, while Jalen Williams was on Victor, he's 6'6". Why not take a page out of the book of "historic defenses" that works, considering we have the personnel to pull it off. I'll ask again, are Grant and Brooks better and more disciplined defenders than OG? Why do you assume he'd get in foul trouble when other wings have been successful against him.


Using wins against the Blazers is ridiculous, Grant did a better job against Victor than KAT did, taking what was successful by someone else and building on it is what great teams do. Victor has scored 40 and 42 in his last 2 games against us, he may just get 75 next time with the way things are trending.

[HarthorneWingo]

Watched the last 6 mins again right now. Spurs didn’t even really work the ball to Wemby and he didn’t even try to go get it either. OG and precious defended one shot a piece. OG had a Catch and shoot 3 to defend and precious had to defend a pull up jumper. Dont get me wrong both of those shots were well defended but It certainly didn’t look like how OG had to guard Embiid down the stretch of those playoffs games. Wemby did make it rain but he was at his best when he was on the move and attacking Kat. He kinda stopped doing that. Which makes me wonder if Wemby needs avocados to protect against anemia more so than anything the our defenders did to slow him down.

The guy’s a problem. And he’s gong to get better as he gets stronger and more experienced. If he develops a strong post game, good Lord.

[spree2kawhi]

Al this talk about defending this 7'5" Phenon who has the nba and refs in his back pocket....seems like a losing battle either way to me. If we just shoot what we normally do from 3 we blow that team out of the water...so I think Thibs should focus on that.

Just don’t get too used to this type of overall efficiency. I think that’s unfair.

Im not used to it....I actually think it's going to get better.

[Iron Mantis]

I'm not sure why you're so against using a wing on him, the guys who have defended him the most in the NBA are Brooks and Grant, both did a better job than KAT did. In his matchup yesterday only Alexander Sarr has given up more ppg than KAT in matchup minutes vs Victor. The absolute best way to defend him is with a wing/forward, while your center defends Sochan, the Thunder did it to him and he didn't even get a shot off against Jalen Williams in 21 possessions.


Are you implying that Grant and Brooks are better and more disciplined defenders than OG?

I'm not against having a wing defend him but what Thibs did in waiting until late to make the switch and catch Wemby off guard is what helped win the game. Good game plan.

So you're comparing what a historic level defense and really the top two defenses in the league were able to do in contrast to the Knicks middle of the pack defense? Weird but ok.

Why are you using the Trailblazers as an example, they've lost to the Spurs 3 times already this season. I like my teams to win against them, not hyper fixated on the statlines of some players.

Wemby could have scored 75 points and as long as the Knicks win idgaf about that.

He didn't make that switch because of strategy, he did it because KAT got 5 fouls. The correct play would have been to take KAT off him when he had 4 fouls, it made no sense to leave him in there on Victor because he couldn't be aggressive in the first place, so why not protect him by putting him on the worse offensive player.


The Thunder are a historic defense that does things outside the box, they don't just blanket guard your center with their center. In that game Chet was guarding Sochan, while Jalen Williams was on Victor, he's 6'6". Why not take a page out of the book of "historic defenses" that works, considering we have the personnel to pull it off. I'll ask again, are Grant and Brooks better and more disciplined defenders than OG? Why do you assume he'd get in foul trouble when other wings have been successful against him.


Using wins against the Blazers is ridiculous, Grant did a better job against Victor than KAT did, taking what was successful by someone else and building on it is what great teams do. Victor has scored 40 and 42 in his last 2 games against us, he may just get 75 next time with the way things are trending.

Mikal Bridges agrees with you. OG should have been guarding him sooner.

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[Reign23]

Bro are you 12

unfortunately not. turned 38 today

happy born day dawg

Bro are you 12

unfortunately not. turned 38 today

Happy 13th sorry 38th birthday

Have a nice day man enjoy it

thx homies