Official NBA COVID Protocol thread (please read the OP)

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Kareem Abdul-Jabbar rips LeBron James for his COVID-19 meme 

Post#581 » by Drygon » Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:08 pm

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LeBron James is not only one of the greatest basketball players ever, he’s committed to being a leader in the African American community in the fight against inequality. But his Thursday Instagram meme showing three cartoon Spider-Men pointing at each other—one labeled “covid,” one labeled “flu,” one labeled “cold”—with his message: “Help me out folks” was a blow to his worthy legacy. The meme’s implication is that LeBron doesn’t understand the difference among these three illnesses, even after all the information that’s been presented in the press. Well, since he asked, let me help him out by explaining the difference—and how knowing that difference might save lives, especially in the Black community.


First, let’s put his meme in context. In September, LeBron stated: “I don’t talk about other people and what they should do. We’re talking about individual bodies. We’re not talking about something political or racism or police brutality. I don’t think I personally should get involved in what other people do for their bodies and livelihoods ... I know what I did for me and my family... But as far as speaking for everybody and their individualities and things they want to do, that’s not my job.”

Here’s the first problem with that statement: With 106 million Instagram followers, making such a post is automatically politically impactful because he questions the validity of the efforts to get the country vaccinated. As is evident by some of the comments that cheer LeBron’s post, he’s given support to those not getting vaccinated, which makes the situation for all of worse by postponing our health and economic recovery. The CDC reports that those who are unvaccinated are 9 times more likely to be admitted to the hospital and 14 times more likely to die from COVID than those vaccinated. The number rises to 20 time more likely when compared to someone who’s gotten a booster shot. By posting the uninformed meme, LeBron has encouraged vaccine hesitancy which puts lives and livelihoods at risk.

Here’s the second problem with that statement: He says we’re not talking about racism, but we most definitely are. As of December 2020, about 97.9 out of every 100,000 African Americans had died from COVID-19, a third higher than that for Latinos (64.7 per 100,000), and more than double than that for whites (46.6 per 100,000) and Asians (40.4 per 100,000). According to an article on the U.S. National Library of Medicine site, “The overrepresentation of African Americans among confirmed COVID-19 cases and number of deaths underscores the fact that the coronavirus pandemic, far from being an equalizer, is amplifying or even worsening existing social inequalities tied to race, class, and access to the health care system.”


A year later, the communities of People of Color are still suffering at a much higher rate than white communities. In November 2021, the CDC stated, “It has highlighted that health equity is still not a reality as COVID-19 has unequally affected many racial and ethnic minority groups, putting them more at risk of getting sick and dying from COVID-19.” One study in Atlanta showed 79% of Blacks with COVID-19 were hospitalized versus 13% of whites. COVID-19 has resulted in a drop in life expectancy among whites of 1.2 years. Among the Black and Latinx communities it was more than 3 years.

For those confident that the Omicron variant may not be as harsh as previous variants, it’s important to realize that, while most might come out of it okay, they can still unwittingly infect others along the way—the elderly, people with compromised immune systems, people with respiratory problems—who could end up hospitalized or dead. Also, almost half of those who recover from initial COVID-19 illness have “long-haul COVID,” with persistent symptoms of brain fog, shortness of breath, fatigue, dizziness, and headaches.

For those pointing out that there are “breakthrough” cases in which the vaccinated contract COVID-19. Yes, but they also have lighter symptoms and are at a much less risk of dying than the unvaccinated. The crucial statistic here is this: 98-99% of Americans dying of COVID-19 are unvaccinated.


Vaccine hesitancy is higher in the Black community than in any other. While there are certainly justifiable historical reasons for Blacks to be skeptical of the health care system that has routinely marginalized, ignored, and even illegally experimented on them, that is not enough to justify compromising their health and even losing their lives during the current health crisis.

To directly address LeBron’s confusion, no one thinks colds and the flu aren’t serious. In the 2019-2020 flu season, 400,000 people were hospitalized and 22,000 people died. In 2020, 385,428 people died of COVID-19, while so far in 2021, 423,558 have died in the U.S., for a total of 808,986 deaths. Experts agree that COVID-19 is at least 10 times more lethal than the flu. As for the common cold, death is extremely rare.

However, LeBron, if you’re concerned about the flu, then help promote the flu vaccination. In the 2019-2020 flu season, only 51.8% in the U.S. were vaccinated, well below the 70% that is the target. Worse, the vaccination rate is 20% lower among Blacks than whites and as a result they have the highest hospitalization rate due to flu of any other group. This is due to vaccination hesitancy that your meme promotes.

One way to help the Black community to overcome their hesitancy and save lives is for prominent Black celebrities and influencers to continue to encourage everyone to get vaccinated and their boosters. Immunization, whether from vaccines or having had the disease, lessens over time and makes people vulnerable for reinfection.


While LeBron is a necessary and dynamic voice critical of police brutality against the Black community, he needs to be the same necessary and dynamic advocate with vaccines, which could save thousands of Black lives right now. The racism is just as real—and just as lethal—in both cases.



For context, here's the LeBron's COVID-19/flu/common cold meme Kareem talks about.

