"WCIHAoTDP?" - 2016 Draft Thread P.2

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

I'm all for stocking up on High Ceiling risky Big Men, so Bender at 3; Zhou and Maker in some order at 16 & 23 - you have to figure
that one of those guys will strike it big in time, and they likely won't take up a lot of roster space, Zhou still needs seasoning
in China, Maker needs two years of the NBDL, and Bender with the Big Club, but hopefully some quality Big Man to tutor him.

I'm hoping that soon Chad will tell us who Ainge is targeting; won't surprise me if it is Bender, but Hield is also a
good possibility and I'm sure he likes Ingram and Chriss.

And I think an Aingeian darkhorse is Ellenson. He's big, he can score, he can rebound, block a few shots, not so good on
defense, but that hasn't stopped Danny before.

And of course, we know AInge is going to draft a combo guard or two with 8 draft picks. Cat Barber somewhere in
second round and there's plenty of room for Gary Payton II too.

And what about the local guy, Ainge tends to draft a local guy every now and then, so how about Ben Bentil with the
23rd, 31st or 35th picks?

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

And how can we forget Ainge's coveted Undersized PF, well Guerschon Yabusele step right up!

[ddb]

Few draft notes. I'm in on Maker. Here's why.....I get that he's raw. But 7 footers that can move like that, shoot like that, dribble like that and block shots like that DO NOT grow on trees. Plus, he's a worker. He tried being a face up player which hurt his stock, but with good coaching and a good organization, this kid has a chance to be really, really good.

I'd much rather gamble on a Maker then draft a Brice Johnson. Just my opinion.

Also, Buddy Hield is going to be a star. He has the X Factor. If Boston has #3 or 4, doesn't trade the pick and Buddy is on the board....gonna be hard to pass him up. Ainge shouldn't pass him up. Draft a star

Gamble on Maker when? You do realize Johnson damn nearly put up 20/10 for a deep talented team that made the finals. Not to mention he'll ace any athletic testing. I love Maker in the 2nd rd, 35 at the highest. I'm totally good with Buddy assuming the frontline is seriously addressed.

I like Brice Johnson, but he'll be Taj Gibson at best in the league. Whereas Maker could bust out, but he could also be a superstar. He has crazy upside. With the amount of picks we have, if Ainge drafts and doesn't trade out for an established player, outside of the BK pick I'd like to see him make another run at consolidating a moving up. Too soon to discuss too deeply. It will all come down to workouts.

[ddb]

I'd be pretty thrilled with a Hield, Maker, Valentine draft. Move up if need be for Maker and/or Valentine if we don't trade for established star or land in Top 2

I don't know anything about Maker aside from what's been written in this thread, but I'd rather take a large gamble with the 16th or 23rd picks than with the 3rd (or 4th or 5th). If we're keeping the 3rd (big "if"), I think we need it to yield a player who can help us right away. We need shooting and we need at least one starter quality big. We won't get the latter with the 3rd pick, but I agree that Hield could very well help our woeful shooting from Day 1.

Simmons/Ingram/Hield/Dunn are gonna be the guys from this draft. And then Maker/Skal are really high upside guys that could be really good too. I think Jamal Murray is solid, but ends up getting drafted higher then what he'll become in the pros...Bender, I have no clue about... Lightning usually doesn't strike 2 drafts in a row, so going off of history I'm afraid Bender could fall into the Euro bust group. But again, I don't know anything about the guy other then Youtube clips which doesn't mean crap.
There are about 12 Jaylen Browns in the league right now. Talented kid....needs to learn how to shoot. Celts aren't in the market for a Jaylen Brown.
Poeltl, I think we've all seen this movie before... There's always a really solid white Center that goes lottery and then doesn't do much in the league. It's a long list.
There's gonna be guys like Valentine and Prince that go mid to late first round but end up being really good. That's another movie we have all seen before. Like Denzel Valetine ends up being the 3rd best player on a Championship team and tons of people are like, "how didn't I see that coming?"

Anyway, I think at #3 we go Hield. Kid is a stud. Has the "it" factor. Bit of a late bloomer but that doesn't concern me. He has an NBA body, crazy range and shot making ability....his handle is good... I could see him plugged right into our starting lineup and averaging 18ppg as a rookie. Not my pie in the sky scenario, as I'm all-in for Durant, but I really do like Hield.

