FIBA World Cup 2023 (FIRST thread)

lambchop · Post #581 » by **lambchop** » Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:30 am

I was surprised to see Klavzar in this game. Imo he's more of an undersized SG than a PG. Struggles with decision making and ball handling, but has a nice scoring package. Wasn't expecting Djordjevic to be coaching China either.

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UcanUwill · Post #582 » by **UcanUwill** » Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:22 am

madskillz8 wrote:
Dirk wrote:Is the thread title from The Onion?

He has Chinese roots.

https://closeup360.com/global/kyle-anderson-grizzlies-nba-family-china/

You can tell based on how incredibly he blends in here.

jk31 · Post #583 » by **jk31** » Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:59 am

lambchop wrote:It's crazy how Dirk was surrounded by scrubs and now the team can't even get two NBA role players (kleber and Hartenstein) to join the team due to personal feuds, egos, lack of interest etc.

and you know what is even more crazy? that even without kleber and hartenstein, we are still able to bring two NBA players at the frontcourt with Mo Wagner and Daniel Theis.

-Luke- · Post #584 » by **-Luke-** » Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:11 pm

jk31 wrote:
lambchop wrote:It's crazy how Dirk was surrounded by scrubs and now the team can't even get two NBA role players (kleber and Hartenstein) to join the team due to personal feuds, egos, lack of interest etc.

and you know what is even more crazy? that even without kleber and hartenstein, we are still able to bring two NBA players at the frontcourt with Mo Wagner and Daniel Theis.

Plus Voigtmann who could have been an NBA rotation player. In the Dirk era it was basically Femerling and naturalized Kaman for one summer or so. Too bad the best German players always come along when the other ones retire. A Dirk, Schrempf, Franz frontcourt would have been nice.

UcanUwill · Post #585 » by **UcanUwill** » Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:16 pm

-Luke- wrote:
jk31 wrote:
lambchop wrote:It's crazy how Dirk was surrounded by scrubs and now the team can't even get two NBA role players (kleber and Hartenstein) to join the team due to personal feuds, egos, lack of interest etc.

and you know what is even more crazy? that even without kleber and hartenstein, we are still able to bring two NBA players at the frontcourt with Mo Wagner and Daniel Theis.

Plus Voigtmann who could have been an NBA rotation player. In the Dirk era it was basically Femerling and naturalized Kaman for one summer or so. Too bad the best German players always come along when the other ones retire. A Dirk, Schrempf, Franz frontcourt would have been nice.

When you compare current Germany team to 2005ish without Dirk, night and day improvement.

-Luke- · Post #586 » by **-Luke-** » Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:33 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
-Luke- wrote:
jk31 wrote:
and you know what is even more crazy? that even without kleber and hartenstein, we are still able to bring two NBA players at the frontcourt with Mo Wagner and Daniel Theis.

Plus Voigtmann who could have been an NBA rotation player. In the Dirk era it was basically Femerling and naturalized Kaman for one summer or so. Too bad the best German players always come along when the other ones retire. A Dirk, Schrempf, Franz frontcourt would have been nice.

When you compare current Germany team to 2005ish without Dirk, night and day improvement.

True, not even Okulaja (RIP) was on that team. Dirk was an awesome FIBA player, carrying those teams to medals at the WC and EC.

Mickey8 · Post #587 » by **Mickey8** » Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:28 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
madskillz8 wrote:
Dirk wrote:Is the thread title from The Onion?

He has Chinese roots.

https://closeup360.com/global/kyle-anderson-grizzlies-nba-family-china/

You can tell based on how incredibly he blends in here.

He's more patriotic than Jokic ever will be

durden_tyler · Post #588 » by **durden_tyler** » Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:33 pm

Mickey8 wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
madskillz8 wrote:
He has Chinese roots.

https://closeup360.com/global/kyle-anderson-grizzlies-nba-family-china/

You can tell based on how incredibly he blends in here.

He's more patriotic than Jokic ever will be

He’s just more loyal to Denver than Serbia, so it’s understandable. LOL

Post #589 » by **Klomp** » Thu Jul 27, 2023 9:55 pm

durden_tyler wrote:Great to see the American rejects (KAT, sort of, doesn't fit what they want to do in Team USA, but perhaps the first star to choose another flag?) play for another country they are affiliated with. Hope to see more of these over the next few years simply for a higher competitive level of the "other" countries. If you are not sure to be tapped by the American NT (What? Be Top 30 in that nation? A tough ask) it's best to play up that pride factor that you can beat Team USA even if you're just playing for a ragtag team like the Dominican Republic. That's more impressive for me that joining "Super (US) Team" and your brand and play might actually improve more.

Educate yourself.

