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Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 2 - Can we get to first place?

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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 2 - Can we get to first place? 

Post#581 » by greg4012 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:49 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:I’m fine with sending any picks that will improve the team by a decent margin. Even fine with trading someone to OKC to unlock more picks. Go all in for a championship. We’ll retool in a few years around Bam and Mitchell.

Let's not act like Mitchell is a sure thing.


Honestly, with Bam's popularity among players in the league and the Heat's approach to making big moves, I do think a retool bringing in a young-ish star in a few years is extremely likely
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Post#582 » by greg4012 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:54 pm

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somerandomdude wrote:Spo in a 3-way tie for 5th best

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If Butler did not miss bunnies at the rim, he might be higher on the list! Still, wild to see Kidd at the top, but having a talent like Luka who can make shots or plays for others helps in this regard I guess.


Kidd always pops before he fizzles. He has a 2-3 year expiration date everywhere he goes. Kinda like Thibs in that way
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Post#583 » by carnageta » Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:18 pm

What happened with Lowry? At work so I can't listen to the podcast :)
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Post#584 » by twix2500 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:29 pm

carnageta wrote:What happened with Lowry? At work so I can't listen to the podcast :)


Dealing with some family issues. He will return when that is settled.
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Post#585 » by oreon » Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:11 pm

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its between Herro & Lowry to represent in the all star game.
Leaning towards Herro.
Not enough games for Jimmy.


We're gonna get 2 players. I think Butler makes it as a starter to replace KD and Herro will make it in as reserves. It should be Lowry and Herro but Butler will get the spot cuz of star power.
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Post#586 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:56 pm

somerandomdude wrote:Spo views Bam as a guy who gets Duncan Robinson open and in rhythm.

If this wins us a championship, great, I'm all for it.

If not, this is probably the most absurd thing that's ever happened in the NBA. Just imagine telling someone that you're going to build around Duncan Robinson.

“You can’t quantify [Adebayo’s impact]. You see the comfort level of Duncan skyrocket because you know, Bam knows how to get him open. The synergy between the two of them, they’re just so connected. Sometimes, there’s just an energy to that.”

If an impact big becomes available who stretches the floor then Duncan has to go. Riley once traded the franchise leading three point shooter at the time in Glen Rice for Zo and i’m damn sure he’ll do it again trading Duncan for a big. Riley has an affinity for Tyler Herro and eventually the starting spot has to open up for him. This is the last year Tyler will come off the bench before you risk him making some noise with his contract coming up. The kid is a starter in this league no matter how well anyone thinks he does coming off the bench over starting. Honestly think it’s a dumb small sample size penalizing him from his struggles from last year or what ever small picture you have seen this year. He’s the future of this team at the 2 spot not Duncan Robinson. And i agree it is truly absurd relying on an offense that takes your multifaceted big away from the basket handing off to Duncan hoping he never goes cold.
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Post#587 » by Shewasfly » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:11 pm

Glad people are still keeping the bigger picture in mind regarding trading Duncan, even though he's been on fire lately and is starting to look like the Duncan of old.

I don't think we should trade him for any ole body. But Wood, Turner, and other shooting bigs...he should still be on the lbock for them. Sorry not sorry.

There are some people who have been mentioned that I don't see the point in trading Duncan for for sure. For instance I know a lot of people have mentioned Harrison Barnes and I know he's a big name but I honestly would not do that trade unless it included someone else like Hield. Which the Kings would never do. Maybe I'm biased because of the meltdown Barnes had in the finals against the Cavs that cost the Warriors the chip, but I don't think he's dependable. He's not the guy people think he is.
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Post#588 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:21 pm

Shewasfly wrote:Glad people are still keeping the bigger picture in mind regarding trading Duncan, even though he's been on fire lately and is starting to look like the Duncan of old.

I don't think we should trade him for any ole body. But Wood, Turner, and other shooting bigs...he should still be on the lbock for them. Sorry not sorry.

There are some people who have been mentioned that I don't see the point in trading Duncan for for sure. For instance I know a lot of people have mentioned Harrison Barnes and I know he's a big name but I honestly would not do that trade unless it included someone else like Hield. Which the Kings would never do. Maybe I'm biased because of the meltdown Barnes had in the finals against the Cavs that cost the Warriors the chip, but I don't think he's dependable. He's not the guy people think he is.

Barnes is not realistic financially anyways. Makes just a tad over 20 million and Duncan makes 15.6. Any trade that happens needs to keep us under the tax. Wood has the most ideal contract to trade for.
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Post#589 » by AirP. » Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:44 pm

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Shewasfly wrote:Glad people are still keeping the bigger picture in mind regarding trading Duncan, even though he's been on fire lately and is starting to look like the Duncan of old.

I don't think we should trade him for any ole body. But Wood, Turner, and other shooting bigs...he should still be on the lbock for them. Sorry not sorry.

There are some people who have been mentioned that I don't see the point in trading Duncan for for sure. For instance I know a lot of people have mentioned Harrison Barnes and I know he's a big name but I honestly would not do that trade unless it included someone else like Hield. Which the Kings would never do. Maybe I'm biased because of the meltdown Barnes had in the finals against the Cavs that cost the Warriors the chip, but I don't think he's dependable. He's not the guy people think he is.

Barnes is not realistic financially anyways. Makes just a tad over 20 million and Duncan makes 15.6. Any trade that happens needs to keep us under the tax. Wood has the most ideal contract to trade for.

