eyriq wrote:VFX wrote:This has been explained maybe a hundred times on this forum for the last decade plus.
Players get better at things they are already proficient at doing. Exceptional talents like Franz become elite at what they already do. Suggs will sharpen his already elite defensive ability with experience.
It is anomalous that players develop skillsets they simply have not shown AT ALL 2-3 seasons in the league with significant playing time. Paolo can become an average defender. He will never be great. AB can become average at running an offense in his prime. He will never be elite, possibly never a starting quality table setter. Get it?
Young players get slightly better over time with experience. AB doesn’t become SGA simply because he gets older and put on nba miles. Thats an anomaly you are talking about at a .0001% chance of happening.
The failures of this team aren’t solved with time. They are solved with proper construction people have been screaming about for going on 3 seasons now. They are solved with coaching that isn’t sub AAU circuit IQ on offense.
People are just now seeing this smack them in the face because they were incapable of grasping it at the time. Like I argue here with mods for 2+ seasons and I’m told I’m chicken little. What now? Well it’s too late so those conversations won’t materialize again and I hate that I was right. Too bad I guess.
People need to see terrible results for some reason before they start drawing obvious conclusions because skillsets exist and progression isn’t ultimately linear. These things aren’t hard to see when you simply look at contracts handed out and skillsets matching a functioning offense.
Paolo has the skill set of a first option, as does Franz. Both will improve as they enter their primes. Both are years away from the primes. Both will see drastic improvements in performance from now till their prime as a result. Their fit is terrific, they've led the team in back-to-back +12 & +13 win seasons. This season has stalled out due to injuries.
That's a fair and obvious assessment and has been explained maybe a hundred times on this forum.
If you have a build around two guys that can both be first options and All Star first options at that in their primes that's a good damn build.
Suggs and AB are the other main players being developed. Both are in the same archetype IMO, but still have different strengths and weaknesses. Suggs is higher usage and probably a more aggressive scorer, AB is a better playmaker and probably a more efficient scorer. Suggs development is probably getting derailed by injuries, AB is now ahead of where Suggs was developmentally at the same age.
The supporting cast needs a complete overhaul, you'll get no argument from me there. I've consistently said that this doesn't matter though right now we're focused on developing our four main players.
Completely disagree.
The orange is something that I just discussed. It's dependent on three factors: time, health, and positive development around the correct players. This only happens IF those three things trend properly. Weltman has FAILED on that last component. Is it easier for Anthony Edwards or Cade Cunningham to develop? That answer is obvious. Same draft pick 1 year apart in vastly different situations.
The red has been proven WRONG already. This is merely something you HOPE. Now, that might change if the system changes entirely. Thats the only way that statement is anywhere close to true. They are largely inefficient on heavy usage together. This information existed last season. "Supporting cast" is not anyone who is a consistent starter if we are playing the semantics game.
The blue is what Weltman will say despite last seasons results and 4 years of no trades. This is a talking point that will be repeated despite the eye test.
