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Post#541 » by AirP. » Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:02 pm

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We all have thoughts based on incomplete info. I'm not that interested in speculating on this without more info. Just pointing out that there are 2 sides to a coin


They didn't resign Nunn to allow Tyler to be the #1 option off the bench and had him buy in on a 6th man of year candidate, adding Oladipo could have/should have altered that for Miami, being able to point towards "playing it safe" for Oladipo allowed Miami not have to deal with that situation until late into the season. Seeing Oladipo's athletic ability that first game he played this year and the small amount of social media posts based on his rehab it looks like Miami put him off as long as they could. Miami's done this type of shuffling of players on the active/inactive to players who may or may not need to be inactive all 3 years I've watched this team play. A.Bradley should have been back quicker last year and was left on the inactive list until he was traded last season and all of a sudden he's playing for Houston.


Nah. Dipo is back from 2 major injuries. It takes time. And he hasn't looked close to his former self. His quickness isn't back just yet. And he has missed games after his return because of rest. This doesn't scream to be a guy whose been held back. The heat aren't open with medical injuries that opens doors to speculation. But there was no conspiracy with Bosh, there wasn't with Keef and there isn't especially with Oladipo. And I think long-term its best that in the 1st season Oladipo is cautious. One more significant injury and he will be severely diminished

I think there was with "Keef", he was even putting out on social media he expected to return shortly in December and he was putting up shots with no worries a week after the incident, sorry but if you have something wrong with your neck or spine you're not going to just put up extra shots before or after games, you want to rest that injury.
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Post#542 » by oreon » Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:59 pm

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They didn't resign Nunn to allow Tyler to be the #1 option off the bench and had him buy in on a 6th man of year candidate, adding Oladipo could have/should have altered that for Miami, being able to point towards "playing it safe" for Oladipo allowed Miami not have to deal with that situation until late into the season. Seeing Oladipo's athletic ability that first game he played this year and the small amount of social media posts based on his rehab it looks like Miami put him off as long as they could. Miami's done this type of shuffling of players on the active/inactive to players who may or may not need to be inactive all 3 years I've watched this team play. A.Bradley should have been back quicker last year and was left on the inactive list until he was traded last season and all of a sudden he's playing for Houston.


Nah. Dipo is back from 2 major injuries. It takes time. And he hasn't looked close to his former self. His quickness isn't back just yet. And he has missed games after his return because of rest. This doesn't scream to be a guy whose been held back. The heat aren't open with medical injuries that opens doors to speculation. But there was no conspiracy with Bosh, there wasn't with Keef and there isn't especially with Oladipo. And I think long-term its best that in the 1st season Oladipo is cautious. One more significant injury and he will be severely diminished

I think there was with "Keef", he was even putting out on social media he expected to return shortly in December and he was putting up shots with no worries a week after the incident, sorry but if you have something wrong with your neck or spine you're not going to just put up extra shots before or after games, you want to rest that injury.


The keef thing had to do with nerves and the spine. When you see those two words together, you don't mess around with it. You can understand why the medical team was cautious in approving his return to play.
And the medical team isn't cautious all the time. Butler came back too early this season, you can see he's playing much better now than when he returned. Dragic & Bam came too early in playoffs. The speculation about Winslow rift was because the team thought he should play, then he gets traded and turns out there was actually something wrong as he sat out for the rest of the season.
In the 3 cases the team has been cautious there has been reasons why and it was the responsible right thing to do.
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Post#544 » by dshearn » Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:02 pm

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They didn't resign Nunn to allow Tyler to be the #1 option off the bench and had him buy in on a 6th man of year candidate, adding Oladipo could have/should have altered that for Miami, being able to point towards "playing it safe" for Oladipo allowed Miami not have to deal with that situation until late into the season. Seeing Oladipo's athletic ability that first game he played this year and the small amount of social media posts based on his rehab it looks like Miami put him off as long as they could. Miami's done this type of shuffling of players on the active/inactive to players who may or may not need to be inactive all 3 years I've watched this team play. A.Bradley should have been back quicker last year and was left on the inactive list until he was traded last season and all of a sudden he's playing for Houston.


