Trades and Transactions thread - To the offseason!

[8516knicks]

Who they re-signed:
Maurice Harkless re-signed to a three-year, $47.2 million contract
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Is it April 1st again, so soon?

[Richard4444]

Chris Paul is a high risk high reward guy. He is such a wild card. He can be a all star guy but he is an injury away of being a cap space nightmare. We are far away of being a contender. There are no reason of a such move.

To make things worst, Chris Paul had a great last season. His price is up. He has already played more times on this shortened season (62) than he had played past 3 seasons (58 to 61). Everybody knows you must not buy a product with a unstable price when the price is up unless you are desperate.

yeah, but i also understand that he could set the team on a good course over those 2 seasons.

i'm not considering chris paul for Ws and Ls in the short term. i'm considering him for setting the on-court product right, regardless of his total number of games played. he adds value from the bench.

not saying it's the right idea, but i get it. this isn't just any vet. you look at what he did with that OKC group people counted out and think he could be great for your kids the same way.

i wouldn't want to part with significant assets to acquire him. but i'd consider it if OKC were looking for cap relief. like you say, we're not contending just yet. CP3 is an ultimate rebuild vet.

We dont know if he would make the same positive impact in a really bad team that cant compete for victories. OKC has a good group of players like Adams, Shai, Galo and Shroeder.

Besides, I doubt if his price would be low. I think that will cost us a FRP for sure. OKC doesnt need cap space (small market team in beginning of a rebuilding process in a bad FA market window).

[WargamesX]

Chris Paul is a high risk high reward guy. He is such a wild card. He can be a all star guy but he is an injury away of being a cap space nightmare. We are far away of being a contender. There are no reason of a such move.

To make things worst, Chris Paul had a great last season. His price is up. He has already played more times on this shortened season (62) than he had played past 3 seasons (58 to 61). Everybody knows you must not buy a product with a unstable price when the price is up unless you are desperate.

yeah, but i also understand that he could set the team on a good course over those 2 seasons.

i'm not considering chris paul for Ws and Ls in the short term. i'm considering him for setting the on-court product right, regardless of his total number of games played. he adds value from the bench.

not saying it's the right idea, but i get it. this isn't just any vet. you look at what he did with that OKC group people counted out and think he could be great for your kids the same way.

i wouldn't want to part with significant assets to acquire him. but i'd consider it if OKC were looking for cap relief. like you say, we're not contending just yet. CP3 is an ultimate rebuild vet.

We dont know if he would make the same positive impact in a really bad team that cant compete for victories. OKC has a good group of players like Adams, Shai, Galo and Shroeder.

Besides, I doubt if his price would be low. I think that will cost us a FRP for sure. OKC doesnt need cap space (small market team in beginning of a rebuilding process in a bad FA market window).

I also don’t think he wants to come here. When the rumor started he was quick to say this was just the teams way of getting the media to stop talking about Spike Lee.

[blanko]

Since perry just extended for a year, i see no major trades happening for the time being.

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[NYG]

Mike Conley (former Leon Rose client) is growing on me lately as well. Big 2020-21 contract, yes, but expires after that.

Of players that played 40+ game in 2019-20, he is one of 26 players to average 2 or more 3-pointer made per game on 35% 3-point percentage or better with a +/- above 1 in a really bad year for him (https://stats.nba.com/players/traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&CF=FG3M*GE*2:FG3_PCT*GE*35:PLUS_MINUS*GE*1:GP*GE*40). He is a pro's pro in terms of work ethic and what he brings to the locker room as a leader and mentor to the young point guard we'll probably draft and would probably come relatively cheap (Knox and Randle?).

[WargamesX]

Mike Conley (former Leon Rose client) is growing on me lately as well. Big 2020-21 contract, yes, but expires after that.

Of players that played 40+ game in 2019-20, he is one of 26 players to average 2 or more 3-pointer made per game on 35% 3-point percentage or better with a +/- above 1 in a really bad year for him (https://stats.nba.com/players/traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&CF=FG3M*GE*2:FG3_PCT*GE*35:PLUS_MINUS*GE*1:GP*GE*40). He is a pro's pro in terms of work ethic and what he brings to the locker room as a leader and mentor to the young point guard we'll probably draft and would probably come relatively cheap (Knox and Randle?).

