Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap -- 1st page updated on July 1st

[daoneandonly]

Smoking Cuban is reporting Dallas possibly looking at taking Walter Clayton jr. out of Florida with a late first rounder.

6'3 point guard. Don't know this kid but I'm thinking Hardy for a late first round pick.

If anyone's interested, video below.

If Nico's able to get another first rounder, I'm all for it man.

This kid is slated to go 27 to 29 range. That's Brooklyn, Boston or Phoenix. All viable trade partners.

My bet would be Boston sends us a pick for taking Jrue off their payroll.

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They'd be better off targeting Tyrese Proctor in the 2nd round imo

[ACMFFL]

Just another random trade idea, how about George + Drummond + #3 for Klay + PJ + Martin + Gafford

Why for PHI: Follow the rumor, instead of forming big 3, they choose another route for having several useful players that can start. Less pressure to handle Grimes/Oubre Jr./Yabusele upcoming FA problem.

Maxey/Klay/Martin/PJ/Embiid with McCain/Gordon/Gafford/may be Oubre Jr on the bench, is a competitive line up in the east.

Why for DAL: Select VJ at #3 to pair with Cooper in the long run. George contract is bad and a big gamble on the his health, but aren't we already in the gamble on KI/AD health, at least their contracts expires at the same time. Irving/George/Davis core theoretically should be great fit. George can solve part of the ball handling problem before Irving returns.

Irving/George/Cooper/Davis/Lively, with VJ/Max/Naji/Drummond on the bench, give a better chance to win it all, while building for future.

Imho it takes the unpr 2029 LAL 1st too and Marshall instead of Caleb but I love your idea, I was playing around a similar trade looking for a feasible way to acquire a top5 pick (for Tre tho) without moving AD, cause I don't see mr. Harrison trading him at all, and Philly looks like a realistic trade partner.

[daoneandonly]

Just another random trade idea, how about George + Drummond + #3 for Klay + PJ + Martin + Gafford

Why for PHI: Follow the rumor, instead of forming big 3, they choose another route for having several useful players that can start. Less pressure to handle Grimes/Oubre Jr./Yabusele upcoming FA problem.

Maxey/Klay/Martin/PJ/Embiid with McCain/Gordon/Gafford/may be Oubre Jr on the bench, is a competitive line up in the east.

Why for DAL: Select VJ at #3 to pair with Cooper in the long run. George contract is bad and a big gamble on the his health, but aren't we already in the gamble on KI/AD health, at least their contracts expires at the same time. Irving/George/Davis core theoretically should be great fit. George can solve part of the ball handling problem before Irving returns.

Irving/George/Cooper/Davis/Lively, with VJ/Max/Naji/Drummond on the bench, give a better chance to win it all, while building for future.

Imho it takes the unpr 2029 LAL 1st too and Marshall instead of Caleb but I love your idea, I was playing around a similar trade looking for a realistic way to acquire a top5 pick (for Tre tho) without moving AD cause I don't see mr. Harrison trading him at all.

For AD sure, but I wouldn't give up this much needed depth and then have 3 injury prone max guys on the roster.

[ACMFFL]

Just another random trade idea, how about George + Drummond + #3 for Klay + PJ + Martin + Gafford

Why for PHI: Follow the rumor, instead of forming big 3, they choose another route for having several useful players that can start. Less pressure to handle Grimes/Oubre Jr./Yabusele upcoming FA problem.

Maxey/Klay/Martin/PJ/Embiid with McCain/Gordon/Gafford/may be Oubre Jr on the bench, is a competitive line up in the east.

Why for DAL: Select VJ at #3 to pair with Cooper in the long run. George contract is bad and a big gamble on the his health, but aren't we already in the gamble on KI/AD health, at least their contracts expires at the same time. Irving/George/Davis core theoretically should be great fit. George can solve part of the ball handling problem before Irving returns.

Irving/George/Cooper/Davis/Lively, with VJ/Max/Naji/Drummond on the bench, give a better chance to win it all, while building for future.

Imho it takes the unpr 2029 LAL 1st too and Marshall instead of Caleb but I love your idea, I was playing around a similar trade looking for a realistic way to acquire a top5 pick (for Tre tho) without moving AD cause I don't see mr. Harrison trading him at all.