Nah. Dipo is back from 2 major injuries. It takes time. And he hasn't looked close to his former self. His quickness isn't back just yet. And he has missed games after his return because of rest. This doesn't scream to be a guy whose been held back. The heat aren't open with medical injuries that opens doors to speculation. But there was no conspiracy with Bosh, there wasn't with Keef and there isn't especially with Oladipo. And I think long-term its best that in the 1st season Oladipo is cautious. One more significant injury and he will be severely diminished

I think there was with "Keef", he was even putting out on social media he expected to return shortly in December and he was putting up shots with no worries a week after the incident, sorry but if you have something wrong with your neck or spine you're not going to just put up extra shots before or after games, you want to rest that injury.



Yeah..... maybe....

There is a mentality aspect, and then there is the back/neck. Backs and Necks are complicated. From a first person point of view, I broke well fractured.. my foot, and ankle playing football. I was trying to run on it 3 weeks later, there is mind over matter, but what ended up actually happening is i was out 8 months and ended up with stress fractures in my lower leg from altering how i ran. one thing can lead to another. Years later i hurt my back, and 99.99% of the time zero issues now... I did years of Judo and Jujitsu with no issues, then one day no joke..i twisted in the shower to reach behind me for the shampoo and thought i had got SHOT...ever since then my back can flair up.

Backs and necks are weird as hell...

I don't think it's beyond a reasonable doubt he had a flair up, or tested in a way to cause Miami concern.

I think you and I agreed some time back it was likely some sort of "in the dog house" response and i still think that is the most likely scenario.
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Post#545 » by DayofMourning » Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:07 pm

dshearn wrote:Yeah..... maybe....

There is a mentality aspect, and then there is the back/neck. Backs and Necks are complicated. From a first person point of view, I broke well fractured.. my foot, and ankle playing football. I was trying to run on it 3 weeks later, there is mind over matter, but what ended up actually happening is i was out 8 months and ended up with stress fractures in my lower leg from altering how i ran. one thing can lead to another. Years later i hurt my back, and 99.99% of the time zero issues now... I did years of Judo and Jujitsu with no issues, then one day no joke..i twisted in the shower to reach behind me for the shampoo and thought i had got SHOT...ever since then my back can flair up.

Backs and necks are weird as hell...

I don't think it's beyond a reasonable doubt he had a flair up, or tested in a way to cause Miami concern.

I think you and I agreed some time back it was likely some sort of "in the dog house" response and i still think that is the most likely scenario.


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I moved into a new apartment in my early 20s and was sleeping on a blow up mattress with my GF. She decided that the whole mattress was hers and forced me off of it, to the point my ass was sticking out the bedroom window. Knocked the screen out. It got cold that night and the distorted sleeping position and change in temp did wonders to my neck. I was crippled for a week. I had to have help dressing myself. Can still feel that muscle tighten up to this day. Good stuff.
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Post#546 » by dshearn » Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:13 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:I think what's being ignored in the Dipo debate is the alternatives and his defense.

I agree that his fit with Jimmy and Lowry looked iffy. That makes sense. They all needed the ball to be effictive on offense.

But now that Duncan is coming off the bench, why not stagger Jimmy's and Dipo's minutes and have 1 of them on the court at all times?

Dipo is an experienced 2 way player. His defense is LIGHT YEARS ahead of Duncans. You let him play next to Herro as the secondary creator, and Bam doesn't really needs/wants the ball to create much.

When Jimmy and Lowry rest - It's Herro/Dipo time. You play them with Struss/Bam/Martin and that lineup can work on both sides. It takes pressure off of Herro to be the only facilitator when Jimmy is out. It upgrades the defense. And you still have good enough spacing.


Basically the point is - Dipo is a very good defender. He can defend 1-3 probably as well as anyone as the roster. He's savvy. He looked good physically lately.

I rather roll with him in the bench lineups. The upside is there, and the fit can be worked out with the right rotations.


VO the combo guard that ran the final game of the season would be absolutely perfect as the 6th man.

For a small stretch we had Lowery-VO-Martin on the floor at the same time...and the defense looked tight. They gave up some scores, but nothing was made that wasn't contested.

