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Post#541 » by Snidely FC » Mon May 6, 2013 11:00 am

Love Hendo. But you draft McLemore and sign Dunleavy or Francisco Garcia, who was a revelation as a 3&D guy in the OKC series, and you get 2 for the price of 1 for what Hendo probably wants to get paid. Sorry Hendo.
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Post#542 » by KembaWalker » Mon May 6, 2013 11:11 am

if he leaves I think he will be in for a rough year, like DJ this year. But Hendo will have it worse with his style of play. No teams other than us are gonna let him take his Kobe fadeaway midrange shots all game.
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Post#543 » by Kembastockton » Mon May 6, 2013 3:35 pm

One of the reasons I have been talking McLemore so much is because he fits the Cats m.o. The cats have a tendancy to pick the position of their major free agent. Our major free agent is a two guard. We have a defensive big that we are developing at center. The major center in this draft is recovering from an injury. It is highly unlikely that the cats pick Noel over Mac. And if we get five and Mac and Oladipo are both gone we will likely either reach or trade down for Bazz.
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Post#544 » by mrknowitall215 » Fri May 10, 2013 3:10 pm

Season Report Card: Gerald Henderson

Grade: B+

16.48 PER vs 15.28 PER Against; Net +1.2

Strengths: Hendo’s biggest strength continues to be his ability to create his own shot — especially his own jump shot. The majority of his shot attempts continue to be from ‘mid-range’ — this season Hendo attempted 47.9% of his shots from 10-20 feet. Traditionally, he’s been great at coming off curls in offensive sets, but teams have keyed in on this strength over the years and it’s been more difficult for Hendo to come off screens and make clean catches with space — the adjustment has come with Hendo having to improve in ISO situations. 54.2% of Hendo’s FGM were assisted on this season while 45.8% came off ISO, or unassisted situations — so it’s fairly clear that he can score coming off screens (catch-and-shoot situations) and in ISO situations, having to find his own shot.

Henderson figured out something else this season that is vital to his scoring ability moving forward — getting to the foul line. He averaged 4.6 FTA/game this season, a +0.9/game improvement from last season — averaging 82.4% from the stripe this season as well, which is a +6.4% improvement from last season. 33.7% of Hendo’s points this season came from ‘Mid-Range’, while 24.5% came from the free throw line. The charity stripe is the most efficient place to score from on the floor (uncontested shots), so this is quite encouraging.

Henderson is a talented offensive player and can score in many different ways inside the arc — improving from 3 (33% 3FG this season). Defensively, he’s also an above average player — can keep ball handlers in front of him, is consistently in the correct position on the floor and can make defensive plays around the rim. Defense is going to have to continually be a priority for Hendo as it will give the Bobcats more flexibility moving forward, especially if they decide to favor more small ball.

Weaknesses: The glaring offensive weakness is the outside shooting, but it did improve drastically this season. It’s still quite clear that Hendo is uncomfortable taking the 3, but he at least faced the fact that the shot had to be added to his offensive toolbox. He took an average of 1.5 3PA/game (56 more 3PA than ’11-’12) this season, shot 33% from behind the arc and 97% of his 3PM were assisted on — so yeah, Hendo’s not a threat to hurt any defender with the 3 on an ISO set. He’s not there yet, but this season was a huge step in the right direction for Henderson’s improving outside shot.

Ball handling has always been somewhat of an issue — Hendo is good in catch-and-face situations where he can use the power dribble/use his body to get to the rim, but he’s weak at breaking down defenders with the dribble on an island. At 6’5 and a natural SG, Hendo needs to continue to develop his ball handling + come up with ways to break down defenders with the dribble — this will only make him more dangerous offensively and increase the level of attention team defenses must put on him.

Reasons for Optimism: We saw improvement in a lot of areas this season, but the overall numbers don’t jump off the page at you compared to ’11-’12. The biggest reason to have hope for Hendo moving forward is focusing on his numbers after the all-star break and believing this is the caliber of player he’s capable of being, consistently — 30 games, 35.9 MPG, 46.2% FG, 18.9 PPG, 4 RPG, 3.4 APG.

