LaMelo Traded to Minnesota

[amcoolio]

I can see it if you got Wagler, Acuff, Burries in the draft. Makes no sense. Are you telling me the Kings wouldn't have taken LaMelo for 7, or the Nets for 6? They absolutely would have. Just a strange, disappointing decision and as of right now they are a bottom 7 team in the NBA - I honestly think the Bucks have more talent than us right now and they were putrid last year

[vexco]

Are you telling me the Kings wouldn't have taken LaMelo for 7, or the Nets for 6? They absolutely would have.

They wouldn't have. Like it wouldn't even be a conversation.

[fatlever]

im not sure i believe gobert was on the table

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[GiggitySmalls]

The only way this trade makes sense is if we trade for Steph

Trade all our assests for a 37 to 38 year old steph? Thats dumb. Quit being a homer.

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Brother youve typed multiple times today about having Kon come off the bench for Trey **** Murphy. Relax on calling anyone elses hopes and dreams dumb.

Yeah 2 big wings who 20+ ppg scorers and a super 6th man is way crazier then putting the future in a 38 year old stephs hands. Kons great but hes reddick on creatine.

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[JDR720]

I mean, I'd take Naz over Gobert too if we're factoring in contracts. But yeah, there is no way the Wolves were trading Gobert, he's their only proven big.

[Braggins]

Gobert is a lot better than Naz, but his timeline doesn't fit the Hornets very well which would limit how much I would be willing to trade for him to the point where I just wouldn't bother.

[Braggins]

The thought of LaMelo driving in Minnesota winter conditions is terrifying.

[amcoolio]

I think the team really did not want to pay him an AAV of 60 million a year, this is what it boils down to

[Goodecharlotte]

I was shocked as everyone else when news came out of Lamelo's trade, but thinking on it now we've sold when his stock was high after a season when he was healthy all season. However you never know when his next injury is and his stock will fall. I will miss the showman ship but not the maturity

[MPM]

"Tim MacMahon: "It was almost unanimously that the Charlotte Hornets were the biggest winner. There is a lot of respect for Tim Connelly. People call him a riverboat gambler. I had some people say I didn't like the Rudy Gobert deal, and that worked out great for the Timberwolves. So, with those caveats, the almost consensus opinion of the people I talked to around the league was LaMelo Ball had next to no value a year ago. Jeff Peterson, the Charlotte Hornets general manager, cleaned him up and as soon as he had value, pounced on the opportunity to move him.""

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[amcoolio]

Are you telling me the Kings wouldn't have taken LaMelo for 7, or the Nets for 6? They absolutely would have.

They wouldn't have. Like it wouldn't even be a conversation.

I think both absolutely would have. Maybe 18 + LaMelo for 6 or 7, that is something the Nets would jump on in a heartbeat.

[Chapelchilla]

I think the team really did not want to pay him an AAV of 60 million a year, this is what it boils down to

Nor should they

[Chapelchilla]

Are you telling me the Kings wouldn't have taken LaMelo for 7, or the Nets for 6? They absolutely would have.

They wouldn't have. Like it wouldn't even be a conversation.

I think both absolutely would have. Maybe 18 + LaMelo for 6 or 7, that is something the Nets would jump on in a heartbeat.

I don't think there is a chance in hell that teams were giving up a top 8 pick in this draft to pay Lamelo a 60 million extension instead of drafting a highly rated PG with no injuries instead. I get that we all saw the highlight plays and know what healthy Melo can do on his good nights, but it seems clear that some people are being blinded by the good side and not remembering the inconsistency, injuries, inability to drive to basket and immaturity factors involved in paying out that kinda $. The Opportunity cost is a big factor with todays cap penalties.

[NMBSurfin]

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[fatlever]

the almost consensus opinion of the people I talked to around the league was LaMelo Ball had next to no value a year ago. Jeff Peterson, the Charlotte Hornets general manager, cleaned him up and as soon as he had value, pounced on the opportunity to move him.

Yeah I mean that's exactly what happened. They would have treated him last summer if they could have gotten anything of value. They probably would have had to have attached assets to move him last summer. They wrapped him in bubble wrap, rebuilt some of his trade value and bailed the first chance they got.

And if they really had zero confidence in his ability to stay healthy and had no interest in tacking on an extra two years to that contract this summer when he was extension eligible, Then I certainly understand the move from that point. It doesn't make it any less **** from a basketball standpoint as a fan especially when we saw what this team could look like when he was 80% healthy.

kon Is fantastic as a 3rd option floor spacer. I probably have much less confidence in Brandon Miller than the majority of the board. He's certainly not someone that I would build my team around. I'd like to think injuries are the only thing that is plateaued his development the last few years so we'll see what he looks like this time next year. I really hate that he has to miss this entire offseason with the shoulder surgery.

[Braggins]

I think Peterson is arrogant and wants the team to be "his" more than he wants it to be good. Two offseasons in a row hes kneecapped the team with trades when the reality was pointing towards them needing to make a push forward.

For the first half of last season most of the board was convinced they were purposely tanking. That was my assumption after the Mark Williams trade. I think most people were hoping for a consolation trade to upgrade the roster and push for the playoffs but they went in the opposite direction. They still messed around and won 44 games and were a game away from making the playoffs. I think nearly everyone on here was in agreement that they were poised to make a push forward this offseason, but again they go in the opposite direction even harder.

I think the vast majority who were ready to push forward were aligned with what was actually happening on the court. I think Peterson is the one who is misreading the situation.

[vorbis]

I think part of my consternation at the initial trade was cope/mourning over the final tally of LaMelo's diminished value. I knew he wasn't your average max player in terms of trade value but I wanted more than a 6th man and some magic beans in return. but I am finding the idea that Peterson traded him while he still had value to be persuasive.

[Chapelchilla]

I mean every “expert” trade grader has us winning the deal but our fond memories of Melos exciting times are clouding the equation for Hornets fans

[Braggins]

People are talking themselves into this like they talk themselves into draft picks they initially don't like.

The upside of the trade package they got is not nearly as high as just keeping one of the most elite offensive weapons in the league. I think the idea that they just had to make this trade now while LaMelo finally had some value is completely whack. They didn't have to do anything. Things were trending in a positive direction for the team and LaMelo.

They should not have been entertaining trading LaMelo unless someone offered them a great deal for him. This was not that.

[SWedd523]

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Hornets will almost unquestionably be worse than the Wolves over that span so the right to swap picks have very little value