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How do you support the Oden signing but not Bynum? They would serve the same purpose: big body to clog the lane and get rebounds. People are complaining about Bynum not being mobile, while ignoring that Oden is no better in that department. I would rather Oden succeed than Bynum, but you gotta work with what you have. If a marginally skilled 7 footer is willing to come here, how are you gonna reject him.. We took chances with EDDY CURRY for God's sake.
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GetMoney wrote:it's cute how the revisionist historians act like miami has dominated in the playoffs
living on the edge will catch up to us eventually
WE NEED BYNUM
THANK YOU. We've been pushed to the brink twice during our championship run. BY GOOD TEAMS THAT COULD HAVE ACTUALLY BEATEN US HAD THINGS NOT GONE OUR WAY THE WAY THEY DID.
Does anyone remember Game 7 vs. Boston? Game 6? LeBron wasn't guaranteed 45 points before tipoff.
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Iceburg Slim wrote:GetMoney wrote:it's cute how the revisionist historians act like miami has dominated in the playoffs
living on the edge will catch up to us eventually
WE NEED BYNUM
THANK YOU. We've been pushed to the brink twice during our championship run. BY GOOD TEAMS THAT COULD HAVE ACTUALLY BEATEN US HAD THINGS NOT GONE OUR WAY THE WAY THEY DID.
Does anyone remember Game 7 vs. Boston? Game 6? LeBron wasn't guaranteed 45 points before tipoff.
I'm not sure if it's naivete or stupidity but it honestly has to stop.
"Oh, we won last year without a guy like Bynum or Oden, so we can do it again."
No, that's not how it works.
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The Miami Heat and Los Angeles Clippers are widely believed to be among the teams interested in acquiring the two-time championship center.
One league executive who recently spoke with Heat president Pat Riley told ESPN.com, "I'm certain that Riley is going to go hard after Bynum."
Sources say, furthermore, that the Brooklyn Nets are not planning to pursue Bynum despite being granted a disabled player exception worth up to $5.25 million in the wake of Brook Lopez's season-ending foot injury. The Atlanta Hawks, meanwhile, are "unlikely" to lodge a bid for Bynum to replace the injured Al Horford, according to one source close to the process.
Bynum's decision will come down to several factors, according to the source. He will consider playing time, the club's chances for playoff success and money. Financial compensation will not be a small factor considering that Bynum's release by the Bulls meant he receives only $6 million of his $12.3 million salary for this season.
"It doesn't necessarily have to be a contender," the source said of Bynum's choice. "He's looking to play and be utilized."
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AlexCRO wrote:heater4life wrote:Heat fan06 wrote:20/10/3 with 5 blocks on 8-14.
20/13/2 with 2 blocks on 9-14.
18/6 on 8-13.
19/7/2 on 9-15.
This year
Thats fine. But the moment he gives up a couple easy layups due to poor pick n roll play Spo is going to bench him. As much as the Heat need/want size, mobility is a crucial factor in our bigs play. Bynum does not have the mobility to play miami heat defense.
Not saying he wont be signed. At the minimum, he may be deemed worth the risk. I just dont think he fits our needs at center beyond a big body.
and who do you think we should sign that is 7 feet, 280 lbs at minimum and is mobile, give me a break when you are in deep s*** like we are as far as the salaray cap goes then you pick up anyone that can help in the department that you need.
Like I said, at the minimum the Heat may deem he is work the risk. Beyond being a big body he is not a fit for the Heat. As another poster noted, guys like dampier, pittman, curry didnt fit the bill because of their lack of mobility, not size.
Both our offense and defense, are predicated on lots of movement, screens and hard rotations. All of which if late, ruin the play and lead to breakdowns. This team would rather give up offensive rebounds before they would give up uncontested baskets.
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if i see one more BS post about mobile bigs.......FFS!!!!
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heater4life wrote:AlexCRO wrote:heater4life wrote:
Thats fine. But the moment he gives up a couple easy layups due to poor pick n roll play Spo is going to bench him. As much as the Heat need/want size, mobility is a crucial factor in our bigs play. Bynum does not have the mobility to play miami heat defense.
Not saying he wont be signed. At the minimum, he may be deemed worth the risk. I just dont think he fits our needs at center beyond a big body.
and who do you think we should sign that is 7 feet, 280 lbs at minimum and is mobile, give me a break when you are in deep s*** like we are as far as the salaray cap goes then you pick up anyone that can help in the department that you need.
Like I said, at the minimum the Heat may deem he is work the risk. Beyond being a big body he is not a fit for the Heat. As another poster noted, guys like dampier, pittman, curry didnt fit the bill because of their lack of mobility, not size.