For AD sure, but I wouldn't give up this much needed depth and then have 3 injury prone max guys on the roster.

Moving AD off the book at his peak value should be our priority but unfortunately that's not mr. Harrison vision. And I agree that 3 old fragile max players on the roster is a huge risk but honestly I'd do it for #3. I totally get why you won't tho.

[daoneandonly]

Imho it takes the unpr 2029 LAL 1st too and Marshall instead of Caleb but I love your idea, I was playing around a similar trade looking for a realistic way to acquire a top5 pick (for Tre tho) without moving AD cause I don't see mr. Harrison trading him at all.

For AD sure, but I wouldn't give up this much needed depth and then have 3 injury prone max guys on the roster.

Moving AD off the book at his peak value should be our priority but unfortunately that's not mr. Harrison vision. And I agree that 3 old fragile max players on the roster is a huge risk but honestly I'd do it for #3. I totally get why you won't tho.

Yea just too risky for me, and part of it is I really like PJ. Probably my favorite player in the league now. Does everything you ask and will stand up and protect his teammates. I want him starting with Flagg for years to come.

But agreed, AD and Nico are too tight for it to he reality. Reason #378 why Harrison should be fired

[Archx]

Reason #378 why Harrison should be fired

On this day, one year ago, Luka Doncic drops a 32 point, 10 rebound, and 13 assist triple double against Minnesota while hitting the game winning step-back 3 over Rudy Gobert to take a 2-0 series lead in the WCF.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/1kua6c1/on_this_day_one_year_ago_luka_doncic_drops_a_32/

[Michaellam1987]

Just another random trade idea, how about George + Drummond + #3 for Klay + PJ + Martin + Gafford

Why for PHI: Follow the rumor, instead of forming big 3, they choose another route for having several useful players that can start. Less pressure to handle Grimes/Oubre Jr./Yabusele upcoming FA problem.

Maxey/Klay/Martin/PJ/Embiid with McCain/Gordon/Gafford/may be Oubre Jr on the bench, is a competitive line up in the east.

Why for DAL: Select VJ at #3 to pair with Cooper in the long run. George contract is bad and a big gamble on the his health, but aren't we already in the gamble on KI/AD health, at least their contracts expires at the same time. Irving/George/Davis core theoretically should be great fit. George can solve part of the ball handling problem before Irving returns.

Irving/George/Cooper/Davis/Lively, with VJ/Max/Naji/Drummond on the bench, give a better chance to win it all, while building for future.

Imho it takes the unpr 2029 LAL 1st too and Marshall instead of Caleb but I love your idea, I was playing around a similar trade looking for a feasible way to acquire a top5 pick (for Tre tho) without moving AD, cause I don't see mr. Harrison trading him at all, and Philly looks like a realistic trade partner.

I may still do it for Marshall instead of Martin, but I won’t give up the LAL pick.

[joesha1698]

Smoking Cuban is reporting Dallas possibly looking at taking Walter Clayton jr. out of Florida with a late first rounder.

6'3 point guard. Don't know this kid but I'm thinking Hardy for a late first round pick.

If anyone's interested, video below.

If Nico's able to get another first rounder, I'm all for it man.

This kid is slated to go 27 to 29 range. That's Brooklyn, Boston or Phoenix. All viable trade partners.

My bet would be Boston sends us a pick for taking Jrue off their payroll.

Watch on YouTube

I watched his highlights and he's a pretty good scorer. It just seems like overkill at the combo guard position unless we're trading Martin and letting Brandon Williams go....

[joesha1698]

Just another random trade idea, how about George + Drummond + #3 for Klay + PJ + Martin + Gafford

Why for PHI: Follow the rumor, instead of forming big 3, they choose another route for having several useful players that can start. Less pressure to handle Grimes/Oubre Jr./Yabusele upcoming FA problem.

Maxey/Klay/Martin/PJ/Embiid with McCain/Gordon/Gafford/may be Oubre Jr on the bench, is a competitive line up in the east.

Why for DAL: Select VJ at #3 to pair with Cooper in the long run. George contract is bad and a big gamble on the his health, but aren't we already in the gamble on KI/AD health, at least their contracts expires at the same time. Irving/George/Davis core theoretically should be great fit. George can solve part of the ball handling problem before Irving returns.

Irving/George/Cooper/Davis/Lively, with VJ/Max/Naji/Drummond on the bench, give a better chance to win it all, while building for future.

