2025 General Draft Discussion 2

JustBuzzin · Post #501 » by **JustBuzzin** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 10:32 pm

Kon makes sense on a playoff team he's a guy who can start or come off the bench and fit in as a role player. He's gonna get exposed on a lesser team with not much talent. Unfortunately we don't fit with Kon at this moment. It would be a bad pick on our end not because he's not good, but he's not good enough to raise the talent level of our team. We need someone who has star potential and high ceiling. Only Ace and VJ fit that category imo.

KingCat · Post #502 » by **KingCat** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 10:38 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:Kon makes sense on a playoff team he's a guy who can start or come off the bench and fit in as a role player. He's gonna get exposed on a lesser team with not much talent. Unfortunately we don't fit with Kon at this moment. It would be a bad pick on our end not because he's not good, but he's not good enough to raise the talent level of our team. We need someone who has star potential and high ceiling. Only Ace and VJ fit that category imo.

Drafting Kon tells me our FO has way too much faith in our current core.

Look i Iove Melo, Miller, Mark. That is a good strong core in a vaccum, but they can't stay on the court and have noticeable holes in their game that aren't guaranteed to develop, specially on the defensive end.

This franchise isn't a roleplayer "connective piece" away from upward progress. We are still in the "collect as much talent as possible and figure out the rest later" phase

Braggins · Post #503 » by **Braggins** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 10:47 pm

I kind of have a feeling Tre Johnson will go 3rd if the Ace drop is real.

JustBuzzin · Post #504 » by **JustBuzzin** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 11:06 pm

KingCat wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Kon makes sense on a playoff team he's a guy who can start or come off the bench and fit in as a role player. He's gonna get exposed on a lesser team with not much talent. Unfortunately we don't fit with Kon at this moment. It would be a bad pick on our end not because he's not good, but he's not good enough to raise the talent level of our team. We need someone who has star potential and high ceiling. Only Ace and VJ fit that category imo.

Drafting Kon tells me our FO has way too much faith in our current core.

Look i Iove Melo, Miller, Mark. That is a good strong core in a vaccum, but they can't stay on the court and have noticeable holes in their game that aren't guaranteed to develop, specially on the defensive end.

This franchise isn't a roleplayer "connective piece" away from upward progress. We are still in the "collect as much talent as possible and figure out the rest later" phase

Agreed.

Post #505 » by **fatlever** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 11:07 pm

my latest hornets specific big board as of jun 21

flagg
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harper
----
vj
tre
kon
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ace
----
jaku
maluach
queen
fears
----
cmb
bryant

Post #506 » by **fatlever** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 11:07 pm

draft either vj or tre... call it a night

Braggins · Post #507 » by **Braggins** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 11:15 pm

My vibes board would be something like this

Cooper Flagg
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Dylan Harper
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VJ Edgecombe
Ace Bailey
Kasparas Jakucionis
Tre Johnson
Jeremiah Fears
Egor Demin
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Thomas Sorber
Kon Knueppel

MasterIchiro · Post #508 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 11:18 pm

I will be happy as long as we don't pick VJ or Kon or some random riser like Salaün.

GiggitySmalls · Post #509 » by **GiggitySmalls** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 11:39 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:Please don't draft Kon. Please Mr. Peterson don't do it!

I think he will be a good pro, but we just need something more than Kon. He is skilled but lacks upside. Tre, ace, have all-star potential. I don't see a path for Kon. I wouldn't hate the pick like last year, where I raged out on here, but I would just be underwhelmed.

GiggitySmalls · Post #510 » by **GiggitySmalls** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 11:41 pm

My board looks something like

flagg
harper
vj
tre
fears
ace
kon
jaku

GiggitySmalls · Post #511 » by **GiggitySmalls** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 11:56 pm

What is something that would make you lose your mind on draft night? For anyone reading this. Mine would be if Ace goes 3 and we don't take VJ but Kon or Maluach instead. I would be cool with Tre and maybe Fears, but not the Dukies.

MasterIchiro · Post #512 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sat Jun 21, 2025 11:59 pm

My board:

Harper
Flagg
Fears
Ace
Tre

Jakucionis
VJ

Do I have to name more than 7 dudes?

I refuse.

Post #513 » by **yosemiteben** » Sun Jun 22, 2025 12:14 am

Someone give me a mid to late 20s trade up candidate to be pulling for

GiggitySmalls · Post #514 » by **GiggitySmalls** » Sun Jun 22, 2025 12:18 am

yosemiteben wrote:Someone give me a mid to late 20s trade up candidate to be pulling for

Flemming and Sorber, I've seen mocked in those areas, if they seem more like teens' picks, I would go with Raynaud and Clayton

KembaWalker · Post #515 » by **KembaWalker** » Sun Jun 22, 2025 12:19 am

GiggitySmalls wrote:What is something that would make you lose your mind on draft night? For anyone reading this. Mine would be if Ace goes 3 and we don't take VJ but Kon or Maluach instead. I would be cool with Tre and maybe Fears, but not the Dukies.

I’m team anyone but Kon. I’d rather draft a bust than a role player ceiling guy. Worst case scenario

GiggitySmalls · Post #516 » by **GiggitySmalls** » Sun Jun 22, 2025 12:25 am

KembaWalker wrote:
GiggitySmalls wrote:What is something that would make you lose your mind on draft night? For anyone reading this. Mine would be if Ace goes 3 and we don't take VJ but Kon or Maluach instead. I would be cool with Tre and maybe Fears, but not the Dukies.

I’m team anyone but Kon. I’d rather draft a bust than a role player ceiling guy. Worst case scenario

I feel you, man. Kon screams 11 through 18 type of talent to me.

GiggitySmalls · Post #517 » by **GiggitySmalls** » Sun Jun 22, 2025 12:37 am

My ideal draft is we somehow luck into VJ and end up moving back into the first with our 2nds for Flemming, Sorber, or Raynaud.

EmpireFalls · Post #518 » by **EmpireFalls** » Sun Jun 22, 2025 12:44 am

GiggitySmalls wrote:What is something that would make you lose your mind on draft night? For anyone reading this. Mine would be if Ace goes 3 and we don't take VJ but Kon or Maluach instead. I would be cool with Tre and maybe Fears, but not the Dukies.

Maluach would be the worst case scenario. If we actually took him I think it would be the worst pick possible. I’d genuinely rather pick 25 other players before him.

Salaun 2.0. I would check out of watching Hornets basketball for the next few years quite honestly.

GiggitySmalls · Post #519 » by **GiggitySmalls** » Sun Jun 22, 2025 12:46 am

EmpireFalls wrote:
GiggitySmalls wrote:What is something that would make you lose your mind on draft night? For anyone reading this. Mine would be if Ace goes 3 and we don't take VJ but Kon or Maluach instead. I would be cool with Tre and maybe Fears, but not the Dukies.

Maluach would legitimately be the worst case scenario.

Salaun 2.0. I would check out of watching Hornets basketball for the next few years quite honestly.

Yeah he's far worse than Kon. That would be an absolute disaster.

vorbis · Post #520 » by **vorbis** » Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:02 am

the more I think about it the more I'm like just take the player you like best at 4 and call it a day. trading down seems like galaxy brain overthinking and this current group heading player acquisition hasn't shown anything in particular that makes me think they could outsmart a trade partner, or even get the right players.

I like Ace Bailey and Tre Johnson the best. VJ Edgecombe looks like he has talent, but I don't immediately see how all his talents will manifest in the NBA in a way that makes him an impact starter. and I don't know that we can count on significant development with where the Hornets are right now.