2020 Draft Thread

Profound23 · Post #581 » by **Profound23** » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:25 pm

sdn40 wrote:Driver was taken in the 7th so no need to go with a high pick on a WR !!

Exactly

Pats took Brady in the 6th
Broncos drafted Terrell Davis in the 6th
Deacon Jones in the 14th

Why dont we just trade down until we have all the 6th and 7th round picks?

IDC what position (excluding punter/kicker) give me the best player at any position.

sdn40 · Post #582 » by **sdn40** » Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:34 am

Profound23 wrote:
sdn40 wrote:Driver was taken in the 7th so no need to go with a high pick on a WR !!

Exactly

Pats took Brady in the 6th
Broncos drafted Terrell Davis in the 6th
Deacon Jones in the 14th

Why dont we just trade down until we have all the 6th and 7th round picks?

IDC what position (excluding punter/kicker) give me the best player at any position.

I always bring that up whenever I see the Tausher excuse not to draft OL in the first. Yea, 25 years ago Tausher was got in the 7th. Fans disregard the 50 Datko's and Murphy's that didn't work out since. I just find it funny. It's the go to excuse for wanting a WR or C.J Spiller etc etc. in the First. Just man up and say "OL is boring and I don't care about it."

Dandridgefav · Post #583 » by **Dandridgefav** » Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:54 am

A Trade-Down Draft
OUT IN
1,7= 2,3,4
2,7 = 3,4,5

DRAFT
2 DL Raekwon Davis, Alabama - the run stops here
3 DL Marlon Davidson, Auburn - interior rush / solid vs run - possible 3 down player
3 RT Matt Peart, CT - good skill set vs both run & pass - use rookie season get stronger learn from vets
3 WR-RB Michael Pittman Jr., USC - slot candidate – good size, speed - gets YAC
4 ILB Troy Dye, Oregon - has speed to stay with RB or TE and aggresive tackler too - possible 3 down player
4 RB-WR Antonio Gibson, Memphis - slot candidate - shifty makes would-be tacklers miss - gets YAC
5 ILB Malik Harrison, Ohio State - decent in zone coverage – tackles with a “pop”
5 ILB Logan Simpson, Wyoming - had several interceptions each season
6 CB
6 OLB
6 TE

defense = 7
offense = 5

Profound23 · Post #584 » by **Profound23** » Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:04 am

sdn40 wrote:
Profound23 wrote:
sdn40 wrote:Driver was taken in the 7th so no need to go with a high pick on a WR !!

Exactly

Pats took Brady in the 6th
Broncos drafted Terrell Davis in the 6th
Deacon Jones in the 14th

Why dont we just trade down until we have all the 6th and 7th round picks?

IDC what position (excluding punter/kicker) give me the best player at any position.

I always bring that up whenever I see the Tausher excuse not to draft OL in the first. Yea, 25 years ago Tausher was got in the 7th. Fans disregard the 50 Datko's and Murphy's that didn't work out since. I just find it funny. It's the go to excuse for wanting a WR or C.J Spiller etc etc. in the First. Just man up and say "OL is boring and I don't care about it."

Being fans of a team that drafted Tony Mandarich over Barry Sanders, Deion Sanders, and Derrick Thomas doesn't help either I suppose.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #585 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:35 pm

Some quick research on where 2019 AP All Pro OL were drafted. 1st team 4 1st round picks and Kelse was a 6th rounder. 2nd team (6 guys because of a tie) 3 2nd rounder, 2 3rd rounders and Bak as a 4th rounder.

M-C-G · Post #586 » by **M-C-G** » Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:00 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:Some quick research on where 2019 AP All Pro OL were drafted. 1st team 4 1st round picks and Kelse was a 6th rounder. 2nd team (6 guys because of a tie) 3 2nd rounder, 2 3rd rounders and Bak as a 4th rounder.

I like Ben Bartch as a potential 3rd round OT in this draft. PFF had a write up about his senior bowl showing he could D1 caliber guys.

