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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#581 » by dagger » Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:17 am

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hell_razor wrote:At the end of the day this was a private conversation, and this guy still pays his players and takes care of them, etc. You can't force someone to start thinking the same way as you do. As you can see in many pictures and videos he still looks happy having conversations with black players, it's just deep inside him he doesn't feel comfortable chilling with black people.

In no way am I supporting his thinking, but overblown story


Sorry, he's done as an NBA owner and his name is ruined. He will have an extra billion dollars, but he won't get to ogle 'beautiful black bodies' anymore.

He pays his players with the money the players generate by entertaining us. He is a middle man providing little to no value (and in Sterling's case, destroying value) who gets to skim off the top and and sit court side, hoping some of Chris Paul's shine will rub off on him.


I think he's done except for two things: 1) This is a man who used to give not one iota of a damn if his team sucked, his best players left in free agency and the Clips barely made minimum salary; and 2) if you have a billion dollars, there will always be a gold digger like this B**** to siphon off some of his money.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#582 » by VanDamme » Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:23 am

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hankscorpioLA wrote:Looks like Silver probably doesn't need to do much.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/2 ... 26620.html


Yup. I posted something along these lines in another thread.

Sterling might be forced to sell simply because of an advertiser/fan boycott. If a Clipper boycott doesn't work, then some major national sponsors could bail on the NBA completely. Once the stench of Sterling starts to hurt the bottom lines of 29 other franchises, you can bet the owners will aggressively move to get Sterling out of the league.


I asked a sports lawyer on Twitter whether league-wide financial implications would give the league more legal leverage - i.e. a better defence if Sterling launches an anti-trust suit to keep his asset. The answer is yes. The owners may not have the right to kick Sterling out just for his comments, but have a right to protect their own interests if they are being damaged by Sterling.


After making it public that they had considered a boycott Doc Rivers recently seemed to go out of his way to make sure fans keep showing up and so on... and I was thinking this will help as a defence in the scenario that Sterling starts blaming losses on these guys. Which is why all this boycott talk doesn't make sense - they'd be setting themselves up for lawsuits.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#583 » by Local_NG_Idiot » Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:35 am

dagger wrote:
Fairview4Life wrote:
hell_razor wrote:At the end of the day this was a private conversation, and this guy still pays his players and takes care of them, etc. You can't force someone to start thinking the same way as you do. As you can see in many pictures and videos he still looks happy having conversations with black players, it's just deep inside him he doesn't feel comfortable chilling with black people.

In no way am I supporting his thinking, but overblown story


Sorry, he's done as an NBA owner and his name is ruined. He will have an extra billion dollars, but he won't get to ogle 'beautiful black bodies' anymore.

He pays his players with the money the players generate by entertaining us. He is a middle man providing little to no value (and in Sterling's case, destroying value) who gets to skim off the top and and sit court side, hoping some of Chris Paul's shine will rub off on him.


I think he's done except for two things: 1) This is a man who used to give not one iota of a damn if his team sucked, his best players left in free agency and the Clips barely made minimum salary; and 2) if you have a billion dollars, there will always be a gold digger like this B**** to siphon off some of his money.


1) and with not giving a damn about winning, he still ran an organization that almost always ran a positive operating income. I don't think he has ever been a socially responsible individual as can be seen from his past, but he has always been a financially responsible NBA owner and is why the league has tolerated his views for so long.

2) Billionaires are no dummies when it comes to money and they how much of it they are in for to get what they want out of some gold digger that wants to siphon off some of his money.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#584 » by hell_razor » Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:49 am

**** is annoying though, if it was a black man saying these things about white people it would be a story then just disappear. There would be a little media about it, people would say he's ignorant, etc, etc. but that's it.

White people would make a joke out of it, showing up to games like never before wearing signs etc. It would be humorous.

Black people are just acting like a bunch of babies about the whole thing, especially Magic Johnson. Sterling is a crazy old man who lives in a different time still with the way he was raised accept it and move on stop crying about EVERYTHING like you're so hurt.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#585 » by hankscorpioLA » Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:56 am

hell_razor wrote:When did Americans stop loving freedom?


Take away his team?

Hes done nothing illegal...he voiced his opinion and its horrible and nasty and bigoted. ...but at the end of the day its his opinion and hes entitled to it.

Land of the free my ass... any line of you advocating that his stuff be taken is a freedom hater.


NBA teams are franchises. As such, the owners of franchises are subject to certain rules governing their behavior.

Those rules exist for precisely this reason.

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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#586 » by TheBatman » Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:17 am

hell_razor wrote:**** is annoying though, if it was a black man saying these things about white people it would be a story then just disappear. There would be a little media about it, people would say he's ignorant, etc, etc. but that's it.

White people would make a joke out of it, showing up to games like never before wearing signs etc. It would be humorous.

Black people are just acting like a bunch of babies about the whole thing, especially Magic Johnson. Sterling is a crazy old man who lives in a different time still with the way he was raised accept it and move on stop crying about EVERYTHING like you're so hurt.


