State of Cowboys Union?

[Mr B]

After Jimmy departed, Jerry drafted Larry Allen in the 2nd round and then signed FA Deion Sanders, and then won another SB.

Does Jerry get credit for any of that?...I'd say 90% of fans default all credit to Jimmy but if you really look into that 1995 roster Jerry made some wise moves. Namely with Allen and taking away Deion from the 49ers who wanted to resign Deion.

Not in my book he does. We were going to the Super Bowl that year with, or without Sanders. I was on Stephen's side on this one and to this day still believe the Sanders trade was the beginning of the end of the dynasty way too soon. Because of the lousy Sanders contract we ended up losing a young Larry Allen to the Niners and didn't have enough cap space to resign Harper, Gogan, Stepnoski and others.

I don’t think it was so much about adding Deion to that Cowboys team as much as it was getting him away from the Niners or preventing him from going to Green Bay. I disagree that the Cowboys were going to win regardless. Subtracting Deion from the Niners was huge! They had already shown they were very capable of beating the Cowboys in ‘94.

[bluejerseyjinx]

After Jimmy departed, Jerry drafted Larry Allen in the 2nd round and then signed FA Deion Sanders, and then won another SB.

Does Jerry get credit for any of that?...I'd say 90% of fans default all credit to Jimmy but if you really look into that 1995 roster Jerry made some wise moves. Namely with Allen and taking away Deion from the 49ers who wanted to resign Deion.

Not in my book he does. We were going to the Super Bowl that year with, or without Sanders. I was on Stephen's side on this one and to this day still believe the Sanders trade was the beginning of the end of the dynasty way too soon. Because of the lousy Sanders contract we ended up losing a young Larry Allen to the Niners and didn't have enough cap space to resign Harper, Gogan, Stepnoski and others.

I don’t though no it was so much about adding Deion to that Cowboys team as much as it was getting him away from the Niners or preventing him from going to Green Bay. I disagree that the Cowboys were going to win regardless. Subtracting Deion from the Niners was huge! They had already shown they were very capable of beating the Cowboys in ‘94.

You might be right but I remember the meeting Troy Aikman and others had with Sanders and told him the Cowboys were going to the Super Bowl and wanted to know if he wanted to come along with them.

[bluejerseyjinx]

We have a lot of unresolved issues to settle with the Cardinals this week. The game last year left a bad taste in all the mouths of players and fans. So looking forward to thrashing Arizona this weekend.

[Mr B]

We have a lot of unresolved issues to settle with the Cardinals this week. The game last year left a bad taste in all the mouths of players and fans. So looking forward to thrashing Arizona this weekend.

I expect they will be using Parsons more as a spy on Murray than as a pass rusher against the Cardinals. This is also a game where having Demarcus Lawrence back and healthy is huge because of his ability to hold the edge and keep containment. Other than Murray’s ability to run nothing about the Cardinals scares me. They have suspect OL and suspect defense and their running game doesn’t strike fear in anyone. Plus their former All Pro CB has been talking about how much he wants to be a Cowboy.

This won’t be a complete smack down like it was against Washington but I expect the Cowboys to win this game. They are the better team all the way around.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Correct me if I am wrong, but with Tyrone Smith being reactivated and starting this week, this will be the first time all year we are fully healthy and have all of our starters going at the same time.

[Mr B]

Correct me if I am wrong, but with Tyrone Smith being reactivated and starting this week, this will be the first time all year we are fully healthy and have all of our starters going at the same time.

Since game 1 that is correct.

[Mr B]

Correct me if I am wrong, but with Tyrone Smith being reactivated and starting this week, this will be the first time all year we are fully healthy and have all of our starters going at the same time.

Actually looks like this will be the 1st game they have all played together.

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[bluejerseyjinx]

Turned out it didn't make any difference. Cowboys stunk out the joint and all the flaws I have been posting about all surfaced once again yesterday. Kellen Moore completely stunk in this game. appears D coordinators have caught on to his game. Tyron Smith got Schooled by Chandler all day long. After halftime adjustments were made, Dan Quinn couldn't figure out a way to get a stop for the life of him. Once again Dak Romo choked his way through the game. 5 batted balls, 3 over throws and for all the extra time he spends looking and studying film it doesn't appear it is making him any better or smarter. I think I finally understand why it took Jerry so long to pay Tony Prescott. Jerry never in his heart felt Dak was the guy and I hate to admit anything right with Jerry, but in this case I believe he was spot on. We have another choking QB at our helm that can't beat a good team when the chips are down. Except for the New England game early in the season, the Cowboys have lost to any and every team that has had a solid defense and a winning record. And don't get me started about Zeke, the Molly junkie party monster. His body is already breaking down the past couple years, is ineffective as a runner and drops at least two perfect passes every week. I wanted to ship his ass out the door 2 years ago but due to another stupid contract by Jerry, we are stuck with him one more year. What a horrible contract that has come back and bitten us in the ass.
Unless this team plays lights out in the playoffs and gets us 3-4 turnovers in each game, this team has no chance of going anywhere. They get gashed in coverage on defense and the whole offensive unit is so over rated its sickening.

