WCQF: P1 | (4) OKC Thunder vs Utah Jazz (5) | Utah wins 4-2

[Luigi]

Watch his trailing leg. That was a foul, there was no way for George to go into a shooting motion because Gobert's body was moving through his space, regardless of if he stepped forward or not.

I think it's probably a foul on the hip, but I'm not seeing Gobert's left leg make any contact (especially if you check the side view). How does the space thing work?

http://videorulebook.nba.com/archive/defensive-foul-defender-makes-illegal-contact-with-jump-shooter/

Basically, if you move through space that a shooter is 'entitled to' and make contact it's a foul. Rudy makes contact on the hip, but his leg is also in a position that would prevent George from landing regardless of if he had stepped forward or not.

Ah, yes. Makes sense. I think they probably didn't apply that, seeing Rudy go for the clear out to George's side. I guess if you think George initiated the contact... ah, it's probably a foul.

[LEO MESSI]

Seriously as a Jazz fan, the constant hate of Westbrook is getting tiring. The guy had another epic night and the other two so called stars were a no-show.

Epic night?
That is a way to look at, i guess.

[Bruteque]

As a Jazz fan I can't justify that non call. Argue semantics all you want but at the end of the day, they call that a foul 99/100 times.

All you can ask from refs is consistency. Some calls that are not right are tolerated because they are at least consistently wrong, ie tolerating 4-5 steps on a fast break, or weak double-T's to calm guys down.

As another poster mentioned, don't wait till the dying moments of a playoff close out game to start enforcing that lean-in rule.

Anyways I'd like to think the Jazz would have closed it out regardless of that. Not the prettiest series but fascinating to watch 2 very different squads go at each other. Hope OKC figure themselves out, ballhog or not Russ is unstoppable at times, love his passion and guts.

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Can anyone justify PG0 having all of 5 points tonight?

In OKC, PG is a 3-and-D guy, an elite one, of course, the rich man's Robert Covington, if you will.

Elite 3-and-D guys can get red hot and win you one all but single-handedly sometimes, but even elite ones take what they get and have 5-point games from time to time.

[Soul Patch]

**** you

Love you?

no foh

Dude what's foh stand for?






Both teams played hard. I like the win, I don't like the no calls all that much but that'll change going against Harden and Paul next series I reckon.

[Patches Perry]

The worst thing about Westbrook losing and terrible game-changing no-calls is that nobody is talking about Donovan Mitchell's epic 3rd quarter and series as a whole.

Mitchell is Rookie of the Year in my book. That kid can flat out score.

[LookToShoot]

Refs gave the series to the Jazz.

[Jkam31]

As a Jazz fan, I am embarrassed that the Utah crowd chanted "Westbrook Sucks" at one point in this series.

Our crowd has a rep for being awesome in support, but in all honesty, they are a bunch of dicks in a bag. VERY disappointed in our fans.


Having said that, I'm really disappointed in Russ that he couldn't shake hands with Mitchell and Gobert and Ingles. Dude ran for the exit without being a man.

Disgraceful.

The chanting was inappropriate, but they were amped up and into the series. I won't draw too much from that.
Regarding the lack of handshaking from Russell: He pretty much always does that when eliminated in the postseason. He did it against Golden state in 2016. He even did it against Houston last year and he is good friends with Harden. Its just what he does for better or for worse.

What’s people obsession with shaking hands leave that **** for the middle school kids. He don’t wanna shake hands than don’t do it who cares


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[lebron stopper]

The worst thing about Westbrook losing and terrible game-changing no-calls is that nobody is talking about Donovan Mitchell's epic 3rd quarter and series as a whole.

Mitchell is Rookie of the Year in my book. That kid can flat out score.

Donovan Mitchell really took PG0 to the cleaners tonight. 38 points for Mitchell vs 5 points for PG0

[Luigi]

The worst thing about Westbrook losing and terrible game-changing no-calls is that nobody is talking about Donovan Mitchell's epic 3rd quarter and series as a whole.

Mitchell is Rookie of the Year in my book. That kid can flat out score.

When he went 8 for 8 with insane spin moves and crosses in the lane, I couldn't contain myself. The kid went super nova. Some of the best playoff basketball I have ever seen.

[Patches Perry]

The worst thing about Westbrook losing and terrible game-changing no-calls is that nobody is talking about Donovan Mitchell's epic 3rd quarter and series as a whole.

Mitchell is Rookie of the Year in my book. That kid can flat out score.

Donovan Mitchell really took PG0 to the cleaners tonight. 38 points for Mitchell vs 5 points for PG0

I was very disappointed in PG. Westbrook was looking for him, and PG kept dribbling a few times and passing back. PG was not aggressive at all.

