2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10

[Tony15]

well the development part was pretty retar-ded because eveyoone played really bad with the exception of davion.hell even jaime regressed greatly. pelle had his good moments but lets get real he sucked too.besides if the heat were in to real player development they would have used the guys that they sent to G/d leagues for developments

Jimmy needed to go last offseason. The Heat had no intention of giving him a contract extension with all the injuries he had. His whole contract/trade issue was a major distraction on the team that hurt any sort of cohesion that could have been developed in a training camp without him on the team. It was a failure on Heat management to not have the foresight to move on from the Butler-era after he missed the previous post-season from injury. Especially given the fact they knew Butler would go ape-s#it if he did not get an extension since he has done so previously.

What is going on with Heat management? At this point, they need to be shaken up. There’s a lot of issues to address this offseason and I think they are just going to continue to treadmill with a 8-10 seed team going into next season. Not acceptable.

Mentioned it in the G4 thread....I really think it's arrogance. Probably should've seen it coming when they started putting HEAT "culture" on the damn jerseys....thinking they could win chips with as little talent as possible & are above the idea of tanking or stockpiling draft picks.

I'm partly guilty too, because i loathe tanking, but I'm just a fan that wants his team to win all the time.

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[Hallstar]

well the development part was pretty retar-ded because eveyoone played really bad with the exception of davion.hell even jaime regressed greatly. pelle had his good moments but lets get real he sucked too.besides if the heat were in to real player development they would have used the guys that they sent to G/d leagues for developments

Jimmy needed to go last offseason. The Heat had no intention of giving him a contract extension with all the injuries he had. His whole contract/trade issue was a major distraction on the team that hurt any sort of cohesion that could have been developed in a training camp without him on the team. It was a failure on Heat management to not have the foresight to move on from the Butler-era after he missed the previous post-season from injury. Especially given the fact they knew Butler would go ape-s#it if he did not get an extension since he has done so previously.

What is going on with Heat management? At this point, they need to be shaken up. There’s a lot of issues to address this offseason and I think they are just going to continue to treadmill with a 8-10 seed team going into next season. Not acceptable.

Mentioned it in the G4 thread....I really think it's arrogance. Probably should've seen it coming when they started putting HEAT "culture" on the damn jerseys....thinking they could win chips with as little talent as possible & are above the idea of tanking or stockpiling draft picks.

I'm partly guilty too, because i loathe tanking, but I'm just a fan that wants his team to win all the time.

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I will always be a fan of the strategic tank. The Duncan/ Wemby tank. Pick a year and Bam and Herro just happen to need random knee rehab for 6 months.

[Hoops3355]

It was pretty clear the Pre CBA plan was to roll into 2026 with Cap space for days and bring in some piece then extend Jimmy if he was playing. Once they saw the changes they should have immediately pivoted to moving on from Jimmy the moment they decided to not offer an extension which ended up with us making a TERRIBLE trade for Terry (we'll see what they can salvage this summer). That trade really just cranked any reset til 2028.

No idea what they're gonna do this off-season, I wouldn't be surprised if someone shakes loose due to the CBA squeeze. I'm okay with running Herro and Bam back as your 2-3rd best players if we can add a SF who can just score. Wiggs for better or worse has never been that guy. 20/20 hindsight but damn some awful decisions we're riding with.

[HeatFanLifer]

20/20 hindsight but damn some awful decisions we're riding with.

Maybe 20/20 hindsight in terms of whether a fan likes the bad deals that have accumulated over the years such as re-signinf D-Rob, letting Strus walk for nothing, trading for Rozier, and trading for Wiggins. However fans aren’t making the decisions, they are just reacting to a decision that has already been made.

At the end of the day, Heat management is accountable for making decisions that while shown to be awful in hindsight, should have also been recognized as awful by Heat management before a deal was ever made. If management lacks that foresight, then it needs to be replaced.

[SoFlaKingReal]

20/20 hindsight but damn some awful decisions we're riding with.