[Mr B]

For whatever reason Dak is not playing well. He’s getting protection, and all his WR’s are healthy. Now they did commit several penalties that killed drives. That was part of it last night. I know the ref’s called a horrible game (on both sides) but if the Cowboys don’t commit those penalties they still would have won the game.

We are currently locked in to the 4th seed and it’s looking like we will get a rematch with the Cardinals in the 1st round in Dallas. This will likely be Dallas’ only home playoff game.

Also for the record Kyler Murray is now 8-0 in Cowboys Stadium dating back to his state championship when he was in High School.

[bluejerseyjinx]

I've seen enough of Dak. Don't need anymore excuses. He is **** dumb as a door nail and is not clutch. Should have been picked off in his first two series. Game should have been a blow out. This reminds me of the Packer playoff game a few years ago when dak and the rest of the team spotted the packers 17 points in the first period after beating the Seahawks the previous week. Dak is not the guy and this team needs a new QB and RB. I do like Pollard however. He should have been the starter yesterday and the game plan should have been much different when you look at the numbers.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Injury and health wise we finally look good heading into the playoffs. Been a while since we were this healthy.

[Mr B]

I've seen enough of Dak. Don't need anymore excuses. he is **** dumb as a door nail and is not clutch. Should have been picked off in his first two series. Game should have been a blow out. This reminds me of the Packer playoff game a few years ago when dak and the rest of the team spotted the packers 17 points in the first period after beating the Seahawks the previous week. Dak is not the guy and this team needs a new QB and RB. I do like Pollard however. He should have been the starter yesterday and the game plan should have been much different when you look at the numbers.

What are you going to say if he wins a SB before he retires?

[bluejerseyjinx]

I've seen enough of Dak. Don't need anymore excuses. he is **** dumb as a door nail and is not clutch. Should have been picked off in his first two series. Game should have been a blow out. This reminds me of the Packer playoff game a few years ago when dak and the rest of the team spotted the packers 17 points in the first period after beating the Seahawks the previous week. Dak is not the guy and this team needs a new QB and RB. I do like Pollard however. He should have been the starter yesterday and the game plan should have been much different when you look at the numbers.

What are you going to say if he wins a SB before he retires?

I will let you know after this week. IMHO this will be the game where we find out Jerry did the right thing in paying dak and if he is the guy going forward. If he loses Dak will just be anther Tony Romo.

[Mr B]

I've seen enough of Dak. Don't need anymore excuses. he is **** dumb as a door nail and is not clutch. Should have been picked off in his first two series. Game should have been a blow out. This reminds me of the Packer playoff game a few years ago when dak and the rest of the team spotted the packers 17 points in the first period after beating the Seahawks the previous week. Dak is not the guy and this team needs a new QB and RB. I do like Pollard however. He should have been the starter yesterday and the game plan should have been much different when you look at the numbers.

What are you going to say if he wins a SB before he retires?

I will let you know after this week. IMHO this will be the game where we find out Jerry did the right thing in paying dak and if he is the guy going forward. If he loses Dak will just be anther Tony Romo.

Dak has a huge opportunity staring him right in the face. The Jones’ have put a very talented team around him. Not just the offense, but on the defensive side too. And outside of the kicker even the Special Teams have been really good.

You’re absolutely right that this is why he’s getting paid big money and it’s time for him to earn it. He HAS to play well. I believe he can but he has to prove it. This is where his legacy will be written, in the playoffs.

[bluejerseyjinx]

I couldn't agree more. They key word you just posted, PROVE IT. We all know he can. Just like you said, he has all the weapons he needs. The defense took a huge jump from being all historic low to around a top 12 defense. Will McClay has done a superb getting the ones to take his advice and suggestions the past few years. In short we have a team that is capable of running the table and making it to the Super Bowl for the first time in 26 years. I also believe are the most talented team in the NFL with the highest ceiling.
Nevertheless, I do have a few concerns going into the Game. Like you said earlier, this is a game that Dak needs to prove himself. Can Kellen Moore and McCarthy out duo Shanahan. I think this is a huge game for Kellen Moore as well. McCarthy can't **** up either. he needs to have his team fully prepared for everything or he is on the hot seat for sure. I worry that our Offensive line won't be physical enough. The OL from here on end will need to impose its will. I haven't seen enough of that the past 6 weeks. I also worry Tyrone Smith might not have enough left in him. I hope I'm wrong. And the only other worry I have is with Amari Cooper who we pay 21 million dollars a year and is suppose to be our #1 WR. Its time to stop dropping balls and taking plays off. That **** needs to stop now.