I rarely get into conversations about racism, religion etc, but your thought pattern is warped. You simplify his comments as if what he said is okay. You generalize and speak for an entire group of people, which is ignorant in itself. The fact that he is in a position of power and the people that work for him are the people his comments effect make it an issue. This type of thinking is why racism and this dangerous type of racism (systemic) still exists. If similar comments about gays, women or other group was made it would be an issue too.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#587 » by hell_razor » Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:21 am

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hell_razor wrote:**** is annoying though, if it was a black man saying these things about white people it would be a story then just disappear. There would be a little media about it, people would say he's ignorant, etc, etc. but that's it.

White people would make a joke out of it, showing up to games like never before wearing signs etc. It would be humorous.

Black people are just acting like a bunch of babies about the whole thing, especially Magic Johnson. Sterling is a crazy old man who lives in a different time still with the way he was raised accept it and move on stop crying about EVERYTHING like you're so hurt.


I rarely get into conversations about racism, religion etc, but your thought pattern is warped. You simplify his comments as if what he said is okay. You generalize and speak for an entire group of people, which is ignorant in itself. The fact that he is in a position of power and the people that work for him are the people his comments effect make it an issue. This type of thinking is why racism and this dangerous type of racism (systemic) still exists. If similar comments about gays, women or other group was made it would be an issue too.


But again, I want people to realize that racism in new york 1940 was not just accepted and tolerated, but endorsed. It doesn't affect anyone besides people who 'WANT' to be affected by it.. the players need to be more professional, play for their loyal supporters, each other and their coach.. just completely forget about the old senile bastard together.. it's not like they would say no to the money he is paying them anyhow.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#588 » by hell_razor » Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:25 am

larry johnson is a racist too

New York Knicks executive Larry Johnson has a different take on the racial fire that’s recently ignited over Clippers owner Donald Sterling, looking at the broader picture to make his main point:

"It’s high time blacks started their own league", he said.

In a tweet, the former star player wrote: “Black people your Focusing on the wrong thing. We should be focusing on having our own, Own team own League! To For Self!!”


And this won't get anywhere near the amount of media attention, people will just blow this off....
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#589 » by will » Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:26 am

Welp, Adam Silver's legacy.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#590 » by beanbag » Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:29 am

hell_razor wrote:**** is annoying though, if it was a black man saying these things about white people it would be a story then just disappear. There would be a little media about it, people would say he's ignorant, etc, etc. but that's it.

White people would make a joke out of it, showing up to games like never before wearing signs etc. It would be humorous.

Black people are just acting like a bunch of babies about the whole thing, especially Magic Johnson. Sterling is a crazy old man who lives in a different time still with the way he was raised accept it and move on stop crying about EVERYTHING like you're so hurt.


It's not black people that are making a big deal about it....it's everybody.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#591 » by knickerbocker2k2 » Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:34 am

Part of the reason he is owner is the ego of owning team. That part is totally killed. It ain't like he can go to his own games now. Nor does he have the bragging rights. He is seeing as total clown even probably by his racist friends.

Financially the team is going to take huge hit. Sponsors are all gone. Pretty sure local tv revenue will go south. He also has upcoming divorce. Plus he is 80. The guy is not going to hang around. He will be suspended indefinitely. They will try to minimize damage. In year or two you will hear clippers sold and new branding will start.

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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#592 » by wtfbosh » Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:38 am

hell_razor wrote:**** is annoying though, if it was a black man saying these things about white people it would be a story then just disappear. There would be a little media about it, people would say he's ignorant, etc, etc. but that's it.

White people would make a joke out of it, showing up to games like never before wearing signs etc. It would be humorous.

Black people are just acting like a bunch of babies about the whole thing, especially Magic Johnson. Sterling is a crazy old man who lives in a different time still with the way he was raised accept it and move on stop crying about EVERYTHING like you're so hurt.


yeah black people should totally get over the history of slavery, segregation, and their struggle to integrate into American society. lets get humorous

i hope you never reproduce children.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#593 » by 40 Guzzle » Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:38 am

hell_razor wrote:**** is annoying though, if it was a black man saying these things about white people it would be a story then just disappear. There would be a little media about it, people would say he's ignorant, etc, etc. but that's it.

White people would make a joke out of it, showing up to games like never before wearing signs etc. It would be humorous.

Black people are just acting like a bunch of babies about the whole thing, especially Magic Johnson. Sterling is a crazy old man who lives in a different time still with the way he was raised accept it and move on stop crying about EVERYTHING like you're so hurt.


you read like you're brand new & you're looking at this incident as if it exists in a vacuum

are you at all aware of Sterling's history? This isnt an isolated incident, it's a tipping point.

you need to brush up on your facts
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#594 » by hell_razor » Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:45 am

wtfbosh wrote:
hell_razor wrote:**** is annoying though, if it was a black man saying these things about white people it would be a story then just disappear. There would be a little media about it, people would say he's ignorant, etc, etc. but that's it.

White people would make a joke out of it, showing up to games like never before wearing signs etc. It would be humorous.

