Coronavirus

[Susan]

I was starting an Amazon order. Why is prime/fresh/whole foods all different? If I understand what you're saying, I shouldn't do the latter two? But then I can't get any fresh items, just non-perishable right?

Prime = separate

Whole Foods + Prime Now + Amazon Fresh = relying on Whole Foods' infrastructure and is not going to be able to keep up.

Switch to dry goods on Amazon Prime.

Thanks. Just tried out Walmart.com for the first time. First available time is Tuesday.

Amazon Prime is better, you don't have to go to the store and pick it up.

The delivery systems through amazon can scale and handle this. They are insanely agile.

Walmart.com might rely on shipping to the stores, don't do that. These stores are overwhelmed as it is, Amazon can handle more pickers/packer/delivery drivers pretty quickly. They've done it before in the holiday rush. Grocery are inefficient in fixing this, it's a constant sprint and they're right by people. It's a MESS.

[Susan]

I was starting an Amazon order. Why is prime/fresh/whole foods all different? If I understand what you're saying, I shouldn't do the latter two? But then I can't get any fresh items, just non-perishable right?

Prime = separate

Whole Foods + Prime Now + Amazon Fresh = relying on Whole Foods' infrastructure and is not going to be able to keep up.

Switch to dry goods on Amazon Prime.

Dry goods are the key. I am well stocked on those.

Water isnt an issue. Neither is electricity or gas. So, as long as the kitchen is working...dry goods are the key.

Cannot stress this enough.

Don't know how canned vegetables are going to work but get grains, get rice, get beans. It's going to be a little more expensive but it's ok. Shipping will get it to you!

[Ccwatercraft]

Prime = separate

Whole Foods + Prime Now + Amazon Fresh = relying on Whole Foods' infrastructure and is not going to be able to keep up.

Switch to dry goods on Amazon Prime.

Thanks. Just tried out Walmart.com for the first time. First available time is Tuesday.

Amazon Prime is better, you don't have to go to the store and pick it up.

The delivery systems through amazon can scale and handle this. They are insanely agile.

Walmart.com might rely on shipping to the stores, don't do that. These stores are overwhelmed as it is, Amazon can handle more pickers/packer/delivery drivers pretty quickly. They've done it before in the holiday rush. Grocery are inefficient in fixing this, it's a constant sprint and they're right by people. It's a MESS.

walmart ships right to your door. and generally cheaper than amazon, but many many items out of stock on both sites.

[MalagaBulls]

Another development:

Here by Spanish national decree we have limited freedom of movement. Can only go to work, doctor, essential shopping, etc.

[Susan]

Thanks. Just tried out Walmart.com for the first time. First available time is Tuesday.

Amazon Prime is better, you don't have to go to the store and pick it up.

The delivery systems through amazon can scale and handle this. They are insanely agile.

Walmart.com might rely on shipping to the stores, don't do that. These stores are overwhelmed as it is, Amazon can handle more pickers/packer/delivery drivers pretty quickly. They've done it before in the holiday rush. Grocery are inefficient in fixing this, it's a constant sprint and they're right by people. It's a MESS.

walmart ships right to your door. and generally cheaper than amazon, but many many items out of stock on both sites.

Awesome! Thanks for helping out.

[suckfish]

Has anyone been paying attention to what's going on in the UK? They are doing the exact opposite of what everybody else is doing.

It appears they are attempting to bank on the idea of herd immunity by letting as many lower risk people get infected as possible until they can no longer pass on the virus to everybody else. Roughly 60-80% of the population would need to be infected for this to work. No idea how they plan on protecting those in a high risk category while everybody else is getting sick.

I can't imagine the ramifications if their assumptions turn out not to be true. If it works, though, it's genius.

It's true, although they seem to be backing away from this stance pretty quickly.

Say 60 percent of the population get the virus and we have a 2 or 3 percent death rate that's a hell of a lot of people to sacrifice if you are intentionally planning for people to get infected.

The Premier League were determined not to suspend the season even though the rest of the football and sporting world had done so. It wasn't until Arteta tested positive they were forced too.

Our professional basketball league is continuing to play games, although crowds are very small, unlike the Turkish league who attract large crowds are also insisting on playing on.

UK very reluctant to take drastic action compared to other countries. It's a tough one though, how long can you keep a country on lockdown?

[Ccwatercraft]

Amazon Prime is better, you don't have to go to the store and pick it up.

The delivery systems through amazon can scale and handle this. They are insanely agile.

Walmart.com might rely on shipping to the stores, don't do that. These stores are overwhelmed as it is, Amazon can handle more pickers/packer/delivery drivers pretty quickly. They've done it before in the holiday rush. Grocery are inefficient in fixing this, it's a constant sprint and they're right by people. It's a MESS.

walmart ships right to your door. and generally cheaper than amazon, but many many items out of stock on both sites.

Awesome! Thanks for helping out.

to elaborate, yes they also do ship to store, like other stores such as home depot. etc, but ship to home 2 day is available and I get many packages next day.

amazon, which is great, tends to ship faster but only for prime members, and tends to be more expensive than WM or ebay. I never order food items from ebay but I price compare for lots of other stuff which only takes a 30 seconds and 80% of the time WM and ebay are cheaper, just not as fast.

target, walgreens, etc, also have ship to home, I assume most big chains do now, I think Costco too.

edit: stores are maxed out, and some items cleaned out here in florida, I assume the rush will slow down next week a bit but here in FL the stores have been absolutely packed from open to close since Thursday.

