Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV, Mods Close)

[ADRajX]

Man, if we can somehow swindle an Orl-GS-Milwaukee trade deal ... GS gets Bogut, and we get Ellis

[Def Swami]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=85wkxd4
Magic Receive: Monta Ellis and Stephen Jackson
Bucks Receive: Hedo Turkoglu, Michael Beasley, and Kwame Brown
Warriors Receive: Andrew Bogut and Glen Davis
Wolves Receive: JJ Redick

Edit: Don't even need Minny in this deal. Bucks could just get JJ or J-Rich straight up.

Magic Receive: Monta and Capt Jack
Bucks Receive: Turk, JJ, and Kwame
Warriors Receive: Bogut and Big Baby

[tiderulz]

Looks like ORL contacted OKC and wanted Harden + Ibaka (and I'm sure some filler but it doesn't say) for Howard. OKC of course said no.

Just thought you guys should know.

Magic have talked to OKC but Thunder balks at giving up Ibaka and Harden to rent Dwight

https://twitter.com/#!/MagicInsider/sta ... 8185365506

didnt i hear right that Schmitz also said Dwight got a $400mil contract? what does he know.

And OKC isnt going to be able to pay Harden+Ibaka after next year, with the contracts they already have with Perkins, Westbrook and Durant.

[TheDarkKnight]

you guys are dreaming is you think OKC is gonna give up Ibaka and Harden just for a rental.

[blue and white]

The Bucks are now willing to listen to trade offers they receive from rival teams in regards to Andrew Bogut, according to sources.

Sources say the Bucks will only entertain trades from teams willing to take back Stephen Jackson.

Read more: http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... ntouchable

This is huge news for us considering jackson wants to be here and the warriors are looking for a center. I really hope Otis or Alex jumps on this....the question is what does Milwaukee want?

Exactly. as a team they are terrible and need to blow it up cause they have holes everywhere except maybe pg. so im not sure what we could really offer.
nelson isnt worth anything to them with jennings
jj redick could be nice for them
sf doubt they want hedo lol
pf ryan is great but they have a similar type player in ilyasova already
and we have no centers to offer and i doubt they want baby

[bonanz]

please read. harden and ibaka will be gone soon anyways. and there is no way okc will be able to continue to replace them with equally talented guys on rookie contracts. they made their decisions, its durant and westbrook and for big man they committed to perkins and have collins tied up for years at cheap. harden will be gone. ibaka too.

[Swiftraven]

Evan Dunlap ‏ @BQRMagic
Hollinger suggests Magic/Wolves/Bucks deal wherein ORL gets Brockman, Barea, Ersan for JJ, Orton, Harper, Fran rights.

Evan Dunlap ‏ @BQRMagic
That's a deal ORL would have to strongly consider, even if it means QRich is the backup SG.

I am not familiar enough with those guys to have any kind of informed decision on it.

[Mrrags009]

i like that trdade idea

[bonanz]

hollinger "suggests"??

does that mean stupid trade idea, or that is a rumor according to "sauce"

[MoMM]

I like getting Ersan, Barea and Brockman for basically JJ.

[fallacy]

For people saying OKC should trade Harden/Ibaka because they won't be able to keep them, why do you think that? OKC has plenty of room under the luxury to sign one easily. The second one will probably put OKC over the luxury by ~5mil.

If that is an issue to ownership, we just amnesty Perkins and keep them both. Unless one of the players specifically says they want out of OKC (ala Joe Johnson) they'll both stay.

[BelgianMagic]

I don't understand why we're talking about a rental ..

Why wouldn't Dwight wanna extend in OKC?

Westbrook/Durant/Howard is more balanced, younger & IMO more likely to win not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4 but multiple championships ..

Best scorer in the game + he's clutch (Hi LeBron, how ya doin), top-tier PG Westbrook & a great coach

No, Dwight wants to go play with Old Man Kobe or Deron Williams + a gutted NJ roster

[Swiftraven]

We trade a JJ for a "little JJ" and others.
I don't know Ersan and Brockman at all...you know, due to them being in Minnesota...

[rcklsscognition]

Evan Dunlap ‏ @BQRMagic
Hollinger suggests Magic/Wolves/Bucks deal wherein ORL gets Brockman, Barea, Ersan for JJ, Orton, Harper, Fran rights.

Evan Dunlap ‏ @BQRMagic
That's a deal ORL would have to strongly consider, even if it means QRich is the backup SG.

I am not familiar enough with those guys to have any kind of informed decision on it.

We have Wafer still

[MoMM]

please read. harden and ibaka will be gone soon anyways. and there is no way okc will be able to continue to replace them with equally talented guys on rookie contracts. they made their decisions, its durant and westbrook and for big man they committed to perkins and have collins tied up for years at cheap. harden will be gone. ibaka too.

They are not that bad in terms of sallary too, they will have something to 50mi a year committed, if they re-sign Ibaka and Harden for 18mi a year (both), they will spend 68mi a year, we spend much more in a worse team...

[ADRajX]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=7hmkwtj

I tried my best with this one... the problem is I don't really know what Milwaukee wants.

But this was the best I could conjure up... maybe give Milwaukee a draft pick as well?

Line-up/Rotations:
PG- Ellis*/Ish/Duhon
SG- Redick/Wafer/Ellis*/Liggins*
SF- Hedo/Liggins*/Q-Rich/Clark*
PF- Anderson/Harper/Clark*
C - Howard/Biedrins/Clark*

*= can play multiple positions

We get Ellis, Dwight is happy

[Def Swami]

I like getting Ersan, Barea and Brockman for basically JJ.

I agree. Great assets to have and definitely upgrades our bench tremendously. Ersan really surprises me though. We have Ryan and Big Baby. If that would go down, someone else would be moved.

[NW]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=85wkxd4
Magic Receive: Monta Ellis and Stephen Jackson
Bucks Receive: Hedo Turkoglu, Michael Beasley, and Kwame Brown
Warriors Receive: Andrew Bogut and Glen Davis
Wolves Receive: JJ Redick

Edit: Don't even need Minny in this deal. Bucks could just get JJ or J-Rich straight up.

Magic Receive: Monta and Capt Jack
Bucks Receive: Turk, JJ, and Kwame
Warriors Receive: Bogut and Big Baby

Comes down to if GS and Orl can team up to make it the Bucks while. GS throws in Udoh, Orlando their 2013 1st. Not sure if that's enough. Depends on the other offers they get

[MoMM]

I don't understand why we're talking about a rental ..

Why wouldn't Dwight wanna extend in OKC?

Westbrook/Durant/Howard is more balanced, younger & IMO more likely to win not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4 but multiple championships ..

Best scorer in the game + he's clutch (Hi LeBron, how ya doin), top-tier PG Westbrook & a great coach

No, Dwight wants to go play with Old Man Kobe or Deron Williams + a gutted NJ roster

He wouldnt be the franchise player there and wouldnt get top tier money from endorsements, thats why it would be a rental.

[bonanz]

i do too, basically when you sub ryan out, you get the same player behind him in ersan. baby would have to be on the move also no? for another shooting guard?

duhons minutes are now gone with barea except for defenisve spot minutes orton/harper/fran don't matter except harper being furture stretch 4 but i thinky ersan fills that role and is already established.

only concern about this deal is the reports of ersan wanting to jet back to wherever he's from.