Knightro wrote:VFX wrote:I just have a hard time believing any move that would be made, for the names previously listed, would result in a roster with Kentavious Caldwell Pope and his $23m contract off the bench.
I would understand keeping him should they not be making moves to acquire another perimeter player. It just doesn’t make sense cap-wise to keep him. Hes being paid serious starter money.
Like, are people going to argue that Weltman is gonna trade 2-3 mid to low tier players, plus a non lotto pick, for a legitimate starter and STILL pay KCP that contract? I don’t. Simons is $27m, Sexton is $20m, and Reaves is $14m comparatively before their next deals.
Now do I believe Weltman has the balls to do that after signing him last offseason? No. However, he should if he knows what’s good for the team. KCP is easier to move than Cole Anthony, Isaac, etc. from these packages we’ve seen and moving him balances out in most of these trades.
Maybe I’m in the minority, but I think it’s more likely KCP stays and comes off the bench than it is he’s traded for a variety of reasons.
I don’t think many teams, especially with the guy coming off a down year, are exactly beating down the doors for the two years, 43.2M left on KCP’s contract.
I think if the Magic acquire a quality guard and if Suggs is healthy, you can start the two of them and then soak up all the minutes at the back 1-2-3 spots (Black playing 1/2, KCP playing 2/3) between Black and KCP with both guys getting 25+ minutes a night.
I suspect Suggs will be sub 30 MPG next year coming off a significant knee surgery.
The big thing in terms of the CBA is that you don’t want to be in the 2nd apron for multiple years in a row, and with the Magic not really being in any danger of being above the 2nd apron this upcoming year, and KCP only having one year left after this, I think they’re ultimately fine keeping him because he’ll come off the books before things get into real financial hell.
Yeah the money is only part of the issue though.
Yeah, I don’t care if he’s off the books in another year. You dont want to actually get assets for him and instead of believing fodder plus picks is a better move? Do we not also want rookie scale guys to mitigate Franz and Paolo maxes in two seasons while we have picks?
The alternative to merely trading KCP, one player that equals most of the names thrown around here, for the same 2-4 names that equal nowhere in value return. Willing to give up multiple picks and roster spots just to have a guy come off the bench and play defense. Kind of stupid.
You have potentially a 4 player back court rotation between Suggs, AB, KCP, and a player yet to be acquired. What are AB and KCP providing that is entirely different in their roles? Thats your bench? Seems rough offensively.
Like homers here are lying to themselves basically with a lot of these trades that either devolve into a BIG overpay or think adding 3-4 trash contracts together gets you a starting solution in the back court that KCP was supposedly paid to be by Weltmans estimation.
Like what is even the upside here with KCP? You have him come off the bench and just bide your time until his deal is up and then what? They’ve developed nothing out of that decision if that’s the case.
All this being said I don’t think Weltman moves him because of these handshakes that GMs have with players. Like don’t worry we won’t move you one year into your deal after you buy a house in Orlando etc. His signing was just stupid in a long line of stupid decisions and indecisions.
