2019-20 OKC Thunder Regular Season Thread

jambalaya · Post #581 » by **jambalaya** » Sun Mar 1, 2020 1:16 am

Pass on Crabbe for me.

Pgs and bigger forwards are what I'd seek. But Presti probably adds neither, nothing.

Thunder Up · Post #582 » by **Thunder Up** » Sun Mar 1, 2020 7:14 pm

jambalaya wrote:Pass on Crabbe for me.

Pgs and bigger forwards are what I'd seek. But Presti probably adds neither, nothing.

Pgs? What?
This team literally has maybe one NBA level SG / SF's and Crabbe fits the criteria

jambalaya · Post #583 » by **jambalaya** » Sun Mar 1, 2020 7:17 pm

jambalaya wrote:Starters with Dort are about -3 per 100/poss. With Ferg was -4. If they care about seed, they should consider changing. If they care about playoffs, they should be testing other things BEFORE then. Which... knowing them, might be something old instead of even newer.

The lineup data screams play the 3 PGS more. Usage is stuck about 8 min / gm. THE SMART THING IMO WOULD BE TO SIGN ANOTHER PG OR TWO TO ALLOW MAXIMIZING THE 3 PG LINEUP, handling the other minutes AND MAYBE ADD EVEN MORE 3 PG TIME.

I guess you missed or forgot this explanation on just previous page.

Crabbe estimated at 124th SG of 126 on RPM. BPM has him far far below replacement level too.

Post #584 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Mar 2, 2020 11:31 pm

Read on Twitter

This is embarrassing.

getrichordie · Post #585 » by **getrichordie** » Tue Mar 3, 2020 4:46 am

jambalaya wrote:
jambalaya wrote:Starters with Dort are about -3 per 100/poss. With Ferg was -4. If they care about seed, they should consider changing. If they care about playoffs, they should be testing other things BEFORE then. Which... knowing them, might be something old instead of even newer.

The lineup data screams play the 3 PGS more. Usage is stuck about 8 min / gm. THE SMART THING IMO WOULD BE TO SIGN ANOTHER PG OR TWO TO ALLOW MAXIMIZING THE 3 PG LINEUP, handling the other minutes AND MAYBE ADD EVEN MORE 3 PG TIME.

I guess you missed or forgot this explanation on just previous page.

Crabbe estimated at 124th SG of 126 on RPM. BPM has him far far below replacement level too.

Can we sign Tyler Ennis Shane Larkin?

Thabo Sefolosha · Post #586 » by **Thabo Sefolosha** » Tue Mar 3, 2020 4:47 am

ThunderBolt wrote:

Read on Twitter

This is embarrassing.

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jambalaya · Post #587 » by **jambalaya** » Tue Mar 3, 2020 10:30 pm

Larkin probably not going to be let out of contract but could try. Shooting great in Euroleague.

getrichordie · Post #588 » by **getrichordie** » Wed Mar 4, 2020 12:18 am

The way things are going at this point, everyone is pretty much trade-able outside of SGA. I’d definitely try my best to keep Schroder for the foreseeable future too, though.

Could definitely net some serious assets. Could see Miami going after Schroder instead of Paul depending on how things shake out with their Giannis chase.

Player’s I’d like to keep moving forward:

SGA
Schroder
Bazley
Noel
Nader (provides cheap necessary depth long-term)
Muscala (“ “)

We have to find better wing prospects than Diallo and Ferguson. Plain and simple. Dort hasn’t shown to be anything special but gives good effort and is a streaky shooter.

We definitely need to take BPA that fits our style of play. We need someone who can run the floor, play solid defense, and at least hit the corner 3 with consistency.

I’d like to see us grab Stewart, Ramsey, or Smith.

jambalaya · Post #589 » by **jambalaya** » Wed Mar 4, 2020 7:24 am

17th best record against the Sagarin top 10.

Want to win in playoffs? Change, then. Increase the 3 guard lineups. A lot.

Replace Burton with a PG.