Reasons for Pessimism: I think it goes without saying that the biggest reason for pessimism coming up is considering Hendo could very well end up with a new team this summer. He’s due a $4.3 million qualifying offer from the Bobcats, but will likely get a better offer than that on the open market. The question will be how much the Bobcats will be willing to stretch in order to match. I’ve heard many put Hendo into the same category as DeMar Derozan, who just signed a contract extension worth $9.5 million/year last summer — I don’t think that Hendo is getting that kind of money, but with his performance towards the end of the season it’s definitely fair to assume that there’s a team out there that’s willing to bid for the right to overpay Henderson. The Bobcats would be smart to cap their bidding war number at about $6.5-7 million, annually.

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Post#545 » by catch20two » Fri May 10, 2013 7:38 pm

It would be an absolute crime if we don't bring Hendo back this summer unless some team offer him a deal worth over $8 million annually. His strong 2nd half of the season combined with his morale to the team has to make him an important part of the rebuild for the nearsighted future. There's so much parity at the shooting guard position past Kobe Bryant, Dwyane Wade, and James Harden that it would be irresponsible to try to replace Hendo at the moment with so many other glaring holes at other positions on the depth chart not to mention the recurring history of letting draft picks walk (Felton, May, Augustin) without compensation.
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Post#546 » by floppymoose » Mon May 13, 2013 7:32 am

debo23 wrote:Gerald Henderson on twitter today:


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looking forward to what God has in store for me. not easy leaving everything I used to know behind but He will guide me....


Speaking of trying to get paid, debo you owe me $50.
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Post#547 » by Diop » Wed May 15, 2013 4:05 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/GhJr09/status/334502031425404930[/tweet]

Is Hendo trolling the fans?

Surely he wouldn't need to be making a decision right now?
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Post#548 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed May 15, 2013 4:28 am

Sachmo wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/GhJr09/status/334502031425404930[/tweet]

Is Hendo trolling the fans?

Surely he wouldn't need to be making a decision right now?


Not sure. I doubt we've even made an offer yet. Kinda soon for all that.
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Post#549 » by Kembastockton » Thu May 16, 2013 5:54 am

Hendo wants to leave. He has been hinting all along that he wants to win
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Post#550 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu May 16, 2013 6:06 am

MountBiyombo wrote:Hendo wants to leave. He has been hinting all along that he wants to win


Might be better off letting him walk depending on what the other offers are going to be.
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Post#551 » by James Gatz » Thu May 16, 2013 1:39 pm

If he gets a 6.5mil+ a year I'd prefer to let him go. Yes he's an asset but I don't think he's worth that much in the long term. Of course this is dependent on who we end up drafting.
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Post#552 » by Kembastockton » Fri May 17, 2013 7:41 pm

Bleecher report is predicting that the Bobcats will draft and trade Mac as well as Tyrus to the Wolves for Williams, #9 and filler. After finding out that Mac is just 6'3 in socks and Nerlens only weighs 206 I have absolutely no problem with that if it happens.
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Post#553 » by catch20two » Fri May 17, 2013 7:48 pm

MountBiyombo wrote:Bleecher report is predicting that the Bobcats will draft and trade Mac as well as Tyrus to the Wolves for Williams, #9 and filler. After finding out that Mac is just 6'3 in socks and Nerlens only weighs 206 I have absolutely no problem with that if it happens.

I'm about to publish my own article on BleacherReport predicting the Bobcats drafting Nerlens Noel and stashing him away for a season like the Clippers did Blake Griffin when he broke his kneecap his rookie year to add bulk to his frame and develop a midrange jump shot while rehabbing his ACL injury even further.