Black people are just acting like a bunch of babies about the whole thing, especially Magic Johnson. Sterling is a crazy old man who lives in a different time still with the way he was raised accept it and move on stop crying about EVERYTHING like you're so hurt.


yeah black people should totally get over the history of slavery, segregation, and their struggle to integrate into American society. lets get humorous

i hope you never reproduce children.


my point is that the players need to be more professional, and play for their team.. The old racist man will dealt with tomorrow.
I don't understand how it's shocking that a 80 year old white man growing up in new york is found to be racist ..that's just how it was back then. Force him out of his positions, whatever, then move along. Don't lose a game on purpose to make the story more than what it already is.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#595 » by C Court » Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:45 am

dagger wrote:
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hankscorpioLA wrote:Looks like Silver probably doesn't need to do much.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/2 ... 26620.html


Yup. I posted something along these lines in another thread.

Sterling might be forced to sell simply because of an advertiser/fan boycott. If a Clipper boycott doesn't work, then some major national sponsors could bail on the NBA completely. Once the stench of Sterling starts to hurt the bottom lines of 29 other franchises, you can bet the owners will aggressively move to get Sterling out of the league.


I asked a sports lawyer on Twitter whether league-wide financial implications would give the league more legal leverage - i.e. a better defence if Sterling launches an anti-trust suit to keep his asset. The answer is yes. The owners may not have the right to kick Sterling out just for his comments, but have a right to protect their own interests if they are being damaged by Sterling.


Not surprised. No one knows what's in the NBA franchise agreement, but it's a good bet that the owners can start proceedings to revoke or sell a franchise if another franchise owner's actions are bringing irreparable financial harm to the league. This could be one of those instances.
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Post#596 » by endo » Tue Apr 29, 2014 4:00 am

wtfbosh wrote:
hell_razor wrote:**** is annoying though, if it was a black man saying these things about white people it would be a story then just disappear. There would be a little media about it, people would say he's ignorant, etc, etc. but that's it.

White people would make a joke out of it, showing up to games like never before wearing signs etc. It would be humorous.

Black people are just acting like a bunch of babies about the whole thing, especially Magic Johnson. Sterling is a crazy old man who lives in a different time still with the way he was raised accept it and move on stop crying about EVERYTHING like you're so hurt.


yeah black people should totally get over the history of slavery, segregation, and their struggle to integrate into American society. lets get humorous

i hope you never reproduce children.



Have you ever been around a group of black guys when they see a white guy with a black women?


Black people are just as bad about this.


I'd like to see how Kenny Smith, Magic Johnson, Shaq ect..... would feel seeing their daughter or sister on Instagram hugging up to several different white guys.



Hey, this is all stupid and any racism from whichever group is wrong. But let's not be hypocrites here.
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Post#597 » by Geddy » Tue Apr 29, 2014 4:34 am

hell_razor wrote:**** is annoying though, if it was a black man saying these things about white people it would be a story then just disappear. There would be a little media about it, people would say he's ignorant, etc, etc. but that's it.

White people would make a joke out of it, showing up to games like never before wearing signs etc. It would be humorous.

Black people are just acting like a bunch of babies about the whole thing, especially Magic Johnson. Sterling is a crazy old man who lives in a different time still with the way he was raised accept it and move on stop crying about EVERYTHING like you're so hurt.



The level of ignorance in this post hurt my head.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#598 » by hell_razor » Tue Apr 29, 2014 4:40 am

Geddy wrote:
hell_razor wrote:**** is annoying though, if it was a black man saying these things about white people it would be a story then just disappear. There would be a little media about it, people would say he's ignorant, etc, etc. but that's it.

White people would make a joke out of it, showing up to games like never before wearing signs etc. It would be humorous.

Black people are just acting like a bunch of babies about the whole thing, especially Magic Johnson. Sterling is a crazy old man who lives in a different time still with the way he was raised accept it and move on stop crying about EVERYTHING like you're so hurt.



The level of ignorance in this post hurt my head.


How is this ignorance? I absolutely oppose Sterling's thoughts about black people but the way the media in general, the players, and black celebrities have been retaliating is ignorance as well.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#599 » by 40 Guzzle » Tue Apr 29, 2014 4:44 am

Dude, educate yourself

this incident doesnt even make the top 10 of Donald Sterling racist moments

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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#600 » by cammac » Tue Apr 29, 2014 4:44 am

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dagger wrote:
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Yup. I posted something along these lines in another thread.

Sterling might be forced to sell simply because of an advertiser/fan boycott. If a Clipper boycott doesn't work, then some major national sponsors could bail on the NBA completely. Once the stench of Sterling starts to hurt the bottom lines of 29 other franchises, you can bet the owners will aggressively move to get Sterling out of the league.


I asked a sports lawyer on Twitter whether league-wide financial implications would give the league more legal leverage - i.e. a better defence if Sterling launches an anti-trust suit to keep his asset. The answer is yes. The owners may not have the right to kick Sterling out just for his comments, but have a right to protect their own interests if they are being damaged by Sterling.


Not surprised. No one knows what's in the NBA franchise agreement, but it's a good bet that the owners can start proceedings to revoke or sell a franchise if another franchise owner's actions are bringing irreparable financial harm to the league. This could be one of those instances.


It is no different than Tim Hortons or McDonalds taking franchises away from people that hurt there brand.

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