[Micah Prescott]

I couldn't agree more. They key word you just posted, PROVE IT. We all know he can.

Do YOU know that he can? Just 5 posts up you said "I've seen enough of Dak", "He is dumb and not clutch", "This team needs a new QB".

I mean, I can knee jerk after a loss too and say things that maybe aren't what I mean. But you have been pretty consistent in saying that Dak is just like Romo and that we'll never win anything with him.



SO...if we do win this game...will you give him any credit?

And further, if we actually do happen to go on and win a ring. And this isn't even directed at you personally. But there is a VERY VERY large % of our fan base who will owe Jerry (and Dak) an apology. And it would be really interesting to see many of them evade that apology, give credit to OTHER people, I don't know who but they'll figure it out. Because there are fans who would rather die than give Jerry credit.

I personally would eat crow on McCarthy. I've said he is a bad coach but if we win a ring I'll have to eat those words.

[Micah Prescott]

Also people need a reminder of Dak's last playoff win.

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He was extremely clutch in this game. 17 yard run and pound it into the endzone late in the 4th to win it.

[bluejerseyjinx]

I couldn't agree more. They key word you just posted, PROVE IT. We all know he can.

Do YOU know that he can? Just 5 posts up you said "I've seen enough of Dak", "He is dumb and not clutch", "This team needs a new QB".

I mean, I can knee jerk after a loss too and say things that maybe aren't what I mean. But you have been pretty consistent in saying that Dak is just like Romo and that we'll never win anything with him.



SO...if we do win this game...will you give him any credit?

And further, if we actually do happen to go on and win a ring. And this isn't even directed at you personally. But there is a VERY VERY large % of our fan base who will owe Jerry (and Dak) an apology. And it would be really interesting to see many of them evade that apology, give credit to OTHER people, I don't know who but they'll figure it out. Because there are fans who would rather die than give Jerry credit.

I personally would eat crow on McCarthy. I've said he is a bad coach but if we win a ring I'll have to eat those words.

Like I said earlier, we are going to find out this weekend. We've given the kid everything now, let Romo go. gotten rid of Garrett and given him everything he needs to succeed. Its time to pay the piper. No more excuses, we are now in year 5 so he's had plenty of time to develop. Jerry finally went all in on him and given him is contract. Lets hope Dak doesn't spot San Francisco 17 points like he did vs. the Packers in his last playoff start.
And to answer your other question, hell no. Unless we at minimum make the NFC Championship game there is no credit to give anyone with this roster.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Also people need a reminder of Dak's last playoff win.

Watch on YouTube

He was extremely clutch in this game. 17 yard run and pound it into the endzone late in the 4th to win it.

What about Dak's last playoff game period?

[Mr B]

I couldn't agree more. They key word you just posted, PROVE IT. We all know he can.

Do YOU know that he can? Just 5 posts up you said "I've seen enough of Dak", "He is dumb and not clutch", "This team needs a new QB".

I mean, I can knee jerk after a loss too and say things that maybe aren't what I mean. But you have been pretty consistent in saying that Dak is just like Romo and that we'll never win anything with him.



SO...if we do win this game...will you give him any credit?

And further, if we actually do happen to go on and win a ring. And this isn't even directed at you personally. But there is a VERY VERY large % of our fan base who will owe Jerry (and Dak) an apology. And it would be really interesting to see many of them evade that apology, give credit to OTHER people, I don't know who but they'll figure it out. Because there are fans who would rather die than give Jerry credit.

I personally would eat crow on McCarthy. I've said he is a bad coach but if we win a ring I'll have to eat those words.

Like I said earlier, we are going to find out this weekend. We've given the kid everything now, let Romo go. gotten rid of Garrett and given him everything he needs to succeed. Its time to pay the piper. No more excuses, we are now in year 5 so he's had plenty of time to develop. Jerry finally went all in on him and given him is contract. Lets hope Dak doesn't spot San Francisco 17 points like he did vs. the Packers in his last playoff start.
And to answer your other question, hell no. Unless we at minimum make the NFC Championship game there is no credit to give anyone with this roster.

I agree, no more excuses for Dak.