Maybe 20/20 hindsight in terms of whether a fan likes the bad deals that have accumulated over the years such as re-signinf D-Rob, letting Strus walk for nothing, trading for Rozier, and trading for Wiggins. However fans aren’t making the decisions, they are just reacting to a decision that has already been made.

At the end of the day, Heat management is accountable for making decisions that while shown to be awful in hindsight, should have also been recognized as awful by Heat management before a deal was ever made. If management lacks that foresight, then it needs to be replaced.

The decision-makers in this front office flat out suck. There is no point sugar coating it anymore. They have built a team that is A) without a true star player, B) missing two future first round picks, and C) in the luxury tax.

The Jimmy fiasco and this playoff series against the Cavs have finally shined a light on the true ineptitude of this organization.

Riley and Co. have lost their fastball. Something that doesn't miraculously return.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

20/20 hindsight but damn some awful decisions we're riding with.

Maybe 20/20 hindsight in terms of whether a fan likes the bad deals that have accumulated over the years such as re-signinf D-Rob, letting Strus walk for nothing, trading for Rozier, and trading for Wiggins. However fans aren’t making the decisions, they are just reacting to a decision that has already been made.

At the end of the day, Heat management is accountable for making decisions that while shown to be awful in hindsight, should have also been recognized as awful by Heat management before a deal was ever made. If management lacks that foresight, then it needs to be replaced.

The decision-makers in this front office flat out suck. There is no point sugar coating it anymore. They have built a team that is A) without a true star player, B) missing two future first round picks, and C) in the luxury tax.

The Jimmy fiasco and this playoff series against the Cavs have finally shined a light on the true ineptitude of this organization.

Riley and Co. have lost their fastball. Something that doesn't miraculously return.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Shouldn’t have intervened in the Dame saga, karmas a bitch. He was always meant to be a Heatle

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Get it done MWP, don’t switch sides in 2 weeks lol!!

Been holding firm on getting KD cause I know we have what it takes to get it done. Giannis is a complete pipe dream joke but Durant is right there for us. We have the expiring contracts the Suns want and just enough expendable young pieces to get this over the hump.

Don’t get me started about the 3rd guy that was around them majority of the time as well

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[greg4012]

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Shouldn’t have intervened in the Dame saga, karmas a bitch. He was always meant to be a Heatle

Need karma to hit boston next

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Shouldn’t have intervened in the Dame saga, karmas a bitch. He was always meant to be a Heatle

Need karma to hit boston next

I’m glad you brought them up and I’m about to rant so forgive me, they’ve been on my mind with the recent convos going on here. First of all, fuxk Boston forever and always, but they’re a good example of why you should always try to remain competitive like we’ve been discussing on here the last 2 days. For years they were right there but just couldn’t get over the hump. They kept making moves they thought might finally get them the championship or at least stay at the level they had always been on.

Then last year every domino falls perfectly for them. Round 1, no Jimmy. Round 2, Mitchell misses 2-3 games. ECF, Haliburton misses 3 games. Finals, Luka is playing on half a leg and a bad back that had been documented basically his entire playoff run and worsened the entire time. They remained competitive and got significant injury help on their way to the championship. If Jokic suffers a high ankle sprain at the end of game 2 against us in the finals we’re champions, Hart doesn’t injure Jimmy maybe we still are. We saw it go against us when Dragic and Bam got injured in the 2020 finals. You just never know what might happen so if you can be in the top 4 or so teams in your conference on any given year it’s probably best to do so, you just may get a free ride to the championship like Boston did after sticking with it for several years.

[HeatFanLifer]

They have built a team that is A) without a true star player, B) missing two future first round picks, and C) in the luxury tax.

Damn that’s a really bad hole and they just kept digging. I understand the logic of being competitive cuz you never know, but that’s if your team still has some years left. Yimmy was called playoff Jimmy cuz he took off so many games in the regular season and then playoff Jimmy was a no show last year. The sun was clearly set after that, could have stopped the bleeding but they doubled down.