Duncan is going something to watch in the playoffs, unless Duncan is hitting for over 40% I can't see any reason Duncan should be on the floor before VO, Morris and Martin.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 4 

Post#547 » by dshearn » Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:19 pm

DayofMourning wrote:
dshearn wrote:Yeah..... maybe....

There is a mentality aspect, and then there is the back/neck. Backs and Necks are complicated. From a first person point of view, I broke well fractured.. my foot, and ankle playing football. I was trying to run on it 3 weeks later, there is mind over matter, but what ended up actually happening is i was out 8 months and ended up with stress fractures in my lower leg from altering how i ran. one thing can lead to another. Years later i hurt my back, and 99.99% of the time zero issues now... I did years of Judo and Jujitsu with no issues, then one day no joke..i twisted in the shower to reach behind me for the shampoo and thought i had got SHOT...ever since then my back can flair up.

Backs and necks are weird as hell...

I don't think it's beyond a reasonable doubt he had a flair up, or tested in a way to cause Miami concern.

I think you and I agreed some time back it was likely some sort of "in the dog house" response and i still think that is the most likely scenario.


Show and tell time!

I moved into a new apartment in my early 20s and was sleeping on a blow up mattress with my GF. She decided that the whole mattress was hers and forced me off of it, to the point my ass was sticking out the bedroom window. Knocked the screen out. It got cold that night and the distorted sleeping position and change in temp did wonders to my neck. I was crippled for a week. I had to have help dressing myself. Can still feel that muscle tighten up to this day. Good stuff.


I can just imagine kids going to school that morning... " hey dad...some guy next door with Heat Boxers on had his butt sticking out the window for hours this morning....."


I feel for you amigo, the nervous system is odd as hell...it sure seems that once you mess it up once it might never be right again.

Youre going to think I am full of it, but next time you feel your neck acting up, go get yourself and Opus X cigar. They are wonderful cigars, but the high nicotine content is a hell of a pain killer.
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Post#548 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:29 pm

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Post#549 » by AirP. » Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:26 am

dshearn wrote:
Yeah..... maybe....

There is a mentality aspect, and then there is the back/neck. Backs and Necks are complicated. From a first person point of view, I broke well fractured.. my foot, and ankle playing football. I was trying to run on it 3 weeks later, there is mind over matter, but what ended up actually happening is i was out 8 months and ended up with stress fractures in my lower leg from altering how i ran. one thing can lead to another. Years later i hurt my back, and 99.99% of the time zero issues now... I did years of Judo and Jujitsu with no issues, then one day no joke..i twisted in the shower to reach behind me for the shampoo and thought i had got SHOT...ever since then my back can flair up.

Backs and necks are weird as hell...

I don't think it's beyond a reasonable doubt he had a flair up, or tested in a way to cause Miami concern.

I think you and I agreed some time back it was likely some sort of "in the dog house" response and i still think that is the most likely scenario.

On Morris, he was back on the court shooting shots a week after the initial injury in Denver, if he had real issues I don't believe the Heat would have allowed him to do that before or after games at Heat facilities. I absolutely think he was in the dog house for that shot he gave Jokic before Jokic retaliated, that was a pretty stupid hard foul to give to a star.
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Post#550 » by greg4012 » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:28 pm

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Nah. Dipo is back from 2 major injuries. It takes time. And he hasn't looked close to his former self. His quickness isn't back just yet. And he has missed games after his return because of rest. This doesn't scream to be a guy whose been held back. The heat aren't open with medical injuries that opens doors to speculation. But there was no conspiracy with Bosh, there wasn't with Keef and there isn't especially with Oladipo. And I think long-term its best that in the 1st season Oladipo is cautious. One more significant injury and he will be severely diminished

I think there was with "Keef", he was even putting out on social media he expected to return shortly in December and he was putting up shots with no worries a week after the incident, sorry but if you have something wrong with your neck or spine you're not going to just put up extra shots before or after games, you want to rest that injury.



Yeah..... maybe....