Both our offense and defense, are predicated on lots of movement, screens and hard rotations. All of which if late, ruin the play and lead to breakdowns. This team would rather give up offensive rebounds before they would give up uncontested baskets.
Well that's good because we're giving it up both right now.
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heater4life wrote:Like I said, at the minimum the Heat may deem he is work the risk. Beyond being a big body he is not a fit for the Heat. As another poster noted, guys like dampier, pittman, curry didnt fit the bill because of their lack of mobility, not size.
No, they didn't fit the bill because they suck. Why don't you tell everybody about their illustrious careers post-Miami?
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GetMoney wrote:it's cute how the revisionist historians act like miami has dominated in the playoffs
living on the edge will catch up to us eventually
WE NEED BYNUM
It already has caught up to us three years ago. If anything we were thought to be the most invincible that season.
Anything can happen in one game. The other team can just get hot from 3 and you're dead in the water. Lebron can just have a bad game instead of being amazing in every elimination game. We've been down in too many series to think we can't or shouldn't at least attempt to improve.
I know once we get the ring it becomes the narrative of how we were destined to win because we have the heart of the champion and winning culture or whatever but I agree with you, we've been closer to the edge against inferior teams than we should be.
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I just dont understand why many are aganist getting Bynum if he comes for min. I think he can be a big help in keeping guys like battier and bosh more fresh. I miss battier not able being on the floor because of hes matchup with. The heat still doing well without him playing that much , but man it would be wonderful if shane and cheis can play their games and ball out like the players they can be in their right position. Hibbert is a real serious issue for this team, he just so useless against other teams. Look how that Anic whatever his name from the Hawks made him look tonight. He was looking dead tired out there because Anic made his clumsy looking butt work. The heat need both bosh and battier to show up against the pacer and boy he showed could help with that because imo if Bosh and Shane play their game its over with be because you know Wade and Bron can find their way themselves.
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Speaking of antic. Why can't the heat scout properly? I mean the vets we've gotten have been good. Battier and birdman more than anything. That antic guy could've been good for us. He's 6'11 260. Decent defender and he can shoot the three. I'm pretty sure he'd be better than haslem at least
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Altered_Beast wrote:Speaking of antic. Why can't the heat scout properly? I mean the vets we've gotten have been good. Battier and birdman more than anything. That antic guy could've been good for us. He's 6'11 260. Decent defender and he can shoot the three. I'm pretty sure he'd be better than haslem at least
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Right and Antic guy is average, but all is need for this Heat team. The two player that do bad against the pacer are Shane and Bosh because of the center issue. I can see CB out there now just raining threes being the offensive threat he could be. Imo opinion I think Beasley would aslo benefit if Bynum comes because Shane would help alot on floor with him.
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GreenHat wrote:GetMoney wrote:it's cute how the revisionist historians act like miami has dominated in the playoffs
living on the edge will catch up to us eventually
WE NEED BYNUM
It already has caught up to us three years ago. If anything we were thought to be the most invincible that season.
What? Everyone was predicting us to lose to the Bulls that year. Nice revisionist history. If anything that was the year we looked most vincible.
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I truly think we are the best we've ever been but I for one would jump at the chance of having Bynum on our roster. Oden may work out but we've absolutely no proof that he will. Bynum may be lazy and immobile but he has proven even at his laziest that he can add something that our roster doesn't have.
We then use him when we need him or when he benefits us.
Getting him is a no-brainer - it'd be nice to trade a couple of players in advance to frr up a spot and save Arison a bit of cash but that's unlikely.
Question is who do we waive?
JJ isn't used but is great backup material. Doc isn't used but could still be a trade chip, UD is finished but is our co-captain. There is no way we let Mason go, we need him whereas the three above we don't need.
I could see us waiving JJ then attempting to trade away Doc before taking JJ back for the remainder of the season. I'd prefer we just put UD on the coaching staff.
We then use him when we need him or when he benefits us.
Getting him is a no-brainer - it'd be nice to trade a couple of players in advance to frr up a spot and save Arison a bit of cash but that's unlikely.
Question is who do we waive?
JJ isn't used but is great backup material. Doc isn't used but could still be a trade chip, UD is finished but is our co-captain. There is no way we let Mason go, we need him whereas the three above we don't need.
I could see us waiving JJ then attempting to trade away Doc before taking JJ back for the remainder of the season. I'd prefer we just put UD on the coaching staff.
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HIF wrote:I truly think we are the best we've ever been but I for one would jump at the chance of having Bynum on our roster. Oden may work out but we've absolutely no proof that he will. Bynum may be lazy and immobile but he has proven even at his laziest that he can add something that our roster doesn't have.
We then use him when we need him or when he benefits us.
Getting him is a no-brainer - it'd be nice to trade a couple of players in advance to frr up a spot and save Arison a bit of cash but that's unlikely.