Honestly looking at Utah’s roster. Portis would be the best thing we could send them. He actually fits what they need in a stretch 4. They also legit might be interested in just dumping Conleys contract to have space in FA. I don’t think Randle fits next to Gobert, unless they wanted to use him as a sixth man.

Also I am going off of Trade Machine so I could be wrong but they have no PF on their roster!!! This trade was meant to happen.

[Richard4444]

What about this trade?

Utah
Conley (1 year - 34,5M)
24 pick (draft 2020).

Knicks
Randle (2 years - 18,9M)
Frank (1 years - 6,1M)
Bullock (1 year - 4,2M) or Portis (1 year 15,8M)
38 pick (draft 2020)

[HEZI]

What about this trade?

Utah
Conley (1 year - 34,5M)
24 pick (draft 2020).

Knicks
Randle (2 years - 18,9M)
Frank (1 years - 6,1M)
Bullock (1 year - 4,2M) or Portis (1 year 15,8M)
38 pick (draft 2020)

Yes that's a no brainer for the Knicks but don't think Jazz are interested. They made a priority last summer of giving Mitchell spacing and playing more modern style of ball after they got exposed by Houston back to back years for lack of shooting. Don't think they have interest in bringing in Randle and having him clog the paint with Gobert. Don't think Utah does it

[WargamesX]

What about this trade?

Utah
Conley (1 year - 34,5M)
24 pick (draft 2020).

Knicks
Randle (2 years - 18,9M)
Frank (1 years - 6,1M)
Bullock (1 year - 4,2M) or Portis (1 year 15,8M)
38 pick (draft 2020)

Yes that's a no brainer for the Knicks but don't think Jazz are interested. They made a priority last summer of giving Mitchell spacing and playing more modern style of ball after they got exposed by Houston back to back years for lack of shooting. Don't think they have interest in bringing in Randle and having him clog the paint with Gobert. Don't think Utah does it

A more realistic fair trade would be:

Utah
Conley (1 year - 34,5M)
24 pick (draft 2020).

Knicks
Portis (1 years - 15 M)
Bullock (1 year - 4,2M)
38 pick (draft 2020)

We get the pick because we're absorbing salary and Portis is a piece that can help them out. They could keep or waive both

[HEZI]

What about this trade?

Utah
Conley (1 year - 34,5M)
24 pick (draft 2020).

Knicks
Randle (2 years - 18,9M)
Frank (1 years - 6,1M)
Bullock (1 year - 4,2M) or Portis (1 year 15,8M)
38 pick (draft 2020)

Yes that's a no brainer for the Knicks but don't think Jazz are interested. They made a priority last summer of giving Mitchell spacing and playing more modern style of ball after they got exposed by Houston back to back years for lack of shooting. Don't think they have interest in bringing in Randle and having him clog the paint with Gobert. Don't think Utah does it

A more realistic fair trade would be:

Utah
Conley (1 year - 34,5M)
24 pick (draft 2020).

Knicks
Portis (1 years - 15 M)
Bullock (1 year - 4,2M)
38 pick (draft 2020)

We get the pick because we're absorbing salary and Portis is a piece that can help them out. They could keep or waive both

They would have to have a free agent target in mind and be confident about landing that FA otherwise it might just be a lateral move. They might prefer Conley for his experience and he was getting back into form towards the end of the season but I would definitely propose that deal to them and see what they say. It's better than the Randle deal for them so they might consider

[spree2kawhi]

Yes that's a no brainer for the Knicks but don't think Jazz are interested. They made a priority last summer of giving Mitchell spacing and playing more modern style of ball after they got exposed by Houston back to back years for lack of shooting. Don't think they have interest in bringing in Randle and having him clog the paint with Gobert. Don't think Utah does it

A more realistic fair trade would be:

Utah
Conley (1 year - 34,5M)
24 pick (draft 2020).