Best Trait - Technique

Worst Trait - Functional Strength

Best Film - Chapman (2019)

Worst Film - Wisconsin Whitewater (2019)

Red Flags - None

Player Summary - Ben Bartch is a high end developmental OT prospect who, with some additional time in an NFL strength and conditioning program, should become a quality starter at the NFL level. Bartch has wonderful fundamentals for a small school prospect and, with a bit more added functional strength to his frame, should be a well rounded pass protector. Bartch's resume is boosted by a strong showing at the 2020 Senior Bowl — he proved his mettle against a slew of pass rushers in Mobile.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #587 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:26 pm

M-C-G wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:Some quick research on where 2019 AP All Pro OL were drafted. 1st team 4 1st round picks and Kelse was a 6th rounder. 2nd team (6 guys because of a tie) 3 2nd rounder, 2 3rd rounders and Bak as a 4th rounder.

I like Ben Bartch as a potential 3rd round OT in this draft. PFF had a write up about his senior bowl showing he could D1 caliber guys.

Best Trait - Technique

Worst Trait - Functional Strength

Best Film - Chapman (2019)

Worst Film - Wisconsin Whitewater (2019)

Red Flags - None

Player Summary - Ben Bartch is a high end developmental OT prospect who, with some additional time in an NFL strength and conditioning program, should become a quality starter at the NFL level. Bartch has wonderful fundamentals for a small school prospect and, with a bit more added functional strength to his frame, should be a well rounded pass protector. Bartch's resume is boosted by a strong showing at the 2020 Senior Bowl — he proved his mettle against a slew of pass rushers in Mobile.

I was reading something the other day saying he was a potential steal. Can't fault him too much for bad tape against my alma mater UWW they are just too good

Post #588 » by **ReasonablySober** » Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:32 pm

If Tua starts to slide into the teens do you advocate for GB to move up and take him? Because I would be all over that.

Matches Malone · Post #589 » by **Matches Malone** » Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:25 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:If Tua starts to slide into the teens do you advocate for GB to move up and take him? Because I would be all over that.

RRyder823 · Post #590 » by **RRyder823** » Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:34 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:If Tua starts to slide into the teens do you advocate for GB to move up and take him? Because I would be all over that.

Depends. If Tua slides I'd assume that Love is still on the board also and looking like a lock to be available at 30.

I'd much prefer Tua but I'd probably be just as good with Love considering the draft capital to move up.

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Profound23 · Post #591 » by **Profound23** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:08 am

ReasonablySober wrote:If Tua starts to slide into the teens do you advocate for GB to move up and take him? Because I would be all over that.

I have my reservations about Tua, but if he slid far enough I would have no problem taking that chance.

Karmaloop · Post #592 » by **Karmaloop** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:01 am

ReasonablySober wrote:If Tua starts to slide into the teens do you advocate for GB to move up and take him? Because I would be all over that.

No. If he falls to 30, would I consider taking him? Sure. But I'm not moving up for him. Hell, I'm not sure there's anyone I'd move up for that I'd realistically be in range to take.

sdn40 · Post #593 » by **sdn40** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:26 am

Heard an interesting take on Tua.
He thinks he's more athletic than he is, which causes him to get caught, hence 3 lower leg injuries. Not a great sign heading into the NFL. I'm not taking a 6' QB regardless, but something else to think about

Profound23 · Post #594 » by **Profound23** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 6:06 am

CBSsports with the worst mock draft ever.

Jordyn Brooks as our first round pick.....but they have him ranked as their 139th best player and 11th best linebacker.

RRyder823 · Post #595 » by **RRyder823** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 6:19 am

Profound23 wrote:CBSsports with the worst mock draft ever.

Jordyn Brooks as our first round pick.....but they have him ranked as their 139th best player and 11th best linebacker.