I do not think they will give up the #3 pick to get off George. If they were to give up the #3 pick, it would have to be considered. Assuming they would give us George for those 4, I wouldn't do it. He's just too old at 35. We need to get younger around our core as we develop Flagg.

[Mr B]

Next year, you have both KD and Kyrie expire.

If Kyrie's re-signing to a new deal, it won't just be for one year Darren.

I expect Kyrie will get a 3 year deal. Would he take $35M per on a 3 year deal instead of opting in to his final year at $43M? That’s a slight decrease from what he was making. That would get them $8M closer to being below the 1st apron.

When AD resigns I would also expect his deal to coincide with Kyrie’s.

[Mr B]

Just another random trade idea, how about George + Drummond + #3 for Klay + PJ + Martin + Gafford

Why for PHI: Follow the rumor, instead of forming big 3, they choose another route for having several useful players that can start. Less pressure to handle Grimes/Oubre Jr./Yabusele upcoming FA problem.

Maxey/Klay/Martin/PJ/Embiid with McCain/Gordon/Gafford/may be Oubre Jr on the bench, is a competitive line up in the east.

Why for DAL: Select VJ at #3 to pair with Cooper in the long run. George contract is bad and a big gamble on the his health, but aren't we already in the gamble on KI/AD health, at least their contracts expires at the same time. Irving/George/Davis core theoretically should be great fit. George can solve part of the ball handling problem before Irving returns.

Irving/George/Cooper/Davis/Lively, with VJ/Max/Naji/Drummond on the bench, give a better chance to win it all, while building for future.

No interest in Fears? If the Mavs had #3 I would look to trade down one or two spots and draft Jeremiah Fears (assuming Harper was drafted at #2).

[Archx]

They already had Grimes now they'll have to get creative. Yeah, i sure trust Nico to do something good

Man.. Mavs had such a deep team before Nico happened, holy **** what kind of a disaster was that trade deadline?!?! They had all the right pieces already in place.

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[daoneandonly]

They already had Grimes now they'll have to get creative. Yeah, i sure trust Nico to do something good

Man.. Mavs had such a deep team before Nico happened, holy **** what kind of a disaster was that trade deadline?!?! They had all the right pieces already in place.

Read on Twitter

Nico is a bone head and the owners really need to dump him. Then trade AD. I say trade AD and Hardy to Memphis for Bane, Konchar, Zack Edy, and a 2027 FRP. Then trade Edy for a solid PG and field a young team that competes and doesn't wear club clothes more than his work basketball uniform like AD and Caleb

[Astaluego]

I think the Grizzlies are too financially conscious to take a chance on AD.
Most of their moves are to save money.
I see the Kings as the prototype team to make a move for AD.
I guess the value would have to come from future picks with Lavine as salary + one of Carter/Ellis?
I doubt Detroit is at this point of going after a star (or maybe not), but Harris (to a 3rd team) + Stewart + Ivey and 2 FRPs works for me.

[Darren]

The Mavs' salary cap is over 3rd apron, right? Is it extremely unlikely to pull out a trade? If it's the case, is Ben Simmons besides Mavs free agent the most likely scenario?

Let's say Lebron opts in and AD-Flagg frontcourt doesn't work out. A Lebron-AD swap makes sense. On one hand, the Mavs contends.the On the other hand, it brings a sizable expiring contract for the Mavs to operate in way different ways next offseasons. It's better than throwing Gafford and PJ in trades.

People talks about complete rebuilding. But wait, which team will trade significant assets for AD or Kyrie at this point? Under the hard cap, teams are better off with 2 established stars, 2 elite rookies and a couple of above average role players. That's the way Boston or OKC / IND to win a title. When the rookie deals expired, the OKC team is not nearly the same. And the NBA won't allow a dynasty to take away revenue. If you're eligible to win anything, go for it whole-heartedly.

Dallas, as a city, is never appealing to FA. If you can't get multiple lottery picks for AD or Kyrie, you're better off sticking with the team. Who knows what happened in 5 years? Maybe Flagg just leaves without significant help. Until now, you only gets Lively fitting the timeline. In case you trade both all-stars, you have to get back 5 starter-worthy players who fits the timeline.

