LA LAKERS 2017-18 Pick Watch Thread * Keep an eye on Brooklyn *

klemen4 · Post #561 » by **klemen4** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:53 pm

With West being super strong, there is chance Lakers finish bottom 5.

For sure in East CHI and ATL look far the worst teams. Than NY is one Poryingis unjury away to tank.

Than lets add PHO...thats 4 teams. SAC is hard to say, they have some talent, but very young, still they have 3 veterans...probably they will be in bottom 5. Than DAL looks like prime candidate to tank, Dirk is not dirk any more...

CHI
PHO
ATL
NY
SAC
DAL

IND will probably compete, they always did than even when they did not have chance for playoffs.
Brooklyn will compete, there pick goes to CLE.

So LAKERS probably will finish in 6. - 8. range...

But could be close...

jirrit · Post #562 » by **jirrit** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:56 pm

klemen4 wrote:Brooklyn will compete, there pick goes to CLE.

So LAKERS probably will finish in 6. - 8. range...

But could be close...

Last year they wouldn't cause it went to us? ;-)

I think you can't put a range on it, unless the range is 1-10 IMO. We'll see what happens and the range will get smaller throughout the season. Been there, done that with that Nets-pick. =)

VeryMuchWoke · Post #563 » by **VeryMuchWoke** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:18 pm

chris4celts wrote:I don't see this pick conveying this year. Too many bad teams that are likely worse than Lakers. Nets, Bulls, Hawks, Suns, Kings, Knicks, Mavs.

With the exception of the Nets, all those teams have incentive to tank. I hope I'm wrong. Please convince me otherwise.

Even if I'm wrong, and top 1 protected 1st from the Kings next year is a great consolation prize. And next year, even if the Kings finish with the worst record, there is only a 14 percent chance of the pick not conveying (top 1 protected in a revamped lottery system).

I'm with you on Suns/Bulls, but lets keep in mind that the Lakers barely edged out the Suns and that's with a huge game from Lonzo. Hawks, Kings, Nets and Mavs should be better than the Lakers in my mind, but 1-2 could end up worse if they embrace the tank. I expect the Lakers to finish somewhere between 3nd and 6th worse.

Top 5 odds would be:

2nd worst: 100% (19.9% #1) --> 80.1% chance of conveying.
3rd worst: 96% (15.6% #1) --> 80.4% chance of conveying.
4th worst: 82.8% (11.9% #1) --> 70.9% chance of conveying.
5th worst: 55.2% (8.8% #1) --> 46.5% chance of conveying.
6th worst: 21.5% (6.3% #1) --> 15.2% chance of conveying.
7th worst: 15% (4.3% #1) --> 10.7% chance of conveying

If you take 2-7 as equally likely, which I think is about right, our chance of getting the pick is 50.63% (#2 - 11.47%, #3 - 11.77, #4 - 10.73%, #5 - 16.67%).

LarryBirdsFingr · Post #564 » by **LarryBirdsFingr** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:44 pm

Ill cream if we end up with something 2-5

3D Chess · Post #565 » by **3D Chess** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:58 pm

Go Nets.

3D Chess · Post #566 » by **3D Chess** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:03 pm

DAR is kinda that dude.

Homerclease · Post #567 » by **Homerclease** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:06 pm

LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Ill cream if we end up with something 2-5

It's gonna happen. Zero question about it

3D Chess · Post #568 » by **3D Chess** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:12 pm

Lakers season going wrong-ish for Doncic.

Homerclease · Post #569 » by **Homerclease** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:14 pm

3D Chess wrote:Lakers season going wrong-ish for Doncic.

Ayton. See him in the Arizona intersquad scrimmage?

Avalanche · Post #570 » by **Avalanche** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:16 pm

One thing for sure...

If we still had the Nets pick this season there's a few people who would be losing their minds at their 2-1 record right now :lol:

DK-All Day · Post #571 » by **DK-All Day** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:20 pm

Avalanche wrote:One thing for sure...

