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Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group C (COL/GRE/CIV/JPN)
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:10 pm
by bankrupt euro
These are the breaks of the game. One team had an identity, a certain strategy and executed it. And had three shots hitting the goalpost. The other team had great individual talent, insane athletic gifts and couldn't figure out how to play. One team was aggresive, another was not. In the end, luck helps the daring.
Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group C (COL/GRE/CIV/JPN)
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:11 pm
by britblazerdude
Clincher wrote:What did the defender do wrong? He didn't impede him, he was behind him to put pressure on Samaras.
He ran into Samaras as he was taking a shot in the box?!?!?!
Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group C (COL/GRE/CIV/JPN)
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:11 pm
by TheAdmiral
Columbia celebrating after the first goal:
Awesome.
Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group C (COL/GRE/CIV/JPN)
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:13 pm
by Matty
britblazerdude wrote:Scientists need to check to see if there's an "Unlucky in the World Cup" African gene that no one else has. Every bleeding World Cup.
This man.
I'm just numb right now. At least my Oranje get a MUCH easier route to the semi-finals, but I really wanted to see an African team in the quarter-finals, especially with Drogba in it.
Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group C (COL/GRE/CIV/JPN)
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:13 pm
by Geddy
5DOM wrote:Geddy wrote:He clipped the defender on the back swing but that's not a foul, just incidental contact. Kicking the ground is what took him down.
I'd agree that it was just an incidental contact if Sio's foot was already set, but he was stretching his leg and unfortunately the result was a trip.
That wasn't even a stretch and was more of Sio just running behind him. Samaras initiated contact with his wind up. It's not like it was some kind of tangling of the feet or a poor tackle attempt.
Guys bump into each other in the box often a lot worse and it's not a penalty.
Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group C (COL/GRE/CIV/JPN)
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:13 pm
by Clincher
britblazerdude wrote:Clincher wrote:What did the defender do wrong? He didn't impede him, he was behind him to put pressure on Samaras.
He ran into Samaras as he was taking a shot in the box?!?!?!
Ran as in run over? What?
He put pressure, he had no idea Samaras was winding up for the shot. That's fair play, you're entitled to that as a defender. There was nothing blatant or purpose about that on the defender's part.
Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group C (COL/GRE/CIV/JPN)
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:14 pm
by El Turco
Zubby wrote:Thats such a **** way to lose two mental lapses and what was up with the analyst in the studio being so happy about Greece advancing.
lalas? he is greek american
Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group C (COL/GRE/CIV/JPN)
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:15 pm
by britblazerdude
Clincher wrote:He put pressure, he had no idea Samaras was winding up for the shot. That's fair play, you're entitled to that as a defender. There was nothing blatant or purpose about that on the defender's part.
That is irrelevant to whether unfair contact was made. It was a foul.
Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group C (COL/GRE/CIV/JPN)
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:15 pm
by Geddy
britblazerdude wrote:Clincher wrote:What did the defender do wrong? He didn't impede him, he was behind him to put pressure on Samaras.
He ran into Samaras as he was taking a shot in the box?!?!?!
He didn't run into Samaras. Samaras' initiated contact with his back swing before his shot attempt.
Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group C (COL/GRE/CIV/JPN)
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:16 pm
by britblazerdude
It's a clear cut obvious penalty. I'm genuinely at a loss as to how anyone could argue otherwise.
Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group C (COL/GRE/CIV/JPN)
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:17 pm
by truth18
El Belgian wrote:Zubby wrote:Thats such a **** way to lose two mental lapses and what was up with the analyst in the studio being so happy about Greece advancing.
lalas? he is greek american
And terrible!
Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group C (COL/GRE/CIV/JPN)
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:17 pm
by Little Italia
Hate to break it to you guys, but you know darn well Greece is going to beat Costa Rica.
Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group C (COL/GRE/CIV/JPN)
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:18 pm
by Point forward
britblazerdude wrote:It's a clear cut obvious penalty. I'm genuinely at a loss as to how anyone could argue otherwise.
Sadly, yes. I wanted CIV to win, and my immediate reaction was "Sio you idiot" instead of "Samaras you cheat". The replays supported that.
Edit: also note that the CIV guys were not screaming at the ref, but staring at each other in horror. The only guy shouting was GK Barry, and only to distract Samaras, not at the call itself.
Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group C (COL/GRE/CIV/JPN)
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:18 pm
by Clincher
britblazerdude wrote:Clincher wrote:He put pressure, he had no idea Samaras was winding up for the shot. That's fair play, you're entitled to that as a defender. There was nothing blatant or purpose about that on the defender's part.
That is irrelevant to whether unfair contact was made. It was a foul.
You're entitled to your opinion. You're seemingly cool with letting the refs decide a game, I am not.
Worse have happened in the box all World Cup long that went uncalled, fans who are neutral(Which many of us are) have a right to be boned about the call.
Inconsistent reffing ruins everything.
Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group C (COL/GRE/CIV/JPN)
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:18 pm
by edfmx86
Bah would have much preferred Costa Rica beat Ivory Coast in the R16. Dreaming of Mexico vs Costa Rica quarter final
Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group C (COL/GRE/CIV/JPN)
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:19 pm
by britblazerdude
Clincher wrote:You're entitled to your opinion. You're seemingly cool with letting the refs decide a game, I am not.
The referee would be deciding the game if he hadn't called a blatant penalty in the box. You can't just swallow your whistle because it's the last minute.
Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group C (COL/GRE/CIV/JPN)
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:20 pm
by Clincher
Point forward wrote:britblazerdude wrote:It's a clear cut obvious penalty. I'm genuinely at a loss as to how anyone could argue otherwise.
Sadly, yes. I wanted CIV to win, and my immediate reaction was "Sio you idiot" instead of "Samaras you cheat". The replays supported that.
No one is saying he cheated anything, its a bang bang play. Just the defender did not run into the shooter, the shooter went for a strike and the defender was behind him trying to make it legally harder on the shooter.
Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group C (COL/GRE/CIV/JPN)
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:20 pm
by 5DOM
Geddy wrote:5DOM wrote:Geddy wrote:He clipped the defender on the back swing but that's not a foul, just incidental contact. Kicking the ground is what took him down.
I'd agree that it was just an incidental contact if Sio's foot was already set, but he was stretching his leg and unfortunately the result was a trip.
That wasn't even a stretch and was more of Sio just running behind him. Samaras initiated contact with his wind up. It's not like it was some kind of tangling of the feet or a poor tackle attempt.
Guys bump into each other in the box often a lot worse and it's not a penalty.
I think his left leg definitely stretched.
Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group C (COL/GRE/CIV/JPN)
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:21 pm
by truth18
I'm on a train. Greece advanced??? Wtf?
Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group C (COL/GRE/CIV/JPN)
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:22 pm
by smpalome
Rasho Brezec wrote:PAY YOUR DEBTS GREECE
Dont write about topics you are ignorant beyond imagination