There is a mentality aspect, and then there is the back/neck. Backs and Necks are complicated. From a first person point of view, I broke well fractured.. my foot, and ankle playing football. I was trying to run on it 3 weeks later, there is mind over matter, but what ended up actually happening is i was out 8 months and ended up with stress fractures in my lower leg from altering how i ran. one thing can lead to another. Years later i hurt my back, and 99.99% of the time zero issues now... I did years of Judo and Jujitsu with no issues, then one day no joke..i twisted in the shower to reach behind me for the shampoo and thought i had got SHOT...ever since then my back can flair up.

Backs and necks are weird as hell...

I don't think it's beyond a reasonable doubt he had a flair up, or tested in a way to cause Miami concern.

I think you and I agreed some time back it was likely some sort of "in the dog house" response and i still think that is the most likely scenario.



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Post#552 » by greg4012 » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:53 pm

https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/2338119/amp

Anatomy of an NBA champion: Which 2022 teams fit the statistical profile?

The Suns ran away from the pack this season, finishing eight games clear of second-place Memphis, so it's no surprise that Phoenix is the only team to check every box required of a modern champion.

The league-leading Suns finished with the NBA's best point differential, a top-five offense, a top-three defense, and had more road victories (32) than any team compiled at home. In addition, both Devin Booker and Chris Paul are All-NBA candidates, while Monty Williams and Mikal Bridges are firmly in the discussion for Coach of the Year and Defensive Player of the Year, respectively.

If the numbers - and recent history - tell us anything, it's that the Suns are on their way to finishing what they started when they lost in The Finals last summer.

Potential outliers: Heat, Warriors

Miami finished one spot away in offensive efficiency from joining Phoenix as a team with undeniable championship pedigree. Golden State is held back by the offensive side of the ball. If Steph Curry is good to go for Game 1 against Denver, however, it's hard to imagine Curry can't once again spearhead a championship attack, especially with the recent return of Draymond Green, a rounding-into-form Klay Thompson, and Most Improved Player candidate Jordan Poole alongside him.


I recommend reading the whole article. Also consider the fact that the Heat are second to only Phoenix in meeting the thresholds of this assessment despite the following:

(1) Being one of the teams most affected by Games Lost this season

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(2) Having a team full of veterans that were absolutely picking their spots in the regular season working towards the playoffs (see Lowry and Butler)

(3) Team personnel and fit were built specifically for the playoffs
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Post#553 » by Shewasfly » Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:34 pm

dshearn wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:I think what's being ignored in the Dipo debate is the alternatives and his defense.

I agree that his fit with Jimmy and Lowry looked iffy. That makes sense. They all needed the ball to be effictive on offense.

But now that Duncan is coming off the bench, why not stagger Jimmy's and Dipo's minutes and have 1 of them on the court at all times?

Dipo is an experienced 2 way player. His defense is LIGHT YEARS ahead of Duncans. You let him play next to Herro as the secondary creator, and Bam doesn't really needs/wants the ball to create much.

When Jimmy and Lowry rest - It's Herro/Dipo time. You play them with Struss/Bam/Martin and that lineup can work on both sides. It takes pressure off of Herro to be the only facilitator when Jimmy is out. It upgrades the defense. And you still have good enough spacing.


Basically the point is - Dipo is a very good defender. He can defend 1-3 probably as well as anyone as the roster. He's savvy. He looked good physically lately.

I rather roll with him in the bench lineups. The upside is there, and the fit can be worked out with the right rotations.


VO the combo guard that ran the final game of the season would be absolutely perfect as the 6th man.


For a small stretch we had Lowery-VO-Martin on the floor at the same time...and the defense looked tight. They gave up some scores, but nothing was made that wasn't contested.

Duncan is going something to watch in the playoffs, unless Duncan is hitting for over 40% I can't see any reason Duncan should be on the floor before VO, Morris and Martin.


Precisely.

I know it will never happen this year, but in my ideal world Spo stops playing around and inserts Tyler into the starting lineup. He's wrapped up the 6MOY, now its time to stop being cute. This is the playoffs, and you put your best lineup out on the floor from the onset. Dipo can then take on Tyler's role, which would be an easier fit for everyone because he really doesn't have to share the ball with anyone in that lineup, and can take on the role he's used to, similar to when he played with scrubs to close out the season.

