Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)

Skin · Post #561 » by **Skin** » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:06 pm

Shabazz ONLY goes left. Until he learns how to attack going right, NBA defenses will shut him down.

thelead · Post #562 » by **thelead** » Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:31 pm

Skin wrote:Shabazz ONLY goes left. Until he learns how to attack going right, NBA defenses will shut him down.

And he doesn't pass. If double teamed in or near the paint, he just jacks up a shot.

Post #563 » by **Bensational** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:22 am

Shabazz is a prolific scorer, and that's the fundamental ingredient for becoming a superstar. I'm very intrigued by him.

McLemore is a nice all round player, but I can't tell if he's got the scoring instinct to really take over a game at the next level.

Still, these guys are only 19 and have a lot more games to play. Will be good to watch them. I'd be happy if we had either as a prospect going forward.

Skin · Post #564 » by **Skin** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:06 am

So with these kinds of names being talked about are you guys ok with the losing that will have to happen in order to make it possible?

Post #565 » by **Bensational** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:32 am

Skin wrote:So with these kinds of names being talked about are you guys ok with the losing that will have to happen in order to make it possible?

It's possible as long as you're in the lottery. I think what you mean is "are you OK with losing more to improve your chances?".

Cashin out · Post #566 » by **Cashin out** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:41 am

Some dude posted in the general board that Demarcus Cousins will land with either of these 4 teams Orlando/Charlotte/Boston/Dallas.

What do you think you guys would give up to get him?

thelead · Post #567 » by **thelead** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:22 am

Cashin out wrote:Some dude posted in the general board that Demarcus Cousins will land with either of these 4 teams Orlando/Charlotte/Boston/Dallas.

What do you think you guys would give up to get him?

Not a whole lot considering his issues. It would probably have to start with JJ though. I wouldn't give up any of our future 1st either. I don't see Orlando as a spot for him. Charlotte or Dallas is way more likely. I don't see what Boston could give up to get him though.

Post #568 » by **Def Swami** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:29 am

Cashin out wrote:Some dude posted in the general board that Demarcus Cousins will land with either of these 4 teams Orlando/Charlotte/Boston/Dallas.

What do you think you guys would give up to get him?

Just caught this on twitter too. Not sure of its legitimacy.

FreshHoops.com ‏@FreshHoops
A source tells Kentucky Sports Radio that DeMarcus Cousins could be traded "soon" to Boston, Dallas, Orlando or Charlotte.

I'm on the DMC bandwagon. Not sure what we'd offer though. I think the other 3 teams might have better assets they'd be willing to part with.

Post #569 » by **Def Swami** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:31 am

thelead wrote:
Cashin out wrote:Some dude posted in the general board that Demarcus Cousins will land with either of these 4 teams Orlando/Charlotte/Boston/Dallas.

What do you think you guys would give up to get him?

Not a whole lot considering his issues. It would probably have to start with JJ though. I wouldn't give up any of our future 1st either. I don't see Orlando as a spot for him. Charlotte or Dallas is way more likely. I don't see what Boston could give up to get him though.

Bradley, Fab Melo, and Sullinger I suppose is what they'd offer. Maybe Jeff Green is an option?

Post #570 » by **Def Swami** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:46 am

Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO
NBA GM wouldn't be specific, but says "if what I hear is true," Kings will have tough time turning down Bobcats' offer for DeMarcus Cousins.

If Charlotte is in the hunt for DMC, they could easily out-bid anyone imo.

Cigamodnalro · Post #571 » by **Cigamodnalro** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:46 am

Didn't he just hire Dan Fegan last week? We won't touch that.

thelead · Post #572 » by **thelead** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:09 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:
Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO
NBA GM wouldn't be specific, but says "if what I hear is true," Kings will have tough time turning down Bobcats' offer for DeMarcus Cousins.

If Charlotte is in the hunt for DMC, they could easily out-bid anyone imo.

I highly doubt they give up MKG. So it's probably centered around this year's unprotected 1st.

RickB-Orlando · Post #573 » by **RickB-Orlando** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:41 am

thelead wrote:
VGOSWAMI wrote:
Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO
NBA GM wouldn't be specific, but says "if what I hear is true," Kings will have tough time turning down Bobcats' offer for DeMarcus Cousins.

If Charlotte is in the hunt for DMC, they could easily out-bid anyone imo.

I highly doubt they give up MKG. So it's probably centered around this year's unprotected 1st.