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durden_tyler · Post #590 » by **durden_tyler** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:45 am

Klomp wrote:
durden_tyler wrote:Great to see the American rejects (KAT, sort of, doesn't fit what they want to do in Team USA, but perhaps the first star to choose another flag?) play for another country they are affiliated with. Hope to see more of these over the next few years simply for a higher competitive level of the "other" countries. If you are not sure to be tapped by the American NT (What? Be Top 30 in that nation? A tough ask) it's best to play up that pride factor that you can beat Team USA even if you're just playing for a ragtag team like the Dominican Republic. That's more impressive for me that joining "Super (US) Team" and your brand and play might actually improve more.

Educate yourself.

Watch on YouTube

Didn't know that, thank you.

So which current stars can make that jump-- from US to another country?

Reading a bunch about Embiid, still able to choose between France and US (and another country?)

Who else?

donkki · Post #591 » by **donkki** » Tue Aug 1, 2023 5:41 pm

Granted it was not the toughest of opponents, but France certainly looked ready in a 93-36 trashing of Tunisia yesterday.

UcanUwill · Post #592 » by **UcanUwill** » Tue Aug 1, 2023 8:06 pm

donkki wrote:Granted it was not the toughest of opponents, but France certainly looked ready in a 93-36 trashing of Tunisia yesterday.

Rokas Jokubaitis looked fantastic in todays win against Georgia.

durden_tyler wrote:
Didn't know that, thank you.

So which current stars can make that jump-- from US to another country?

Reading a bunch about Embiid, still able to choose between France and US (and another country?)

Who else?

Bruh, a Cameroonian basketball superstar could play for US, France, and some another country, I wonder which country it is :banghead:

durden_tyler · Post #593 » by **durden_tyler** » Wed Aug 2, 2023 2:34 am

Not World Cup-related but Olympic qualifying roster update for Bahamas:

Three NBA players (Deandre Ayton, Buddy Hield, and Kai Jones) are set to join the squad, the Bahamas basketball federation announced.

https://basketnews.com/news-192761-deandre-ayton-spearheads-bahamas-roster-for-olympic-qualifiers.html

Great to see more and more players touching base with their roots and well improve these previously ran-on basketball countries.

-Luke- · Post #594 » by **-Luke-** » Wed Aug 2, 2023 6:55 am

Nick Weiler-Babb will not play for Germany due to injury. Jonas Mattisseck of Alba Berlin replaces him in the preliminary roster. Weiler-Babb started at the 2 in the EuroBasket last summer.

lambchop · Post #595 » by **lambchop** » Wed Aug 2, 2023 8:28 am

Kyle Anderson getting some work in with the team.

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Australian players, like Giddey, Delly, Daniels, in scrimmages.

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jezzerinho · Post #596 » by **jezzerinho** » Wed Aug 2, 2023 8:47 am

jk31 wrote:
lambchop wrote:It's crazy how Dirk was surrounded by scrubs and now the team can't even get two NBA role players (kleber and Hartenstein) to join the team due to personal feuds, egos, lack of interest etc.

and you know what is even more crazy? that even without kleber and hartenstein, we are still able to bring two NBA players at the frontcourt with Mo Wagner and Daniel Theis.

Feel like i read somewhere that Hartenstein was an absolutely unbearable piece of work to be in a team with.

Do i remember right? What's the deal there?

Pachinko_ · Post #597 » by **Pachinko_** » Wed Aug 2, 2023 9:57 am

Germany could be a basketball giant if the game was even a bit more popular
Sadly though:

bravor · Post #598 » by **bravor** » Wed Aug 2, 2023 10:50 am

At least, it's above curling (knowing they have a good team generally for both women & men, it's like half of a joke ^ ^).

wtf is track and field ? Athletics ?

Swuul · Post #599 » by **Swuul** » Wed Aug 2, 2023 11:39 am

bravor wrote:At least, it's above curling (knowing they have a good team generally for both women & men, it's like half of a joke ^ ^).

wtf is track and field ? Athletics ?

"Track and Field" is one of the six parts (disciplines) of Athletics, spesifically those which are competed on the track and field while the other disciplines are competed outside of track and field. Athletics include in addition to "Track and Field" also "Road Running", "Race Walking", "Cross Country Running", "Mountain Running", and "Trail running".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_of_athletics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Track_and_field

jk31 · Post #600 » by **jk31** » Wed Aug 2, 2023 12:02 pm

Pachinko_ wrote:Germany could be a basketball giant if the game was even a bit more popular
Sadly though:

Basketball is even behind something here which I do not even know what it is. What the hell is Tobogganing? I have never heard of that here in germany.

But yeah, this graph shows exactly the state here in germany. You have football, football, football, football and football. And after that football. And a little while later all the rest follows.