At the very least I am happy Strus is finally in there now over Duncan. I expect Spo to stick with that because it works (and he should have done it a long time ago). But Tyler in the SL has to be the move eventually, and its essentially what we run to close games already. Hopefully they are shoring up that lineup so those lapses we saw to close games aren't happening in the playoffs.
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Post#554 » by IceColdCubano » Fri Apr 15, 2022 4:49 pm

Shewasfly wrote:
dshearn wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:I think what's being ignored in the Dipo debate is the alternatives and his defense.

I agree that his fit with Jimmy and Lowry looked iffy. That makes sense. They all needed the ball to be effictive on offense.

But now that Duncan is coming off the bench, why not stagger Jimmy's and Dipo's minutes and have 1 of them on the court at all times?

Dipo is an experienced 2 way player. His defense is LIGHT YEARS ahead of Duncans. You let him play next to Herro as the secondary creator, and Bam doesn't really needs/wants the ball to create much.

When Jimmy and Lowry rest - It's Herro/Dipo time. You play them with Struss/Bam/Martin and that lineup can work on both sides. It takes pressure off of Herro to be the only facilitator when Jimmy is out. It upgrades the defense. And you still have good enough spacing.


Basically the point is - Dipo is a very good defender. He can defend 1-3 probably as well as anyone as the roster. He's savvy. He looked good physically lately.

I rather roll with him in the bench lineups. The upside is there, and the fit can be worked out with the right rotations.


VO the combo guard that ran the final game of the season would be absolutely perfect as the 6th man.


For a small stretch we had Lowery-VO-Martin on the floor at the same time...and the defense looked tight. They gave up some scores, but nothing was made that wasn't contested.

Duncan is going something to watch in the playoffs, unless Duncan is hitting for over 40% I can't see any reason Duncan should be on the floor before VO, Morris and Martin.


Precisely.

I know it will never happen this year, but in my ideal world Spo stops playing around and inserts Tyler into the starting lineup. He's wrapped up the 6MOY, now its time to stop being cute. This is the playoffs, and you put your best lineup out on the floor from the onset. Dipo can then take on Tyler's role, which would be an easier fit for everyone because he really doesn't have to share the ball with anyone in that lineup, and can take on the role he's used to, similar to when he played with scrubs to close out the season.

At the very least I am happy Strus is finally in there now over Duncan. I expect Spo to stick with that because it works (and he should have done it a long time ago). But Tyler in the SL has to be the move eventually, and its essentially what we run to close games already. Hopefully they are shoring up that lineup so those lapses we saw to close games aren't happening in the playoffs.

Should we do it starting from game 1 as a fan of this team, and somebody who reads through the analytics of the benefits vs cons, absolutely yes. Will our coaching staff do it, No I don't believe they would. Knowing how Spo and staff work if its working don't fck with it. (Don't look farther than the change to replace Duncan in the starting lineup. Duncan was playing terrible all season but because we were still winning Spo kept it going until it became an actual issue, ie losing streak. Even when all the analytics kept showing Duncan had us struggling during his minutes in the lineup always playing from behind). I think if it happens it would happen in a series either coming from behind or in a series were were on equal footing but Tyler is killing the other team and the only one keeping us in it. I would say possibility of this happening in the ECF or in the NBA Finals.
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Post#555 » by AirP. » Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:41 pm

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dshearn wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:I think what's being ignored in the Dipo debate is the alternatives and his defense.

I agree that his fit with Jimmy and Lowry looked iffy. That makes sense. They all needed the ball to be effictive on offense.

But now that Duncan is coming off the bench, why not stagger Jimmy's and Dipo's minutes and have 1 of them on the court at all times?

Dipo is an experienced 2 way player. His defense is LIGHT YEARS ahead of Duncans. You let him play next to Herro as the secondary creator, and Bam doesn't really needs/wants the ball to create much.