[ddb]

For what it is worth, Zhou has declared (7'2, 210 (!) pounds). Would seem to be a stretch (ha ha) to make it. Maybe if Sully is signed, he could become this guys nutritional consultant?

Zhou is absolutely trash. Just saying

[SmartWentCrazy]

I'd love to package 16-23-35 to move up to ~10/12 to take Maker. He's an excellent use of a consolidation of our some of our excess picks. I would not even dream of touching him with the BKN pick, but would love to slowly develop and mold Maker, which is a luxury that a late lottery pick affords.

[ddb]

back when LeBron was in High School Danny Ainge was quoted as saying that there were ONLY 4-5 NBA players that he wouldn't trade for the rights to draft LeBron James. This was when LeBron was in High School. Think about how bold of a statement that is by Ainge...So you'd have to imagine that at the time Ainge was talking about Kobe, KG, Duncan and Shaq. And rightfully so...Those are 4 HOF'ers.
When Rondo was about to peak as a young star, and Steph Curry was battling bad ankles to the point that people were wondering if his ankles would be an ongoing issue throughout his career...Ainge wanted to trade Rondo in a package for Curry.
back during the Perk to OKC for Green deal, Ainge tried really hard to get Harden in that deal... Back when Oden was the consensus #1 player in the draft coming out of Ohio State.......Danny's closest peers say that Danny would have taken Durant #1.

I trust Danny will make the right call in June...whether that's trading the pick/picks or keeping the picks. Danny knows Stars...He doesn't always hit home runs with mid to late 1st rounders, but when it comes to identifying superstars....Danny knows his sh&t.

[return2glory]

This draft is deeper than many think. It's going to be fun to see how it all unfolds.

[ddb]

Salivating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf6EKfsVg9Y Simmons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXGf2eF3fZA Ingram

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRKmLunK42Y Buddy

These are the 3 fits on the Celtics.

[lon3lytoaster]

Salivating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf6EKfsVg9Y Simmons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXGf2eF3fZA Ingram

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRKmLunK42Y Buddy

These are the 3 fits on the Celtics.

The thing that encourages me about Buddy is his work ethic. Guys who want to improve the way he wants to improve don't just stop getting better. They continuously develop and add new tricks. I'd call that "upside."

I think he has a chance to be the next Lillard. I'd be okay with him, for sure. Same for Valentine. I need me some shooting on our roster.

[Homerclease]

Salivating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf6EKfsVg9Y Simmons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXGf2eF3fZA Ingram

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRKmLunK42Y Buddy

These are the 3 fits on the Celtics.

The thing that encourages me about Buddy is his work ethic. Guys who want to improve the way he wants to improve don't just stop getting better. They continuously develop and add new tricks. I'd call that "upside."

I think he has a chance to be the next Lillard. I'd be okay with him, for sure. Same for Valentine. I need me some shooting on our roster.

They have guys who can shoot they just don't play them. I'd rather trade the pick than draft Hield. If the Celtics are hanging onto picks they damn well better be using them in the front court. I'll stand by my choices.

3. Bender
16. Skal
23. Maker
31. Hernangomez
35. Qi

[ddb]

^^^ Free agency.

[Homerclease]

^^^ Free agency.

You hope. There's no guarantee the Celtics sign anyone even though I'm 99% sure they will. I know for sure the Celtics have draft picks though and I know for sure that their front court sucks.

[Bluewhale]

back when LeBron was in High School Danny Ainge was quoted as saying that there were ONLY 4-5 NBA players that he wouldn't trade for the rights to draft LeBron James. This was when LeBron was in High School. Think about how bold of a statement that is by Ainge...So you'd have to imagine that at the time Ainge was talking about Kobe, KG, Duncan and Shaq. And rightfully so...Those are 4 HOF'ers.
When Rondo was about to peak as a young star, and Steph Curry was battling bad ankles to the point that people were wondering if his ankles would be an ongoing issue throughout his career...Ainge wanted to trade Rondo in a package for Curry.
back during the Perk to OKC for Green deal, Ainge tried really hard to get Harden in that deal... Back when Oden was the consensus #1 player in the draft coming out of Ohio State.......Danny's closest peers say that Danny would have taken Durant #1.

I trust Danny will make the right call in June...whether that's trading the pick/picks or keeping the picks. Danny knows Stars...He doesn't always hit home runs with mid to late 1st rounders, but when it comes to identifying superstars....Danny knows his sh&t.