I have a feeling you could safely add a couple of contracts to him like KZ and Morris so it would be close, it could be widen more if needed from both sides.

I don't care too much about what Robinson is doing currently, I'd move him for an upgrade since I believe Robinson's production could be mostly duplicated by Strus in his role. Toss in Oladipo coming back and someone is getting squeezed more then it's currently happening, might as well try to strengthen the ROTATION instead of just shelfing some quality.
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Post#590 » by RexBoyWonder » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:20 pm

The more I think about it, the More sense i see in "gambling' on a J.Grant or C.Wood.

I'ts ceiling raiser move for the teamif it pans out.

I'm not sure we have true championship path if we keep Duncan and rely on Tucker\Martin duo as the only non-Bam "bigs" for 4 straight playoffs series.
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Post#591 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:59 pm

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Post#592 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:00 am

No to grant. He wants a 4/100 extension and wants to be the primary focal point. He has like 2 options other than Detroit if that’s what he wants lol
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Post#593 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:01 am

Pharenheit wrote:
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Pass. While much more polished offensively than Bam, the amount you lose defensively and toughness with KAT makes the juice not worth the squeeze.

If we don’t win a chip this year I say make an offer for Donovan Mitchell that includes Bam maybe going to a third team since they already have Gobert. Maybe Dwyane Wade will do his ole buddies in Miami a solid


Mitchell wants to be here with Bam lol you don’t do that


Won’t matter either way he’s locked in long-term with Utah. It would take sending Bam via trade to pry him from Utah if they were to ever consider trading him. It’s a pipe dream but perhaps the situation over there is even more toxic than what is already being let on


Herro picks and whatever salary needed could get it done. I’m not trading Bam for Mitchell and I doubt the Heat would either
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Post#594 » by wade44 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:38 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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Mitchell wants to be here with Bam lol you don’t do that


Won’t matter either way he’s locked in long-term with Utah. It would take sending Bam via trade to pry him from Utah if they were to ever consider trading him. It’s a pipe dream but perhaps the situation over there is even more toxic than what is already being let on


Herro picks and whatever salary needed could get it done. I’m not trading Bam for Mitchell and I doubt the Heat would either


Mitchell is someone you can build a championship team around whereas Bam is more of an ancillary piece. That trade is almost a no brainer imo. Unless of course Spo wisens up and begins to use him in the PF Draymond role like many Heat fans have been clamoring for. But until then he looks like an undersized center with offensive limitations who tends to get beat on matchups with bigger, taller centers
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Post#595 » by Wiltside » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:53 am

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He ain’t coming here. Would be weird if Kyle had some family issues in Philly though and asked to be dealt there. Simmons to Miami confirmed :laugh:
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Post#596 » by gom » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:58 am

Pharenheit wrote:
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Won’t matter either way he’s locked in long-term with Utah. It would take sending Bam via trade to pry him from Utah if they were to ever consider trading him. It’s a pipe dream but perhaps the situation over there is even more toxic than what is already being let on


Herro picks and whatever salary needed could get it done. I’m not trading Bam for Mitchell and I doubt the Heat would either


Mitchell is someone you can build a championship team around whereas Bam is more of an ancillary piece. That trade is almost a no brainer imo. Unless of course Spo wisens up and begins to use him in the PF Draymond role like many Heat fans have been clamoring for. But until then he looks like an undersized center with offensive limitations who tends to get beat on matchups with bigger, taller centers


I want Bam and Mitchell together. That duo is unbeatable.
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Post#597 » by wade44 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:27 am

gom wrote:
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Herro picks and whatever salary needed could get it done. I’m not trading Bam for Mitchell and I doubt the Heat would either


Mitchell is someone you can build a championship team around whereas Bam is more of an ancillary piece. That trade is almost a no brainer imo. Unless of course Spo wisens up and begins to use him in the PF Draymond role like many Heat fans have been clamoring for. But until then he looks like an undersized center with offensive limitations who tends to get beat on matchups with bigger, taller centers


I want Bam and Mitchell together. That duo is unbeatable.


Agreed That would be the best case scenario. Just have a hard time envisioning that until he becomes a free agent in the distant future.
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Post#598 » by puppa bear » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:31 am

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He ain’t coming here. Would be weird if Kyle had some family issues in Philly though and asked to be dealt there. Simmons to Miami confirmed :laugh:

It’s very possible, and with family you have to do what is right for you. Hopefully, it all gets sorted and Kyle can go back to playing soon. If not, and he has to be with family then

His life before the NBA was in Philly, so it’s possible that a return home may be the thing he and his family needs. If it is, then Heat will do the right thing for him & find a way to still land on their feet with it.
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Post#599 » by gom » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:31 am

Pharenheit wrote:
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Mitchell is someone you can build a championship team around whereas Bam is more of an ancillary piece. That trade is almost a no brainer imo. Unless of course Spo wisens up and begins to use him in the PF Draymond role like many Heat fans have been clamoring for. But until then he looks like an undersized center with offensive limitations who tends to get beat on matchups with bigger, taller centers


I want Bam and Mitchell together. That duo is unbeatable.


Agreed That would be the best case scenario. Just have a hard time envisioning that until he becomes a free agent in the distant future.


I'm thinking after Butler and if he's the guy, I cannot imagine Miami not getting him. I ilke SGA too, but Donovan Mitchell fits like a glove.
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Post#600 » by oreon » Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:51 am

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