Ferguson, Diallo, Burton, no yr to yr improvement. Some slippage. Bad choices from the very beginning. Part of the Presti Big Brothers side focus. Nader has gotten better. Noel has by boxscore. Probably headed elsewhere. Hervey, another back story / Big Bro project (and same age as B Clarke at that.) Roby? Who knows. 22, fwiw. Big Bro project. Dort? Tick, tick...

Post #590 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Mar 4, 2020 3:00 pm

Read on Twitter

jambalaya · Post #591 » by **jambalaya** » Wed Mar 4, 2020 4:33 pm

Bulls not getting Presti without pushing Paxton & Forman completely out and giving Presti a 7 year deal at $8-12 mil / yr. Very unlikely. Would he take 5 years for less money and / or less total control and some goons still in background including Doug Collins? (What they might offer.) I doubt it.

I said add a PG but it could be PG, or combo guard or wing with good creation. Dort might be able to create but not given that task yet.

Post #592 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Mar 4, 2020 5:04 pm

It really comes down to how much we trust Clay Bennett to hire a replacement. I don't think anyone really has any idea about that.

Pillendreher · Post #593 » by **Pillendreher** » Wed Mar 4, 2020 5:22 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:It really comes down to how much we trust Clay Bennett to hire a replacement. I don't think anyone really has any idea about that.

I'll do it. With me at the helm, we'd dominate the NBA for a 1000 years easily.

Post #594 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Mar 4, 2020 5:25 pm

Pillendreher wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:It really comes down to how much we trust Clay Bennett to hire a replacement. I don't think anyone really has any idea about that.

I'll do it. With me at the helm, we'd dominate the NBA for a 1000 years easily.

And Patrick Patterson would be playing 40 minutes a game. 8-)

Pillendreher · Post #595 » by **Pillendreher** » Wed Mar 4, 2020 11:03 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:It really comes down to how much we trust Clay Bennett to hire a replacement. I don't think anyone really has any idea about that.

I'll do it. With me at the helm, we'd dominate the NBA for a 1000 years easily.

And Patrick Patterson would be playing 40 minutes a game.

That would be unfair towards the rest of the league. I don't want to cheat.

getrichordie · Post #596 » by **getrichordie** » Thu Mar 5, 2020 8:20 pm

Really hope we don’t lose Presti. If Presti does leave, who are some potential candidates for his replacement?

Post #597 » by **Dadouv47** » Thu Mar 5, 2020 9:24 pm

getrichordie wrote:Really hope we don’t lose Presti. If Presti does leave, who are some potential candidates for his replacement?

Morey may be free in the end of this season

(he could trade all our FRP in two seasons though :lol:

)

Kizz Fastfists · Post #598 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Thu Mar 5, 2020 10:51 pm

getrichordie wrote:Really hope we don’t lose Presti. If Presti does leave, who are some potential candidates for his replacement?

If they catch me in the right mood they might be able to talk me into it.

jambalaya · Post #599 » by **jambalaya** » Thu Mar 5, 2020 11:56 pm

Winger maybe, if give the right high title (to allow his consideration) and right pay (to try to convince to leave LA).

In general, some #2 or 3 from a very good team.

Ask Larry Harris with the Warriors but unlikely.

Bobby Webster, if you made a really aggressive offer.

Chad Buchanan.

Andy Birdsong. (Nets now, Spurs before)

Possibly Danny Ferry.

Probably Birdsong, if they don't just go with Weaver. I don't know the level of regard for Weaver among the owners.

Post #600 » by **Dadouv47** » Fri Mar 6, 2020 12:27 am

Presti made several mistakes (mostly during the 2013-2016 period) but I really hope he will stay happen because he's still one of the best GM in the NBA. He had some flaws and probably relied too much on Westbrook (and I'm a huge Westbrook fan) but he made some great trades and is good at drafting.
Can't really think about a major mistake he has made since Durant left..probably overpaying Adams (trading for Schroeder was also on my list but this season he's doing so well that...not such a big mistake).