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So, that's what, four players now? I'm sure there are going to be a lot more testing positive. Out of 450 NBA players, that is a little less than 1% (.88). If you extrapolated that over the entire United States it would be 2.87 million people infected. If just ten more NBA players tested positive it would extrapolate to 10 million people in the USA infected.

I know it doesn't necessarily work that way but I think it's probably pretty fair to assume it's something close to that. Although, NBA players travel much more than the average citizen, so maybe they're much more likely to have the virus? IDK... what does everyone think about this?

[rosenthall]

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So, that's what, four players now? I'm sure there are going to be a lot more testing positive. Out of 450 NBA players, that is a little less than 1% (.88). If you extrapolated that over the entire United States it would be 2.87 million people infected. If just ten more NBA players tested positive it would extrapolate to 10 million people in the USA infected.

I know it doesn't necessarily work that way but I think it's probably pretty fair to assume it's something close to that. Although, NBA players travel much more than the average citizen, so maybe they're much more likely to have the virus? IDK... what does everyone think about this?

I think your reasoning is about right, but this is an unusual circumstance where the rich and famous seem genuinely more likely to have the disease than average Joe's due to their travel schedule and constant public appearances.

Things have definitely spread out, but it does seem like the first wave of people who caught the thing are people who are jetsetters. I would suspect the population wide infection rate is lower than the NBA's, although certainly much higher than the stated numbers.

[Friend_Of_Haley]

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So, that's what, four players now? I'm sure there are going to be a lot more testing positive. Out of 450 NBA players, that is a little less than 1% (.88). If you extrapolated that over the entire United States it would be 2.87 million people infected. If just ten more NBA players tested positive it would extrapolate to 10 million people in the USA infected.

I know it doesn't necessarily work that way but I think it's probably pretty fair to assume it's something close to that. Although, NBA players travel much more than the average citizen, so maybe they're much more likely to have the virus? IDK... what does everyone think about this?

I think your reasoning is about right, but this is an unusual circumstance where the rich and famous seem genuinely more likely to have the disease than average Joe's due to their travel schedule and constant public appearances.

Things have definitely spread out, but it does seem like the first wave of people who caught the thing are people who are jetsetters. I would suspect the population wide infection rate is lower than the NBA's, although certainly much higher than the stated numbers.

Yea, that's seems like a pretty reasonable assumption. Pro teams are more like families than the average working relationship, even. Two guys on a team getting it would be almost like two family members getting it. You wouldn't try and extrapolate that to the general public.

[bullsnewdynasty]

If they tested all NBA players for influenza weekly, there would probably be more than 3 at any given time.

[Friend_Of_Haley]

Reports and pics from Ohare and DFW of huge delays at customs. Reportedly people waiting for 5 hours and just packed shoulder to shoulder. It's like a virus breeding ground.

[rapstarter]

Reports and pics from Ohare and DFW of huge delays at customs. Reportedly people waiting for 5 hours and just packed shoulder to shoulder. It's like a virus breeding ground.

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At least this will hit us first, and hopefully we'll be out of it first.

See you guys in a few months.

[Friend_Of_Haley]

Reports and pics from Ohare and DFW of huge delays at customs. Reportedly people waiting for 5 hours and just packed shoulder to shoulder. It's like a virus breeding ground.

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At least this will hit us first, and hopefully we'll be out of it first.

See you guys in a few months.

Honestly, it's not even going to be that simple. People landing in Chicago through customs are going to disperse through the Midwest or even the country.

[Chi town]

Reports and pics from Ohare and DFW of huge delays at customs. Reportedly people waiting for 5 hours and just packed shoulder to shoulder. It's like a virus breeding ground.

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At least this will hit us first, and hopefully we'll be out of it first.

See you guys in a few months.

That’s not good. That’s how the virus spreads exponentially.

[Dresden]

Reports and pics from Ohare and DFW of huge delays at customs. Reportedly people waiting for 5 hours and just packed shoulder to shoulder. It's like a virus breeding ground.

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At least this will hit us first, and hopefully we'll be out of it first.

See you guys in a few months.

That’s not good. That’s how the virus spreads exponentially.

So many obvious mistakes are being made. You would think someone with some brains would just put a halt to things like this and say "no, this isn't going to work, we have to do something differently" instead of letting it go on day after day. Just like with the shortage of tests. Someone should have seen that coming weeks ago and ramped things up. Of course, when the president of the country goes around shaking hands constantly, after knowingly having been in the same room with people who have tested positive, well, I guess stupidity just trickles down from the top.

[robert76]

Reports and pics from Ohare and DFW of huge delays at customs. Reportedly people waiting for 5 hours and just packed shoulder to shoulder. It's like a virus breeding ground.

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At least this will hit us first, and hopefully we'll be out of it first.

See you guys in a few months.

Honestly, it's not even going to be that simple. People landing in Chicago through customs are going to disperse through the Midwest or even the country.

I'm shocked as how people still are unprepared after learning so much about the virus. What are the authorities doing? Like Dresden said, you can't have huge expectations when the country's president doesn't take the simplest precautions to avoid spreading the disease.

[HomoSapien]

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