[TO11]

Westbrook played his guts out, but I thought this was very interesting; Mitchell had 38 points, and Westbrook had 46, but Mitchell had 17 less FG attempts than Westbrook...that's astonishing.

[Luigi]

Refs gave the series to the Jazz.

That was a bad call at the end. But Rudy sat last game due to some bad calls, that swung the game just as badly. Probably more.

[Jazztop]

Seriously as a Jazz fan, the constant hate of Westbrook is getting tiring. The guy had another epic night and the other two so called stars were a no-show.

I don't hate his performance. I hate his antics. His game 4 garbage soured me on him for a lifetime.

The Gobert thing? C’mon dude - it’s playoff ball and heated confrontations are all a part of it.

I hate how a fan base feels compelled to hate on great players from other teams. I mean some ribbing is fine but it seems to have gone to another level with Westbrook. And it’s not just the fans, media commentators like Cowherd are even worse. I feel like it’s becone a dark component of our game. Or maybe it was always there? Not sure, but I don’t like it.

I’d rather talk about the awesome game our rookie and budding superstar had and how the reigning MVP tried to dig super deep to do all he could to stop it but just fell short. What a great story that is but we’ve got idiot fans in the NBA (not Jazz but every team) that looks to hate on superstar players especially when they have that fearless, independent spirit like WB.

[Patches Perry]

The worst thing about Westbrook losing and terrible game-changing no-calls is that nobody is talking about Donovan Mitchell's epic 3rd quarter and series as a whole.

Mitchell is Rookie of the Year in my book. That kid can flat out score.

When he went 8 for 8 with insane spin moves and crosses in the lane, I couldn't contain myself. The kid went super nova. Some of the best playoff basketball I have ever seen.

That kind of finishing ability can't be taught. Mitchell is special special special.

[jazzfan1971]

The worst thing about Westbrook losing and terrible game-changing no-calls is that nobody is talking about Donovan Mitchell's epic 3rd quarter and series as a whole.

Mitchell is Rookie of the Year in my book. That kid can flat out score.

When he went 8 for 8 with insane spin moves and crosses in the lane, I couldn't contain myself. The kid went super nova. Some of the best playoff basketball I have ever seen.

Some legit beautiful plays in there, no doubt.

[Soul Patch]

please explain again. i don't understand.

Naw you should go to sleep like u did in your other posts it’s probably past ur bed time anyways..

Don’t quote me, it’s over son

i am embarrassed you said son. how's your flip phone?

Whoa whoa whoa. When did it stop being cool to say son?

[Jkam31]

Wait there’s people in here questioning if that’s a foul when it’s called all the time


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[ISayshowmee]

PG13 initiated the contact. It is also true that refs blow the whistle on this....but all along the refs should have been calling the foul on the offensive player.

But...PG13....why not just shoot the damn ball instead of asking the refs to blow the whistle ?

[Luigi]

Westbrook played his guts out, but I thought this was very interesting; Mitchell had 38 points, and Westbrook had 46, but Mitchell had 17 less FG attempts than Westbrook...that's astonishing.

Russ was incredible. He kept them alive through the Mitchell rampage. It's just that when Westbrook went cold, he had nobody else to help him out. He was forced to keep going with bad shots when he was cold. I don't put that on him entirely. He does need to learn how to keep things going when his 3 ball stops falling and he can't get in the lane. Transition buckets help. He got a few, but then went back to the long ball.

What he really needs is a post up center to go to in that situation. They did go to Adams in the post once, but it didn't work out. Any offensive set besides iso would save him in those situations.

[Nate505]

Seriously as a Jazz fan, the constant hate of Westbrook is getting tiring. The guy had another epic night and the other two so called stars were a no-show.

I don't hate his performance. I hate his antics. His game 4 garbage soured me on him for a lifetime.

The Gobert thing? C’mon dude - it’s playoff ball and heated confrontations are all a part of it.

I hate how a fan base feels compelled to hate on great players from other teams. I mean some ribbing is fine but it seems to have gone to another level with Westbrook. And it’s not just the fans, media commentators like Cowherd are even worse. I feel like it’s becone a dark component of our game. Or maybe it was always there? Not sure, but I don’t like it.

I’d rather talk about the awesome game our rookie and budding superstar had and how the reigning MVP tried to dig super deep to do all he could to stop it but just fell short. What a great story that is but we’ve got idiot fans in the NBA (not Jazz but every team) that looks to hate on superstar players especially when they have that fearless, independent spirit like WB.

It wasn't just that. He tried to start crap with half the team in that game.