Who will the Knicks Target? Here's a List of REALISTIC Players

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This will be an interesting off-season. Lots of playoff disappointments, few teams with cap space (Knicks have), several teams that never paid luxury tax before that are on the verge of paying (Utah, Milwaukee, Minnesota) and more luxury tax teams that underperformed and have big tax bills coming (New Jersey, Golden State, Portland, Philly).

There will be lots of salary dumping. I think we are in a good spot to take advantage of the situation if we play our cards right. It could be taking on bad contracts for young players or picks (Wiggins plus picks). But it could also be for starter level players who are a bit overpaid (someone like Bogdanovic or CJ for cap relief).

Finally, never discount the possibility to go after a big name like Kawhi. We have the space. All we need to do is convince two guys who want to play together.

[cgmw]

That's just a testament to how good a deal Randle's contract is. This is demonstrating the upside in signing someone with potential at a similar price

even THJ played admirably his last two years in Dallas and probably earned his salary and if it was an overpay it wasn't by very much

I feel like best case scenario it's a Randle situation where he breaks out and we have at least a borderline all-star PG and worst case scenario he is who he is, and we think "ah we probably should have paid him about 25% less' but he's still a solid PG anyway.

also he will help us recruit zion and lamelo

Agree 100%

Jussayin I think Leon/Wes have the balls, ambition, and connections to pull off a bigger move than Steve Mills ever could. Judging from the unexpected underdog runs this offseason, the timing might be right to pull a big trade.

I actually agree but it’s contingent on a real A list star demanding out, none really in free agency any time soon, it’s possible we might still be another year away

Idk about that. There could be some unexpected shake ups that don’t include public demands to opt out. Other teams could decide to blow things up and start again, especially in a loaded draft year.

Also, I question Lonzo’s work ethic a bit just because of the celebutant attention he grew up with, and it would be work ethic that would allow for a major jump at his age.

[Nazrmohamed]

Lonzo vs. Knicks

'20-'21:

- 27+ minutes, TS% .278 (lowest of all starters), 2-9 FGs (22%), 1-5 3P FGs (20%), 3 assists.

yes and? Why should those three games be weighed over the other 68?

He couldn't even beat out Bledsoe for the starting PG position on a team that didn't make the playoffs. Maybe we should sign Bledsoe instead?

Neither Quickley or Rose could even beat out Elfrid Peyton. Careful when you utilize a coaches decisions to create your own narrative. I mean. I got tons of examples.

Who knows what's going on over there. Also people keep referencing the fact hes played off ball. His first team he was with Lebron, Chris Paul would play off the ball with Lebron. Then he couldve played point but the team had a vet in Jrue Holiday. Ball could've easily been relegated to the bench and it would've been understandable because Jrue is a vet but no, they still started him but at SG. After that the precedent had already been set.

I think, and this is even if we don't get him, he just needs one coach who believes in him as a PG....it was literally his drafted position and what he played his whole life. Idk when we got to a point where actually being primarily a passer made you a SECONDARY ball handler. When did we get to a point where guys like Ball, Haliburton...where guys like that who are the BEST passers aren't qualified to be PGs anymore but instead we're talking about guys with the skillset of Allan Iverson being the ideal.

[BKlutch]

So I'm thinking about Buffalo NY as a possible destination. Did you know that it's the only city on the eastern seaboard that has a full oceanic view of the western sunset. The city is completely surrounded by water YET is one of the safest cities in a drastic climate change era. Average home prices are very affordable as well. Great architecture and lots of parks.

Look at the annual snowfall. Look at the average number of feet of snow on the ground throughout the winter. It's far from the coldest city in the US, but it has snowstorms that pick up moisure from the Great Lakes and drop it on Buffalo, Rochester, and surroundings. So if you love snow, cool. If not, it's just brrrrrrrr.

https://www.wgrz.com/article/weather/substantial-snowfall-totals-across-western-new-york/71-662521c1-e7d0-4203-9ec0-e81ba48a9947

[robillionaire]

Agree 100%

Jussayin I think Leon/Wes have the balls, ambition, and connections to pull off a bigger move than Steve Mills ever could. Judging from the unexpected underdog runs this offseason, the timing might be right to pull a big trade.

I actually agree but it’s contingent on a real A list star demanding out, none really in free agency any time soon, it’s possible we might still be another year away

Idk about that. There could be some unexpected shake ups that don’t include public demands to opt out. Other teams could decide to blow things up and start again, especially in a loaded draft year.

Also, I question Lonzo’s work ethic a bit just because of the celebutant attention he grew up with, and it would be work ethic that would allow for a major jump at his age.

I don’t question it, because how else can you explain the shooting improvement over the past couple years? He’s clearly put in the work to improve from a terrible shooter to an above average shooter, that doesn’t happen for someone just taking it easy in the off-season

[GONYK]

yes and? Why should those three games be weighed over the other 68?

He couldn't even beat out Bledsoe for the starting PG position on a team that didn't make the playoffs. Maybe we should sign Bledsoe instead?

Neither Quickley or Rose could even beat out Elfrid Peyton. Careful when you utilize a coaches decisions to create your own narrative. I mean. I got tons of examples.