People mentioned AD to SAS for 2nd pick. But let's be real, SAS will land Giannis instead of AD. If you're able to find takers for a couple of MLE contracts for a refreshing stars on expiring terms, you can try. For example, Dame may come really cheap if Giannis is moved. That's the way Clippers betting on Harden for contending. If it works, it works. If you can't, you only part with players you can't keep or players you don't want to keep.

[Mavrelous]

The Mavs' salary cap is over 3rd apron, right? Is it extremely unlikely to pull out a trade? If it's the case, is Ben Simmons besides Mavs free agent the most likely scenario?

There are 2 aprons, Mavs are above the highest one, but only by tiny amount, given the penalty, likely future salary commitment for the Mavs and the big amount of tradable contracts that give great felxibility, it would be malpractice to not drop below it.
This isn't a guarantee, it was malpractice not to drop below tax this year and reset repeater tax, so I wouldn't put it past Nico.

[Darren]

Just another random trade idea, how about George + Drummond + #3 for Klay + PJ + Martin + Gafford

Why for PHI: Follow the rumor, instead of forming big 3, they choose another route for having several useful players that can start. Less pressure to handle Grimes/Oubre Jr./Yabusele upcoming FA problem.

Maxey/Klay/Martin/PJ/Embiid with McCain/Gordon/Gafford/may be Oubre Jr on the bench, is a competitive line up in the east.

Why for DAL: Select VJ at #3 to pair with Cooper in the long run. George contract is bad and a big gamble on the his health, but aren't we already in the gamble on KI/AD health, at least their contracts expires at the same time. Irving/George/Davis core theoretically should be great fit. George can solve part of the ball handling problem before Irving returns.

Irving/George/Cooper/Davis/Lively, with VJ/Max/Naji/Drummond on the bench, give a better chance to win it all, while building for future.

Imho it takes the unpr 2029 LAL 1st too and Marshall instead of Caleb but I love your idea, I was playing around a similar trade looking for a feasible way to acquire a top5 pick (for Tre tho) without moving AD, cause I don't see mr. Harrison trading him at all, and Philly looks like a realistic trade partner.

I may still do it for Marshall instead of Martin, but I won’t give up the LAL pick.

The whole idea sounds good. But I'd easily pick Ace Bailey for as a big SG.

[joesha1698]

They already had Grimes now they'll have to get creative. Yeah, i sure trust Nico to do something good

Man.. Mavs had such a deep team before Nico happened, holy **** what kind of a disaster was that trade deadline?!?! They had all the right pieces already in place.

Read on Twitter

In fairness to Nico, didn't they offer Grimes a deal? He turned it down. He was trying to get his big pay day. I do not blame him. I think it was probably a good move to get off him while you could still retain some value for him. Aside from the Luka move, (which i would say most people dont believe was his decision) what move has Nico made that you really have an issue with?

[joesha1698]

They already had Grimes now they'll have to get creative. Yeah, i sure trust Nico to do something good

Man.. Mavs had such a deep team before Nico happened, holy **** what kind of a disaster was that trade deadline?!?! They had all the right pieces already in place.

Read on Twitter

Nico is a bone head and the owners really need to dump him. Then trade AD. I say trade AD and Hardy to Memphis for Bane, Konchar, Zack Edy, and a 2027 FRP. Then trade Edy for a solid PG and field a young team that competes and doesn't wear club clothes more than his work basketball uniform like AD and Caleb

Nico is not a bone head. He most likely had a directive from ownership to trade Luka for either Giannis or AD. The Bucks owner was not coming off Giannis, so it probably left LA as the only choice, which was nba/ownership plan to begin with. The #1 draft pick was also apart of the deal. If ownership wants to trade AD (they will fire Nico first) because they need a scapegoat to justify trading AD after acquiring him.

Futhermore, there is really no point of trading AD unless you get a Giannis level big man/anchor player back. Therefore, they should most likely hold on to him because he still gives you the best chance in the playoffs if you can keep him healthy. The big issue I have with AD is extending him. Does he really deserve an extension with his injury history? Probably not.

[arkuo]

Nico is not a bonehead. The deal was in collusion to help NBA's most popular team. I don't think it's pure coincidence that Dallas got the 1st pick. It is my belief that it was part of the deal to send Luka to LA.

New Orleans sent AD to LA before then they also got Zion in return. It's not a coincidence.