Knicks
Portis (1 years - 15 M)
Bullock (1 year - 4,2M)
38 pick (draft 2020)

We get the pick because we're absorbing salary and Portis is a piece that can help them out. They could keep or waive both

They would have to have a free agent target in mind and be confident about landing that FA otherwise it might just be a lateral move. They might prefer Conley for his experience and he was getting back into form towards the end of the season but I would definitely propose that deal to them and see what they say. It's better than the Randle deal for them so they might consider

Let's be real: The Knicks have nothing to offer contenders anymore. Conley has always been a very good point guard. Now he's still a good one. Why should they make that trade?

[WargamesX]

A more realistic fair trade would be:

Utah
Conley (1 year - 34,5M)
24 pick (draft 2020).

Knicks
Portis (1 years - 15 M)
Bullock (1 year - 4,2M)
38 pick (draft 2020)

We get the pick because we're absorbing salary and Portis is a piece that can help them out. They could keep or waive both

They would have to have a free agent target in mind and be confident about landing that FA otherwise it might just be a lateral move. They might prefer Conley for his experience and he was getting back into form towards the end of the season but I would definitely propose that deal to them and see what they say. It's better than the Randle deal for them so they might consider

Let's be real: The Knicks have nothing to offer contenders anymore. Conley has always been a very good point guard. Now he's still a good one. Why should they make that trade?

It’s all hypothetical..

There are multiple rumors they regret the Conley trade because Conley hasn’t meshed well with Mitchell and Ingles. Knicks can offer them cap space to go after FA if they want or some roleplayers.

https://www.inquisitr.com/6017362/mike-conley-jazz-2020-offseason-trade/

[HarthorneWingo]

I posted this in the CP3 thread but it really belongs here. What about signing (or sign and trade?) Wood and Ingram to the starting front court to go along with Mitch? Ingram may have to be a sign and trade but we have the picks. They can have Randle back if they like, or not. If not, then Julius can come off the bench for a season. If he demands a trade, great!

I'm not really interested in CP3 unless it means getting rid of Randle and getting first round pick(s) back. In no way do we give up picks for that contract dump.

[HEZI]

I posted this in the CP3 thread but it really belongs here. What about signing (or sign and trade?) Wood and Ingram to the starting front court to go along with Mitch? Ingram may have to be a sign and trade but we have the picks. They can have Randle back if they like, or not. If not, then Julius can come off the bench for a season. If he demands a trade, great!

I'm not really interested in CP3 unless it means getting rid of Randle and getting first round pick(s) back. In no way do we give up picks for that contract dump.

Where do I sign? Ingram and Wood would be a dream offseason so it's not happening

[blanko]

I would rather conley than cp3. It will be amare 2.0

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[rajajackal]

I would rather conley than cp3. It will be amare 2.0

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thing is, it won't really hurt us if he gets injured. we don't care about contention while he's here, it would be about his impact on our guys. if anything, his injury history would be a blessing for the point guard we draft to get more burn later in the season. and his contract's up by the time we have any hopes of nabbing a superstar free agent, so it's not like amare's contract, which was hamstringing us at a point where another max player could've put us over the top

[malik959]

Draft Cole/Patrick Williams/Stanley
Trade Portis/DSJ/Knox for Oladipo
Trade Randle/ Portis for Conley?
sign Marcus Morris

Conley/Cole/
Oladipo/Frank/Stanley
Barrett/Brazdeeikis
Morris/Williams
Mitch/Woot

Good mix of youth and old. It's time for us to start battling for a position and attracted other stars. Nobody wants to come to play with a bunch of rookies.

[eagle54]

And you really think Pacers would accept even drunked our trashed players for Dipo ?

[malik959]

And you really think Pacers would accept even drunked our trashed players for Dipo ?

At this point who knows, he's had a bad year after injuries (13ppg) but he's still looking to cash in as an all star. So far it doesn't look like Indiana wants to pony up.

[WargamesX]

And you really think Pacers would accept even drunked our trashed players for Dipo ?

At this point who knows, he's had a bad year after injuries (13ppg) but he's still looking to cash in as an all star. So far it doesn't look like Indiana wants to pony up.

Sounds like a KP situation......