Who knows what's going on over there. Also people keep referencing the fact hes played off ball. His first team he was with Lebron, Chris Paul would play off the ball with Lebron. Then he couldve played point but the team had a vet in Jrue Holiday. Ball could've easily been relegated to the bench and it would've been understandable because Jrue is a vet but no, they still started him but at SG. After that the precedent had already been set.

I think, and this is even if we don't get him, he just needs one coach who believes in him as a PG....it was literally his drafted position and what he played his whole life. Idk when we got to a point where actually being primarily a passer made you a SECONDARY ball handler. When did we get to a point where guys like Ball, Haliburton...where guys like that who are the BEST passers aren't qualified to be PGs anymore but instead we're talking about guys with the skillset of Allan Iverson being the ideal.

It's because penetration is the most after skillset for a PG, followed by off the dribble 3pt scoring.

Lonzo provides neither, so he's relegated to a role where his offense is created for him and he just has to make secondary decisions as a playmaker.

[sol537]

Maybe Kawhi with the promise of trading for a guy like Lavine or Beal to pair with him could get things done.

A rebuilding package of Obi, IQ, Mitch, #19, #21, Dal 2023, and pick swaps isn't too shabby for a rebuilding team.

Noel (or better)
Randle
Kawhi
Lavine or Beal
Point Guard

The big three of Randle, Kawhi, and Lavine (or Beal) would be quite formidable.

[god shammgod]

kawhi's team made the wcf without him. he aint coming.

[ADeP7]

19 + 21 + Knicks 22 + mavs 23
Quickley + mitch

For beal

Sign a pg bring back rose
FA PG / rose / Luca
Beal / bullock
Barrett
Randle / toppin
FA cente

[KnicksFTW]

People here really want Ben?

Guess watching Randle choke in the playoffs wasn't enough...they want to add another one.

When pundits said we were one piece away, this is not what they meant.

[ENYK]

19 + 21 + Knicks 22 + mavs 23
Quickley + mitch

For beal

Sign a pg bring back rose
FA PG / rose / Luca
Beal / bullock
Barrett
Randle / toppin
FA cente

Why would the Wizards ever agree to that? Beal is a consensus top SG in the league. They'd want a sure fire early lotto pick and/or a young player who is more proven than anyone the Knicks currently have on the roster.

[Fury]

Lonzo
RJ
Derozan
Randle
Simmons

[ADeP7]

19 + 21 + Knicks 22 + mavs 23
Quickley + mitch

For beal

Sign a pg bring back rose
FA PG / rose / Luca
Beal / bullock
Barrett
Randle / toppin
FA cente

Why would the Wizards ever agree to that? Beal is a consensus top SG in the league. They'd want a sure fire early lotto pick and/or a young player who is more proven than anyone the Knicks currently have on the roster.

Not saying they would but that’s where I’m sure it’d start at. I’d guess obi would be included along with 2 more picks.

However he has one year left on his deal. If he demands a specific team like New York and tells others he won’t sign an extension with them then it’s leverage for Knicks and Beal.


So I’d assume if Knicks were to actually pull it off it’d be

19+21 +22 nyk + 23 Mavs + 24 Knicks
Obi Quickley toppin

For Beal

That’s about the package I expect to go out for any “star” Knicks look to bring in with Randle and barrett

[DaGawd]

Yeah.. that Kawhi **** is dead… we might have had a slim chance if the clippers got eliminated in round 1.. Dallas fked us

[HarthorneWingo]

People here really want Ben?

Guess watching Randle choke in the playoffs wasn't enough...they want to add another one.

When pundits said we were one piece away, this is not what they meant.

I won’t allow it. Ew.

[Richard4444]

I think we will get besides Rose:
Vet PG: CP3/Lowry/Conley
Big SF: Oubre/Grant (trading picks for him)

Alternatively, we could trade both 21 picks, Mitch and Knox for Brogdon + Myles Turner.

[prophet_of_rage]

People here really want Ben?

Guess watching Randle choke in the playoffs wasn't enough...they want to add another one.

When pundits said we were one piece away, this is not what they meant.

I won’t allow it. Ew.

Bronson and Turner work for me.

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[sol537]

I think we will get besides Rose:
Vet PG: CP3/Lowry/Conley
Big SF: Oubre/Grant (trading picks for him)

Alternatively, we could trade both 21 picks, Mitch and Knox for Brogdon + Myles Turner.

Brogdon and Turner... sign me up.

Might take Mitch + IQ + Knox + pick to get it done.

Turner, Randle, Bullock, RJ, Brogdown. NY Tough.

[HarthorneWingo]

People here really want Ben?

Guess watching Randle choke in the playoffs wasn't enough...they want to add another one.

When pundits said we were one piece away, this is not what they meant.

I won’t allow it. Ew.

Bronson and Turner work for me.

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Charles Bronson?

[god shammgod]

I think we will get besides Rose:
Vet PG: CP3/Lowry/Conley
Big SF: Oubre/Grant (trading picks for him)

Alternatively, we could trade both 21 picks, Mitch and Knox for Brogdon + Myles Turner.

Brogdon and Turner... sign me up.

Might take Mitch + IQ + Knox + pick to get it done.

Turner, Randle, Bullock, RJ, Brogdown. NY Tough.

you basically have made the indiana pacers with randle playing the role of sabonis and rj playing the role of a broken down oladipo. they're breaking that team up for a reason.