[SoFlaKingReal]

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Shouldn’t have intervened in the Dame saga, karmas a bitch. He was always meant to be a Heatle

Yep, Giannis the snake couldn't help himself.

[Lennyzinho]

Take a nap lil buddy, you woke up grumpy today.

I’ve got plenty, thanks. What’s the backup plan if the KD sweepstakes fall through?

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Dragics got us.

That really is plan B.

If we don't land Giannis (.001%) or Durant (25%), think Heat are gonna make dudes like wiggins rozier Duncan slomo available or try to be the extra team to help match salaries and come away with anything of value if possible. And just let all the players expire to have a ton of flexibility for 2026. And they made dang sure we'd have our unprotected pick for this next draft, so might as well do a soft tank and just play Pelle ware davion JJJ jovic a ton to develop them and boost trade value.

Then you get hopefully a top pick and have a ton of cap and land a star and start competing. Not perfect and has its risks and wasting a year of Bam and herro but I think Herro is gone in any trade for luka or giannis or any player of that ilk that becomes available.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Lakers fans want to trade for Giannis, unwilling to trade both Reaves AND Rui though……..at least we’re not that delusional

[batterybro42]

I will say this I am willing to forgo an entire Miami Heat Season, trade Bam and Herro for a 25% chance of drafting Aj Dybantsa

I think he is the best HS prospect I have seen since LeBron

[greg4012]

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Shouldn’t have intervened in the Dame saga, karmas a bitch. He was always meant to be a Heatle

Need karma to hit boston next

I’m glad you brought them up and I’m about to rant so forgive me, they’ve been on my mind with the recent convos going on here. First of all, fuxk Boston forever and always, but they’re a good example of why you should always try to remain competitive like we’ve been discussing on here the last 2 days. For years they were right there but just couldn’t get over the hump. They kept making moves they thought might finally get them the championship or at least stay at the level they had always been on.

Then last year every domino falls perfectly for them. Round 1, no Jimmy. Round 2, Mitchell misses 2-3 games. ECF, Haliburton misses 3 games. Finals, Luka is playing on half a leg and a bad back that had been documented basically his entire playoff run and worsened the entire time. They remained competitive and got significant injury help on their way to the championship. If Jokic suffers a high ankle sprain at the end of game 2 against us in the finals we’re champions, Hart doesn’t injure Jimmy maybe we still are. We saw it go against us when Dragic and Bam got injured in the 2020 finals. You just never know what might happen so if you can be in the top 4 or so teams in your conference on any given year it’s probably best to do so, you just may get a free ride to the championship like Boston did after sticking with it for several years.

I feel ya. Miami has a ways to go to get back to being a top 4 team in the conference but if there are paths they should be explored.

[greg4012]

I will say this I am willing to forgo an entire Miami Heat Season, trade Bam and Herro for a 25% chance of drafting Aj Dybantsa

I think he is the best HS prospect I have seen since LeBron

With modern NBA rules, the 3 worst teams in the NBA each have a 14% chance at the #1 pick and a ~50% chance at a top 4 pick

[Flash4thewin]

Lakers fans want to trade for Giannis, unwilling to trade both Reaves AND Rui though……..at least we’re not that delusional

To be fair after seeing what their front office did in getting Luka, anything is possible if your a Laker

[greg4012]

Not much victory lapping Jimmy after last night's game. The concern with aging stars is always the reduction in frequency with which they can summon what makes them special. I think it's reasonable to expect that rate of reduction to ramp up over the next 2 seasons, making the 2027 season pretty tough sledding (which was always the point of conflict with the Jimmy talks).

I'm still rooting for GS to succeed and expect them to make it past Houston, at minimum.

[carnageta]

Lakers fans want to trade for Giannis, unwilling to trade both Reaves AND Rui though……..at least we’re not that delusional

Bro Lakers fans thought JJ Redick was the 2nd coming of Greg Popovich like 2 weeks ago