Drafting Mac and trading him packaged with Tyrus to the Wolves for Williams, #9, and a filler isn't the worst idea though. I wonder who'd we take at #9 though. Rudy Gobert or Steven Adams?
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Post#554 » by thruthefire » Fri May 17, 2013 7:53 pm

catch20two wrote:It would be an absolute crime if we don't bring Hendo back this summer unless some team offer him a deal worth over $8 million annually. His strong 2nd half of the season combined with his morale to the team has to make him an important part of the rebuild for the nearsighted future.


I still feel this way, regardless of who we draft.
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Post#555 » by HornetJail » Fri May 17, 2013 11:26 pm

James Gatz wrote:If he gets a 6.5mil+ a year I'd prefer to let him go. Yes he's an asset but I don't think he's worth that much in the long term. Of course this is dependent on who we end up drafting.

Players who make 6M or more per year and not viewed as bad contracts:
-JJ Redick
-Wilson Chandler
-George Hill
-Arron Afflalo
-Spencer Hawes
-Goran Dragic
-Wesley Matthews
-Marcus Thornton
-Jason Thompson
-Amir Johnson

I have a hard time considering any of them "decidedly better" than Henderson. Some on that list are comparable (Afflalo, Hill, Dragic) and most of them are making closer to 8M than 6.5. If 6.5M is our cut-off I'll be very disappointed. Henderson is a must-keep for me. I'll only reconsider if his contract approaches Derozan territory.

And as others have said, this is independent of who we draft. Henderson would be a hell of a sixth man, but so would McLemore, Oladipo, etc. Hendo can play the 3 and MKG can definitely play as a small-ball 4 if necessary so I don't have a huge problem overloading the backcourt with talent right now. It has paid off for the Warriors, but then again they've got one of the better starting frontcourts in the league as well.
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Post#556 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri May 17, 2013 11:59 pm

Biz Gilwalker wrote:
James Gatz wrote:If he gets a 6.5mil+ a year I'd prefer to let him go. Yes he's an asset but I don't think he's worth that much in the long term. Of course this is dependent on who we end up drafting.

Players who make 6M or more per year and not viewed as bad contracts:
-JJ Redick
-Wilson Chandler
-George Hill
-Arron Afflalo
-Spencer Hawes
-Goran Dragic
-Wesley Matthews
-Marcus Thornton
-Jason Thompson
-Amir Johnson

I have a hard time considering any of them "decidedly better" than Henderson. Some on that list are comparable (Afflalo, Hill, Dragic) and most of them are making closer to 8M than 6.5. If 6.5M is our cut-off I'll be very disappointed. Henderson is a must-keep for me. I'll only reconsider if his contract approaches Derozan territory.

And as others have said, this is independent of who we draft. Henderson would be a hell of a sixth man, but so would McLemore, Oladipo, etc. Hendo can play the 3 and MKG can definitely play as a small-ball 4 if necessary so I don't have a huge problem overloading the backcourt with talent right now. It has paid off for the Warriors, but then again they've got one of the better starting frontcourts in the league as well.


If I was Hendersons agent I would wait and see what Redick gets on the open market, and strive for that mark or more
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Post#557 » by James Gatz » Sat May 18, 2013 12:49 am

-JJ Redick
-Wilson Chandler
-George Hill
-Arron Afflalo
-Spencer Hawes
-Goran Dragic
-Wesley Matthews
-Marcus Thornton
-Jason Thompson
-Amir Johnson


I'd rather have most of these players over Henderson.
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Post#558 » by HornetJail » Sat May 18, 2013 2:36 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:If I was Hendersons agent I would wait and see what Redick gets on the open market, and strive for that mark or more
I don't think that'll be very hard, Redick will be lucky to get the MLE.
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Post#559 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat May 18, 2013 4:03 am

Biz Gilwalker wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:If I was Hendersons agent I would wait and see what Redick gets on the open market, and strive for that mark or more
I don't think that'll be very hard, Redick will be lucky to get the MLE.


Always a team out there desperate to overpay for shooting.
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Post#560 » by thruthefire » Sat May 18, 2013 8:35 pm

The MLE is $5.15 million for non-tax teams, right? Redick will be offered at least that for sure, and likely from several teams.
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