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Re: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar rips LeBron James for his COVID-19 meme 

Post#582 » by Drygon » Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:10 pm

Being retired from the league since 1989 won't stop Kareem from dunking on LeBron :)

The last paragraph from Kareem sums up his article perfectly.

"While LeBron is a necessary and dynamic voice critical of police brutality against the Black community, he needs to be the same necessary and dynamic advocate with vaccines, which could save thousands of Black lives right now. The racism is just as real—and just as lethal—in both cases."
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Re: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar rips LeBron James for his COVID-19 meme 

Post#583 » by Cartuse » Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:15 pm

Lol @ the attempt to mix it up with race and stuff, wtf
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Re: Official NBA COVID Protocol thread (please read the OP) 

Post#584 » by bisme37 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:30 pm

I moved the Bron/Kareem thing here since it's notable and at least nominally about the NBA. But debates about race are not appropriate for the GB. So probably just don't debate it. We really don't want to hand out strikes and lock this thread, which has been going pretty well I have to say.

If you're clamoring to debate the racial aspects brought up by Kareem you could take it to the Current Affairs board. Thanks all.
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Re: Official NBA COVID Protocol thread (please read the OP) 

Post#585 » by Richard4444 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:37 pm

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Re: Official NBA COVID Protocol thread (please read the OP) 

Post#586 » by Liam_Gallagher » Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:15 pm

Amazing how the virus can get past three vaccines but not an Old Navy mask.
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Post#587 » by basketballRob » Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:30 pm

Sothron wrote:Hawks now have THIRTEEN PLAYERS out. This is laughable. We literally have zero point guards or power forwards able to play and that includes the fake scrub players they signed.
On behalf of the Orlando Magic, I'd like to apologize. It was the Lakers that infected us.

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Re: Official NBA COVID Protocol thread (please read the OP) 

Post#588 » by kg01 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:43 pm

basketballRob wrote:
Sothron wrote:Hawks now have THIRTEEN PLAYERS out. This is laughable. We literally have zero point guards or power forwards able to play and that includes the fake scrub players they signed.
On behalf of the Orlando Magic, I'd like to apologize. It was the Lakers that infected us.

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You gonna apologize for trotting something called Hasanni Gravett (GA native) out there and beating us at home too? :-?
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Post#589 » by basketballRob » Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:11 pm

kg01 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
Sothron wrote:Hawks now have THIRTEEN PLAYERS out. This is laughable. We literally have zero point guards or power forwards able to play and that includes the fake scrub players they signed.
On behalf of the Orlando Magic, I'd like to apologize. It was the Lakers that infected us.

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You gonna apologize for trotting something called Hasanni Gravett (GA native) out there and beating us at home too? :-?
I'm apologizing to Atlanta because they came down with a bunch of cases after playing us.

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Re: Official NBA COVID Protocol thread (please read the OP) 

Post#590 » by kg01 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 10:11 pm

basketballRob wrote:
kg01 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:On behalf of the Orlando Magic, I'd like to apologize. It was the Lakers that infected us.

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You gonna apologize for trotting something called Hasanni Gravett (GA native) out there and beating us at home too? :-?
I'm apologizing to Atlanta because they came down with a bunch of cases after playing us.

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I know. Was just messing with you.
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Post#591 » by basketballRob » Mon Dec 27, 2021 10:21 pm

Maybe they should clean the balls in between possessions.


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Post#592 » by bisme37 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 10:59 pm

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Post#593 » by bisme37 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 10:59 pm

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Post#594 » by BigDan245 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:00 pm

at least most guys now will only miss a week
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Post#595 » by Catchall » Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:33 pm

If teams are missing key players during the playoffs due to covid, then this season will be rendered all but meaningless.
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Post#596 » by xdrta+ » Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:46 pm

Catchall wrote:If teams are missing key players during the playoffs due to covid, then this season will be rendered all but meaningless.


Would it be different than teams missing key players due to injuries?
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Post#597 » by Catchall » Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:04 am

xdrta+ wrote:
Catchall wrote:If teams are missing key players during the playoffs due to covid, then this season will be rendered all but meaningless.


Would it be different than teams missing key players due to injuries?


Yes, because the virus is contagious and affecting dozens of players, while injuries are not.
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Post#598 » by xdrta+ » Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:22 am

Catchall wrote:
xdrta+ wrote:
Catchall wrote:If teams are missing key players during the playoffs due to covid, then this season will be rendered all but meaningless.


Would it be different than teams missing key players due to injuries?


Yes, because the virus is contagious and affecting dozens of players, while injuries are not.


Oh, I thought you were talking about missing key players during the playoffs. If you miss key players due to injury or miss them due to virus, seems like the same result. Sometimes playoffs are decided by missing key players.
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Post#599 » by BigDan245 » Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:31 am

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I wonder even after Ayton tested positive if they caught Phoenix near the end of their outbreak...Remember before yesterday teams didn't have to get tested unless somebody was symptomatic and tested positive.
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Post#600 » by TheLand13 » Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:21 am

Liam_Gallagher wrote:Amazing how the virus can get past three vaccines but not an Old Navy mask.

Can we not have incredibly dumb posts like this?

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