Question is who do we waive?
JJ isn't used but is great backup material. Doc isn't used but could still be a trade chip, UD is finished but is our co-captain. There is no way we let Mason go, we need him whereas the three above we don't need.
I could see us waiving JJ then attempting to trade away Doc before taking JJ back for the remainder of the
season. I'd prefer we just put UD on the coaching staff.
Why do we need mason, what are u talking about ? the guy is not playing, when chalmers gets back he will be in a suit next to oden all the time and when the playoffs come he will not see the floor, we dont need him for anything
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Jaxon wrote:GreenHat wrote:GetMoney wrote:it's cute how the revisionist historians act like miami has dominated in the playoffs
living on the edge will catch up to us eventually
WE NEED BYNUM
It already has caught up to us three years ago. If anything we were thought to be the most invincible that season.
What? Everyone was predicting us to lose to the Bulls that year. Nice revisionist history. If anything that was the year we looked most vincible.
haha you are funny that was the media that are picking against the heat in every series but truthfully we are the favourites in every series. and let me tell you if wade and lebron didnt go in hero moder who knows how that series would have finished up
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Iceburg Slim wrote:GetMoney wrote:it's cute how the revisionist historians act like miami has dominated in the playoffs
living on the edge will catch up to us eventually
WE NEED BYNUM
THANK YOU. We've been pushed to the brink twice during our championship run. BY GOOD TEAMS THAT COULD HAVE ACTUALLY BEATEN US HAD THINGS NOT GONE OUR WAY THE WAY THEY DID.
Does anyone remember Game 7 vs. Boston? Game 6? LeBron wasn't guaranteed 45 points before tipoff.
yeah i agree plus lebron and wade going god mode against the pacers two years ago, then lebron game winner in game 1 against indiana last year, the shot by allen etc... we have some blind fans. the gap has closed. we must improve however and with whatever we can to keep our championship window ope, as long as we can and with this salarys cap its not going to get any easier.
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AlexCRO wrote:HIF wrote:I truly think we are the best we've ever been but I for one would jump at the chance of having Bynum on our roster. Oden may work out but we've absolutely no proof that he will. Bynum may be lazy and immobile but he has proven even at his laziest that he can add something that our roster doesn't have.
We then use him when we need him or when he benefits us.
Getting him is a no-brainer - it'd be nice to trade a couple of players in advance to frr up a spot and save Arison a bit of cash but that's unlikely.
Question is who do we waive?
JJ isn't used but is great backup material. Doc isn't used but could still be a trade chip, UD is finished but is our co-captain. There is no way we let Mason go, we need him whereas the three above we don't need.
I could see us waiving JJ then attempting to trade away Doc before taking JJ back for the remainder of the
season. I'd prefer we just put UD on the coaching staff.
Why do we need mason, what are u talking about ? the guy is not playing, when chalmers gets back he will be in a suit next to oden all the time and when the playoffs come he will not see the floor, we dont need him for anything
noobs really ought to have a limit to the number of posts they can make in the first year. This thread seems to be full of your posts.
We need Mason because Rio or cole could be injured at anytime and he is the backup - on top of that he's a decent backup who can hit the 3 and defend a little. Check with GT3 who likes his stats and you'll find that Mason has played much more than JJ or Doc. Mason is a must for the regular season otherwise Wade would be forced into playing more minutes.
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heatlespeatles wrote:Tony15 wrote:heatlespeatles wrote:this isn't rocket science. Stop overthinking spacing and all that nonsense. You have a physical Big that can manhandle other centers. I don't care if he's slow, he's not gonna play a whole bunch of minutes unless he's healthy enough or effective. He's a big similar to Oden, but he's proven. How do you want what Oden brings and not what Bynum bring? it doesn't make any sense
Cool. Still doesn't mean that we desperately need him like 90% of this board is suggesting....Miami's an untraditional team man, and they won back to back titles this way. Another big would be nice, but it's not the end of the world if things don't work out the way you want them to. You have to play to your strengths....
Oh ok, center isn't a major need now? Last in rebounding, always giving up points in the paint. No resistance in the paint, cant guard the three because we are busy over helping on defense. So now we don't need another center but we got Oden in the offseason.?. oH ok....
Wow...ok me rephrase. I'd love to have Bynum for cheap....but there are still many questions about him and how he'd fit. Hate to brake it to you, but team "fit" matters in this league and it sounds to me like you haven't been watching Bynum at all this year, otherwise most of you wouldn't be this adamant. And besides, say we don't land him, what would that say about Oden and his health? By saying we "need" Bynum, you're implying that without him we're toast....well the last few years prove otherwise and if a Bynum signing doesn't come to pass, then we can safely assume Oden is in a good place right now in terms of his health.
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