In addition, when everyone said 2014 draft was super strong and Ainge said it is overrated. Now we know who is correct.

[Wes-J]

Salivating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf6EKfsVg9Y Simmons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXGf2eF3fZA Ingram

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRKmLunK42Y Buddy

These are the 3 fits on the Celtics.

The thing that encourages me about Buddy is his work ethic. Guys who want to improve the way he wants to improve don't just stop getting better. They continuously develop and add new tricks. I'd call that "upside."

I think he has a chance to be the next Lillard. I'd be okay with him, for sure. Same for Valentine. I need me some shooting on our roster.

They have guys who can shoot they just don't play them. I'd rather trade the pick than draft Hield. If the Celtics are hanging onto picks they damn well better be using them in the front court. I'll stand by my choices.

3. Bender
16. Skal
23. Maker
31. Hernangomez
35. Qi

I'm not necessarily saying those guys are the wrong choices but understand they're at least a few years away from any sort of meaningful contribution.

[Wes-J]

Few draft notes. I'm in on Maker. Here's why.....I get that he's raw. But 7 footers that can move like that, shoot like that, dribble like that and block shots like that DO NOT grow on trees. Plus, he's a worker. He tried being a face up player which hurt his stock, but with good coaching and a good organization, this kid has a chance to be really, really good.

I'd much rather gamble on a Maker then draft a Brice Johnson. Just my opinion.

Also, Buddy Hield is going to be a star. He has the X Factor. If Boston has #3 or 4, doesn't trade the pick and Buddy is on the board....gonna be hard to pass him up. Ainge shouldn't pass him up. Draft a star

Gamble on Maker when? You do realize Johnson damn nearly put up 20/10 for a deep talented team that made the finals. Not to mention he'll ace any athletic testing. I love Maker in the 2nd rd, 35 at the highest. I'm totally good with Buddy assuming the frontline is seriously addressed.

I like Brice Johnson, but he'll be Taj Gibson at best in the league. Whereas Maker could bust out, but he could also be a superstar. He has crazy upside. With the amount of picks we have, if Ainge drafts and doesn't trade out for an established player, outside of the BK pick I'd like to see him make another run at consolidating a moving up. Too soon to discuss too deeply. It will all come down to workouts.

Would happily accept a Gibson. Would be our best frontcourt player.

[Writebloc]

Can we just get Buddy on lay away against the Hawks?

[Andrew McCeltic]

Salivating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf6EKfsVg9Y Simmons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXGf2eF3fZA Ingram

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRKmLunK42Y Buddy

These are the 3 fits on the Celtics.

The thing that encourages me about Buddy is his work ethic. Guys who want to improve the way he wants to improve don't just stop getting better. They continuously develop and add new tricks. I'd call that "upside."

I think he has a chance to be the next Lillard. I'd be okay with him, for sure. Same for Valentine. I need me some shooting on our roster.

You can't take Hield at 3, maybe at 5 or 6.. But Hield and Dunn, and maybe Bender, are going to attract some trade attention in our draft slot. Like, maybe SAC decides starting fresh with WCS and Bender is a good reset.. 3, Rozier, Young might be enough for Demarcus.

The fun thing about being at the top of the draft with a playoff team and cap space is that we'll have a ton of flexibility. Trading out with 3 and in with other assets is my favorite scenario- get someone like Cousins or Okafor with the third pick, deal Bradley to Toronto for the 8th to draft a low-salary wing like Hield, Brown or Murray..

[Andrew McCeltic]

You can also pretty much guarantee Ainge will be looking to consolidate 16, 23, 31, 35... + Young, Hunter, Rozier, and maybe Olynyk or Mickey.

Some might get dumped for cash or top-55 protected seconds, future 1sts if we're lucky, or trade-ups in this year's draft, like 16/23/Hunter to Utah for 12.

[DoubleHappiness]

3. Bender
16. Skal
23. Maker
31. Hernangomez
35. Qi

I get your strategy here to go for five scratch off tickets and hope for the big payout. But there is a good chance all five of those guys are out of the league in five years.

I don't know anything about Bender beyond the intriguing measureables, but I want to see how he looks in workouts, especially after reading someone's evaluation of him as not even as tough as Bargs. More inclined to agree w/ you on Skal but dude just looked awful at times this year.