When Jimmy and Lowry rest - It's Herro/Dipo time. You play them with Struss/Bam/Martin and that lineup can work on both sides. It takes pressure off of Herro to be the only facilitator when Jimmy is out. It upgrades the defense. And you still have good enough spacing.


Basically the point is - Dipo is a very good defender. He can defend 1-3 probably as well as anyone as the roster. He's savvy. He looked good physically lately.

I rather roll with him in the bench lineups. The upside is there, and the fit can be worked out with the right rotations.


VO the combo guard that ran the final game of the season would be absolutely perfect as the 6th man.


For a small stretch we had Lowery-VO-Martin on the floor at the same time...and the defense looked tight. They gave up some scores, but nothing was made that wasn't contested.

Duncan is going something to watch in the playoffs, unless Duncan is hitting for over 40% I can't see any reason Duncan should be on the floor before VO, Morris and Martin.


Precisely.

I know it will never happen this year, but in my ideal world Spo stops playing around and inserts Tyler into the starting lineup. He's wrapped up the 6MOY, now its time to stop being cute. This is the playoffs, and you put your best lineup out on the floor from the onset. Dipo can then take on Tyler's role, which would be an easier fit for everyone because he really doesn't have to share the ball with anyone in that lineup, and can take on the role he's used to, similar to when he played with scrubs to close out the season.

At the very least I am happy Strus is finally in there now over Duncan. I expect Spo to stick with that because it works (and he should have done it a long time ago). But Tyler in the SL has to be the move eventually, and its essentially what we run to close games already. Hopefully they are shoring up that lineup so those lapses we saw to close games aren't happening in the playoffs.


In my ideal world Miami would be starting Lowry, Oladipo, Butler, Tucker and Bam to have no holes in the defense and a good offense to start and end games(3 decent 3pt shooters in Lowry, Oladipo and Tucker for spacing), the backups, I'd bring in Herro, Dedmon, Strus, Martin and possibly Vincent then spread out the defense and let Herro try to utilize the space and expect that group to shoot almost all 3s except for easy shots at the basket, basically 2 completely different ways of playing, yes the 2nd team will be bad defensively but they can make that up with their 3pt shooting. If the backups are hitting 3s you can rest your starters more throughout the game.
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Post#556 » by somerandomdude » Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:42 pm

Heat guard Tyler Herro’s body of work includes muscling up to the competition

“I would say when he came up this past summer,” Becker said, “I was like, ‘Wow, OK, he does physically look more built.’ And I saw the same changes. When I saw him, in the summer, that was like, ‘Wow, this is the Tyler that I thought that we would see.’

“And I still think he is going to be that 205 type of player, and he’s going to be able to have a nice, defined upper body. And he’s got really strong legs, if you look at it. So I imagine he’s going to have a really nice offseason and we’re going to continually see that growth.”

...

“And he lost bodyfat, too. So he gained weight, he gained 10 pounds, but his bodyfat dropped during that time, too.”


Good read. That last part is interesting. I look at a guy like Donovan Mitchell who's 215lbs but 4in shorter than Herro and think that Herro will fill that in the future, but if he's losing body fat, he might be closer to that (assuming that would be a goal of his).
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 4 

Post#557 » by dshearn » Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:44 pm

AirP. wrote:
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VO the combo guard that ran the final game of the season would be absolutely perfect as the 6th man.


For a small stretch we had Lowery-VO-Martin on the floor at the same time...and the defense looked tight. They gave up some scores, but nothing was made that wasn't contested.

Duncan is going something to watch in the playoffs, unless Duncan is hitting for over 40% I can't see any reason Duncan should be on the floor before VO, Morris and Martin.


Precisely.

I know it will never happen this year, but in my ideal world Spo stops playing around and inserts Tyler into the starting lineup. He's wrapped up the 6MOY, now its time to stop being cute. This is the playoffs, and you put your best lineup out on the floor from the onset. Dipo can then take on Tyler's role, which would be an easier fit for everyone because he really doesn't have to share the ball with anyone in that lineup, and can take on the role he's used to, similar to when he played with scrubs to close out the season.