I just looked at CBS Sports and its Logan Wilson they have us taking as the 127th best prospect.... In the 3rd round

The mock I've seen from them has us taking Mims in the 1st

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RRyder823 · Post #596 » by **RRyder823** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 6:56 am

This is probably the least zero'd in on guys I've fallen in love with and hope they're available in quite some years. (2 years ago it was Derwin James and last year it was pretty much Bush and White as examples)

This year however there's just not a guy I've fallen in love with as the "God let him fall to us" player. Maybe Queen but even then I'm not going to take issue if he's there and Gute decides to go with say a Tackle like Jones, one of about 5 possible WRs or even a QB like Love

If history has taught me anything however it means if Jones, Queen, Murray, Love, Tua, Mims, Higgins and Reagor are all going to be available Gute is 100% drafting Winfield Jr

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JayMKE · Post #597 » by **JayMKE** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:15 am

Trading up for a developmental QB would be ultimate insult to injury with Rodgers, I'd much rather just sign a decent veteran back up QB to fill in when need be. I don't understand why anybody would be in a hurry to push Rodgers out of the door, he just said he wants to play into his 40s so there is no intention on retiring just yet. There will be other guys in future drafts closer to when this will be a problem, other bigger needs to be filled. You gotta be convinced a guy is a HOFer to put them on such a development plan, it worked with Rodgers but that doesn't mean it will again.

RiotPunch · Post #598 » by **RiotPunch** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:14 am

Karmaloop wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:If Tua starts to slide into the teens do you advocate for GB to move up and take him? Because I would be all over that.

No. If he falls to 30, would I consider taking him? Sure. But I'm not moving up for him. Hell, I'm not sure there's anyone I'd move up for that I'd realistically be in range to take.

Long time no see, brother, how ya been?

What are you hoping to see us do this weekend?

raysbookclub · Post #599 » by **raysbookclub** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:43 am

Profound23 wrote:
sdn40 wrote:
Profound23 wrote:
Exactly

Pats took Brady in the 6th
Broncos drafted Terrell Davis in the 6th
Deacon Jones in the 14th

Why dont we just trade down until we have all the 6th and 7th round picks?

IDC what position (excluding punter/kicker) give me the best player at any position.

I always bring that up whenever I see the Tausher excuse not to draft OL in the first. Yea, 25 years ago Tausher was got in the 7th. Fans disregard the 50 Datko's and Murphy's that didn't work out since. I just find it funny. It's the go to excuse for wanting a WR or C.J Spiller etc etc. in the First. Just man up and say "OL is boring and I don't care about it."

Being fans of a team that drafted Tony Mandarich over Barry Sanders, Deion Sanders, and Derrick Thomas doesn't help either I suppose.

Then again, remember that time TJ Watt fell into our lap and we decided Vince Beigel was the same guy in the fourth round. Hey let’s trade down and pick up Beigel with the extra pick! Sigh.

raysbookclub · Post #600 » by **raysbookclub** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:49 am

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:Some quick research on where 2019 AP All Pro OL were drafted. 1st team 4 1st round picks and Kelse was a 6th rounder. 2nd team (6 guys because of a tie) 3 2nd rounder, 2 3rd rounders and Bak as a 4th rounder.

I like Ben Bartch as a potential 3rd round OT in this draft. PFF had a write up about his senior bowl showing he could D1 caliber guys.

Best Trait - Technique

Worst Trait - Functional Strength

Best Film - Chapman (2019)

Worst Film - Wisconsin Whitewater (2019)

Red Flags - None

Player Summary - Ben Bartch is a high end developmental OT prospect who, with some additional time in an NFL strength and conditioning program, should become a quality starter at the NFL level. Bartch has wonderful fundamentals for a small school prospect and, with a bit more added functional strength to his frame, should be a well rounded pass protector. Bartch's resume is boosted by a strong showing at the 2020 Senior Bowl — he proved his mettle against a slew of pass rushers in Mobile.

I was reading something the other day saying he was a potential steal. Can't fault him too much for bad tape against my alma mater UWW they are just too good

If we could get a guy who could be the preferred starter at OT in 2021 in the third round this year, that’s great.