If we still had the Nets pick this season there's a few people who would be losing their minds at their 2-1 record right now

I still remember that panic thread from last year when the Nets started the season well...

Post #572 » by **Duke4life831** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:22 pm

Ainge might have been onto something. Russell, RHJ, Levert, Carroll and Crabbe arent a bad perimeter bunch. Allen has some promise as a defensive big as well, Im not sure the Nets end up with a record in the bottom 5. You got NY, ATL, DAL, SAC, PHI, BKN and IND following them up. It wouldnt shock me if BKN ends up with say the 7th worst record. If that pick ends up at #7 it loses a ton of value. The Lin injury is still a pretty big blow though.

reload141 · Post #573 » by **reload141** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:27 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:Ainge might have been onto something. Russell, RHJ, Levert, Carroll and Crabbe arent a bad perimeter bunch. Allen has some promise as a defensive big as well, Im not sure the Nets end up with a record in the bottom 5. You got NY, ATL, DAL, SAC, PHI, BKN and IND following them up. It wouldnt shock me if BKN ends up with say the 7th worst record. If that pick ends up at #7 it loses a ton of value. The Lin injury is still a pretty big blow though.

Just have to hope the LA doesn't do too well. Coming out with a top 5 pick would be incredible for currency for AD.

Romeiro Celtic · Post #574 » by **Romeiro Celtic** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:29 pm

I really hope BKN goes well this year, so the picks will have low value to the Cavs.

Romeiro Celtic · Post #575 » by **Romeiro Celtic** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:31 pm

I see D'Angelo as a better PG than Lin, so this actually makes the team better, knowing Russell is better offensively and defensively.

Post #576 » by **Duke4life831** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:32 pm

reload141 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Ainge might have been onto something. Russell, RHJ, Levert, Carroll and Crabbe arent a bad perimeter bunch. Allen has some promise as a defensive big as well, Im not sure the Nets end up with a record in the bottom 5. You got NY, ATL, DAL, SAC, PHI, BKN and IND following them up. It wouldnt shock me if BKN ends up with say the 7th worst record. If that pick ends up at #7 it loses a ton of value. The Lin injury is still a pretty big blow though.

Just have to hope the LA doesn't do too well. Coming out with a top 5 pick would be incredible for currency for AD.

Even if you guys cant land AD in a trade, as of right now 2-5 in this draft looks like they have a chance to be game changers and just adds another young piece to go with Brown/Tatum/Kyrie/Hayward. I think LA is right there with BKN on I wouldnt be shocked if they end up anywhere between 3rd-9th worst record.

reload141 · Post #577 » by **reload141** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:34 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
reload141 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Ainge might have been onto something. Russell, RHJ, Levert, Carroll and Crabbe arent a bad perimeter bunch. Allen has some promise as a defensive big as well, Im not sure the Nets end up with a record in the bottom 5. You got NY, ATL, DAL, SAC, PHI, BKN and IND following them up. It wouldnt shock me if BKN ends up with say the 7th worst record. If that pick ends up at #7 it loses a ton of value. The Lin injury is still a pretty big blow though.

Just have to hope the LA doesn't do too well. Coming out with a top 5 pick would be incredible for currency for AD.

Even if you guys cant land AD in a trade, as of right now 2-5 in this draft looks like they have a chance to be game changers and just adds another young piece to go with Brown/Tatum/Kyrie/Hayward. I think LA is right there with BKN on I wouldnt be shocked if they end up anywhere between 3rd-9th worst record.

You are right, what would be the best fit in your mind out of the top 5 for us?

Post #578 » by **Duke4life831** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:45 pm

reload141 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
reload141 wrote:
Just have to hope the LA doesn't do too well. Coming out with a top 5 pick would be incredible for currency for AD.

Even if you guys cant land AD in a trade, as of right now 2-5 in this draft looks like they have a chance to be game changers and just adds another young piece to go with Brown/Tatum/Kyrie/Hayward. I think LA is right there with BKN on I wouldnt be shocked if they end up anywhere between 3rd-9th worst record.

You are right, what would be the best fit in your mind out of the top 5 for us?