I'd be willing to trade an unprotected first in this years draft for DMC. He's better than any prospect in this year's draft class. The questin is can JV get his head working right. If he can, then it's a no brainer.

blue and white · Post #574 » by **blue and white** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:41 am

Getting DMC is great in theory but in reality hes a headcase diva who will likely never live up to his capabilities and I just dont want anymore of that for a while. And the pieces it would take to get him I wouldnt be willing to give up cause I think Vuc can be just as good, nicholson is smart and better offensively and Moe has serious upside and needs more time before we get rid of him

glennathan · Post #575 » by **glennathan** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:09 am

blue and white wrote:Getting DMC is great in theory but in reality hes a headcase diva who will likely never live up to his capabilities and I just dont want anymore of that for a while. And the pieces it would take to get him I wouldnt be willing to give up cause I think Vuc can be just as good, nicholson is smart and better offensively and Moe has serious upside and needs more time before we get rid of him

Would you consider a package of JJ and McRoberts for him?

BrettC03 · Post #576 » by **BrettC03** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:10 am

DMC is a headcase and goes against everything we're trying to establish here in ORL. Apparently SAC is looking for veteran bigs for DMC anyway, which we lack other than Davis/Harrington. I think he'd be a perfect fit with KG in bean town, but they'd need a third team to sweeten the deal.

Cigamodnalro · Post #577 » by **Cigamodnalro** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:30 am

Magic trade: Nik Vucevic, Arron Afflalo, BBD, E'Twaun Moore, future pick (?)
Magic receive: Greg Monroe, Tyreke Evans, Chuck Hayes contract, Will Bynum

Pistons trade: Greg Monroe, Kyle Singler, Will Bynum
Receive: Demarcus Cousins, JJ Redick, E'Twaun Moore

Kings trade: DMC, Tyreke Evans, Chuck Hayes contract
Receive: Nik Vucevic, Arron Afflalo, Glen Davis, Kyle Singler, future pick (?)

Skin · Post #578 » by **Skin** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:39 am

Cigamodnalro wrote:Magic trade: Nik Vucevic, Arron Afflalo, BBD, E'Twaun Moore, future pick (?)
Magic receive: Greg Monroe, Tyreke Evans, Chuck Hayes contract, Will Bynum

Pistons trade: Greg Monroe, Kyle Singler, Will Bynum
Receive: Demarcus Cousins, JJ Redick, E'Twaun Moore

Kings trade: DMC, Tyreke Evans, Chuck Hayes contract
Receive: Nik Vucevic, Arron Afflalo, Glen Davis, Kyle Singler, future pick (?)

Tyreke Evans is the epitome of what I don't want here. He's the reason SAC sucks.

Creative thought though. I love Monroe.

Cigamodnalro · Post #579 » by **Cigamodnalro** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:43 am

Skin wrote:
Cigamodnalro wrote:Magic trade: Nik Vucevic, Arron Afflalo, BBD, E'Twaun Moore, future pick (?)
Magic receive: Greg Monroe, Tyreke Evans, Chuck Hayes contract, Will Bynum

Pistons trade: Greg Monroe, Kyle Singler, Will Bynum
Receive: Demarcus Cousins, JJ Redick, E'Twaun Moore

Kings trade: DMC, Tyreke Evans, Chuck Hayes contract
Receive: Nik Vucevic, Arron Afflalo, Glen Davis, Kyle Singler, future pick (?)

Tyreke Evans is the epitome of what I don't want here. He's the reason SAC sucks.

Creative thought though. I love Monroe.

So take out AA and Tyreke. Same idea

Magic trade: Nik Vucevic, JJ Redick, BBD, E'Twaun Moore, future pick
Magic receive: Greg Monroe, Chuck Hayes contract, Will Bynum, Tyler Honeycutt

Pistons trade: Greg Monroe, Kyle Singler, Will Bynum
Receive: Demarcus Cousins, JJ Redick, E'Twaun Moore

Kings trade: DMC, Chuck Hayes contract, Tyler Honeycutt
Receive: Nik Vucevic, Glen Davis, Kyle Singler, future pick (?)

glennathan · Post #580 » by **glennathan** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:44 am

Cigamodnalro wrote:Magic trade: Nik Vucevic, Arron Afflalo, BBD, E'Twaun Moore, future pick (?)
Magic receive: Greg Monroe, Tyreke Evans, Chuck Hayes contract, Will Bynum

Pistons trade: Greg Monroe, Kyle Singler, Will Bynum
Receive: Demarcus Cousins, JJ Redick, E'Twaun Moore

Kings trade: DMC, Tyreke Evans, Chuck Hayes contract
Receive: Nik Vucevic, Arron Afflalo, Glen Davis, Kyle Singler, future pick (?)

Creative like Skin said. While I like the idea of getting Tyreke I do not like giving up Vucevic. I think he really could be the starting center of the future for us. E'Twaun Moore is a lot like Keyon Dooling was in the instant energy combo guard package. I would want to keep him as well. Also Big Baby has played well for us so if he is replaced by Josh McRobets I am okay with the deal