Around the NBA - First Round Blessings and Curses

[3toheadmelo]

I’m rocking a vintage Denver Melo jersey right now to celebrate his win over jokic on his birthday

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[ENYK]

Would you give up Obi and a bunch of picks for Butler if we kept Barrett, Robinson, Randle and Quickley in the process?

Jimmy Butler to NYK
Jeremy Lamb, Kevin Knox, 13, 19, '22 NYK 1st and '24 NYK 1st to Miami
Obi Toppin and 21 to Indiana

We would still have $28 Million in cap space too.

C-Mitchell Robinson
PF-Julius Randle
SF-Jimmy Butler
SG-R.J. Barrett
PG-Immanuel Quickley/Luca Vildoza
+ $28 Million in cap space + Cap MLE

Butler would be the leader, the alpha and the go-to guy that puts us on his back that we need. He would make life so easy for Barrett and Randle to further develop especially if we can get a good point guard with the cap space (Lowry in this case? Conley? Going all in on Ball?).

Robinson/Randle/Butler/Barrett/(Ball, Conley, Lowry, etc.?) is a huge change in the ceiling of this team. Adding an elite guy like Butler and upgrading the point guard spot would solve so many things.

Terrible idea, and if history has taught us anything, typical swing for the fences, reactionary Knicks move. I'm praying WWW and Leon Rose are more about the long term picture.

Butler was straight cheeks in the first round Milwaukee embarrassed them... You can say he was playing hurt, but we might also be watching a star go into a long decline.

If you add an old ass Conley or Lowry to the mix, is that team really much better than this year's heat?

At the very best, we're looking at a second round out, salary cap nightmare, and no real shot at contention for the next 5 years (knowing the Knicks that means 10 years).

No more quick fixes, keep all the picks, develop homegrown talent, keep cap space and sign an actual superstar like Luka 4-5 years from now.

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[3toheadmelo]

Am I the only one rooting for Memphis

[3toheadmelo]

Ja is the real deal

[Ghetto Gospel]

morant taking over

[3toheadmelo]

This game lit

[knickstape4ever]

damn....we coulda had Mitchell

[NoDopeOnSundays]

damn....we coulda had Mitchell

[Ghetto Gospel]

sure could have... donovan closing this up

[knickstape4ever]

Bouknight will be the the Mitchell of this draft....BOUK IT

[3toheadmelo]

Jaren Jackson unimpressive

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Bouknight will be the the Mitchell of this draft....BOUK IT

Unfortunately I saw some mocks that have him going top 10

[Ghetto Gospel]

Bouknight will be the the Mitchell of this draft....BOUK IT

Unfortunately I saw some mocks that have him going top 10

fwiw... espn's latest mock has us taking him at 19

[knickstape4ever]

Bouknight will be the the Mitchell of this draft....BOUK IT

Unfortunately I saw some mocks that have him going top 10

I'd move up for him tho if need be. seeing a lot of variance w/ how he's ranked. maybe we get lucky and he falls to us...that'd be something

[NYG]

Would you give up Obi and a bunch of picks for Butler if we kept Barrett, Robinson, Randle and Quickley in the process?

Jimmy Butler to NYK
Jeremy Lamb, Kevin Knox, 13, 19, '22 NYK 1st and '24 NYK 1st to Miami
Obi Toppin and 21 to Indiana

We would still have $28 Million in cap space too.

C-Mitchell Robinson
PF-Julius Randle
SF-Jimmy Butler
SG-R.J. Barrett
PG-Immanuel Quickley/Luca Vildoza
+ $28 Million in cap space + Cap MLE

Butler would be the leader, the alpha and the go-to guy that puts us on his back that we need. He would make life so easy for Barrett and Randle to further develop especially if we can get a good point guard with the cap space (Lowry in this case? Conley? Going all in on Ball?).

Robinson/Randle/Butler/Barrett/(Ball, Conley, Lowry, etc.?) is a huge change in the ceiling of this team. Adding an elite guy like Butler and upgrading the point guard spot would solve so many things.

Terrible idea, and if history has taught us anything, typical swing for the fences, reactionary Knicks move. I'm praying WWW and Leon Rose are more about the long term picture.

Butler was straight cheeks in the first round Milwaukee embarrassed them... You can say he was playing hurt, but we might also be watching a star go into a long decline.

If you add an old ass Conley or Lowry to the mix, is that team really much better than this year's heat?

At the very best, we're looking at a second round out, salary cap nightmare, and no real shot at contention for the next 5 years (knowing the Knicks that means 10 years).

No more quick fixes, keep all the picks, develop homegrown talent, keep cap space and sign an actual superstar like Luka 4-5 years from now.

Yeah I agree and hope they stay that course, but I could see them going in for a guy like Butler. Honestly, is the downgrade from Butler to DeRozan the difference of the amount of assets it would take to get Butler? At that point, I would rather keep all of our picks, sign DeRozan and Lowry to 2 year deals and revisit free agency again in 2023, but have an efficient scorer in DeRozan and a steady veteran point guard in Lowry around Randle and Barrett in the meantime.

[Rasho Brezec]

Play Randle like Giannis.

Barrett like Middleton.

Rose like Holiday.

That could work.

[spree2kawhi]

Play Randle like Giannis.

Barrett like Middleton.

Rose like Holiday.

That could work.

All this post reveals is, again, how much better contending teams are. None of our three guys will ever be as good as their counterparts are.