It all depends. A big time rebounding beast like Ayton seems like a perfect fit and fills a huge hole for you guys. Bamba who I think can be a more athletic Gobert, also fills a huge hole for you guys with elite rim protection. Ive always thought those 2 were the best fits for you guys, that was assuming Horford is there and playing the 4.

Now with preseason and the start of the season, Brown looks pretty damn good at the 2, Hayward we know is an all star at the 3 (hopefully he can return to that form after the injury) and Tatum even with his skinny body is kind of showing he can man that 4. So with the ultra versatile lineup of Brown/Hayward/Tatum Im kind of think Bagley is the ideal fit (Now of course take this with a grain of salt Duke bias for sure). Bagley is a phenomenal defender, super versatile defensively with his athletic ability and the dude is a really good shot blocker and rebounder.

So I can see Ainge and Stevens thinking of going with the ultimate versatile lineup of Kyrie/Brown/Hayward/Tatum/Bagley. I think it really all depends on how long term they see Horford as. If Horford is long term then Ayton or Bamba are perfect to play with him. If not I think Bagley is the best fit.

reload141 · Post #579 » by **reload141** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:55 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
reload141 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
Even if you guys cant land AD in a trade, as of right now 2-5 in this draft looks like they have a chance to be game changers and just adds another young piece to go with Brown/Tatum/Kyrie/Hayward. I think LA is right there with BKN on I wouldnt be shocked if they end up anywhere between 3rd-9th worst record.

You are right, what would be the best fit in your mind out of the top 5 for us?

It all depends. A big time rebounding beast like Ayton seems like a perfect fit and fills a huge hole for you guys. Bamba who I think can be a more athletic Gobert, also fills a huge hole for you guys with elite rim protection. Ive always thought those 2 were the best fits for you guys, that was assuming Horford is there and playing the 4.

Now with preseason and the start of the season, Brown looks pretty damn good at the 2, Hayward we know is an all star at the 3 (hopefully he can return to that form after the injury) and Tatum even with his skinny body is kind of showing he can man that 4. So with the ultra versatile lineup of Brown/Hayward/Tatum Im kind of think Bagley is the ideal fit (Now of course take this with a grain of salt Duke bias for sure). Bagley is a phenomenal defender, super versatile defensively with his athletic ability and the dude is a really good shot blocker and rebounder.

So I can see Ainge and Stevens thinking of going with the ultimate versatile lineup of Kyrie/Brown/Hayward/Tatum/Bagley. I think it really all depends on how long term they see Horford as. If Horford is long term then Ayton or Bamba are perfect to play with him. If not I think Bagley is the best fit.

We do love our versatility and being able to switch all the time so you're probably right... but we take Horford off this team and we are immediately one of if not, the youngest team in the NBA... really re-positions our window for 2-3 years down the track when GSW's run is trending downwards, but we'd really have to nail that pick this year.

I guess they'd let Horford expire and re-sign him to a Vet sort of deal and maybe come off the bench when this years pick is ready to start...

GoCeltics123 · Post #580 » by **GoCeltics123** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:56 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
reload141 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Ainge might have been onto something. Russell, RHJ, Levert, Carroll and Crabbe arent a bad perimeter bunch. Allen has some promise as a defensive big as well, Im not sure the Nets end up with a record in the bottom 5. You got NY, ATL, DAL, SAC, PHI, BKN and IND following them up. It wouldnt shock me if BKN ends up with say the 7th worst record. If that pick ends up at #7 it loses a ton of value. The Lin injury is still a pretty big blow though.

Just have to hope the LA doesn't do too well. Coming out with a top 5 pick would be incredible for currency for AD.

Even if you guys cant land AD in a trade, as of right now 2-5 in this draft looks like they have a chance to be game changers and just adds another young piece to go with Brown/Tatum/Kyrie/Hayward. I think LA is right there with BKN on I wouldnt be shocked if they end up anywhere between 3rd-9th worst record.

From what it seems like the Suns will be the worst for sure, and then probably the Bulls. After them is anyone's guess