At the very least I am happy Strus is finally in there now over Duncan. I expect Spo to stick with that because it works (and he should have done it a long time ago). But Tyler in the SL has to be the move eventually, and its essentially what we run to close games already. Hopefully they are shoring up that lineup so those lapses we saw to close games aren't happening in the playoffs.


In my ideal world Miami would be starting Lowry, Oladipo, Butler, Tucker and Bam to have no holes in the defense and a good offense to start and end games(3 decent 3pt shooters in Lowry, Oladipo and Tucker for spacing), the backups, I'd bring in Herro, Dedmon, Strus, Martin and possibly Vincent then spread out the defense and let Herro try to utilize the space and expect that group to shoot almost all 3s except for easy shots at the basket, basically 2 completely different ways of playing, yes the 2nd team will be bad defensively but they can make that up with their 3pt shooting. If the backups are hitting 3s you can rest your starters more throughout the game.


whatever it is we do, we kill 4s and there shot from 3.

Starts out of this world, and dies at the end of the season.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 4 

Post#558 » by AirP. » Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:52 pm

dshearn wrote:
AirP. wrote:
Shewasfly wrote:
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Precisely.

I know it will never happen this year, but in my ideal world Spo stops playing around and inserts Tyler into the starting lineup. He's wrapped up the 6MOY, now its time to stop being cute. This is the playoffs, and you put your best lineup out on the floor from the onset. Dipo can then take on Tyler's role, which would be an easier fit for everyone because he really doesn't have to share the ball with anyone in that lineup, and can take on the role he's used to, similar to when he played with scrubs to close out the season.

At the very least I am happy Strus is finally in there now over Duncan. I expect Spo to stick with that because it works (and he should have done it a long time ago). But Tyler in the SL has to be the move eventually, and its essentially what we run to close games already. Hopefully they are shoring up that lineup so those lapses we saw to close games aren't happening in the playoffs.


In my ideal world Miami would be starting Lowry, Oladipo, Butler, Tucker and Bam to have no holes in the defense and a good offense to start and end games(3 decent 3pt shooters in Lowry, Oladipo and Tucker for spacing), the backups, I'd bring in Herro, Dedmon, Strus, Martin and possibly Vincent then spread out the defense and let Herro try to utilize the space and expect that group to shoot almost all 3s except for easy shots at the basket, basically 2 completely different ways of playing, yes the 2nd team will be bad defensively but they can make that up with their 3pt shooting. If the backups are hitting 3s you can rest your starters more throughout the game.


whatever it is we do, we kill 4s and there shot from 3.

Starts out of this world, and dies at the end of the season.


Miami runs with 4s past their prime, the only one in the last 3 years that wasn't was Crowder.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 4 

Post#559 » by dshearn » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:11 pm

AirP. wrote:
dshearn wrote:
AirP. wrote:
In my ideal world Miami would be starting Lowry, Oladipo, Butler, Tucker and Bam to have no holes in the defense and a good offense to start and end games(3 decent 3pt shooters in Lowry, Oladipo and Tucker for spacing), the backups, I'd bring in Herro, Dedmon, Strus, Martin and possibly Vincent then spread out the defense and let Herro try to utilize the space and expect that group to shoot almost all 3s except for easy shots at the basket, basically 2 completely different ways of playing, yes the 2nd team will be bad defensively but they can make that up with their 3pt shooting. If the backups are hitting 3s you can rest your starters more throughout the game.


whatever it is we do, we kill 4s and there shot from 3.

Starts out of this world, and dies at the end of the season.


Miami runs with 4s past their prime, the only one in the last 3 years that wasn't was Crowder.


we broke him too... lol......

lol we should not sign 4s until the end of the season, Miami gets them off to a hot start.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 4 

Post#560 » by AirP. » Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:04 pm

dshearn wrote:
AirP. wrote:
dshearn wrote:
whatever it is we do, we kill 4s and there shot from 3.

Starts out of this world, and dies at the end of the season.


Miami runs with 4s past their prime, the only one in the last 3 years that wasn't was Crowder.


we broke him too... lol......

lol we should not sign 4s until the end of the season, Miami gets them off to a hot start.

Could get a younger one like they were looking at, at the trade deadline, PJ Washington or Rui.

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