ATL - Oladipo is Really Good (and Bledsoe dominant again)

[Jez2983]

I'm assuming that Bogut deal is pretty incentive laden, otherwise he got a pretty big deal considering his injury history.

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I think that all seems pretty reasonable. I would think Bogut actually staying on the floor for 65 games pushes him close to most of those categories.

Go look at who would replace him if they didn't bank on him.

We used to say that about Michael Redd also.....

Really Press? Baiting quite hard in this thread, and probably specifically Paul.

[Baddy Chuck]

Terry Stotts confirmed on Thursday that Joel Freeland has gained the Portland Trail Blazers' backup center position, supplanting Meyers Leonard.

That Leonard pick is looking more and more atrocious as time goes on. Wasn't an abundance of talent in that draft, but Joel freakin Freeland? Seriously Meyers Leonard? Did you just give up?

[bizarro]

I would still take Marshall. No space for him, though.

In a rebuild world of some of our imaginings, we'd have space on our roster for the Kendall Marshall's of this world. I like what Philly is doing right now. I like what Phoenix is up to. I like what Orlando has been up to (though this talk of Harkless and/or Nicholson starting over Tobias is catching me off guard). And, I'm starting to get interested in what may go down in Denver.

Regardless, we're stuck offering 2 yr guaranteed contracts to giant European lumberjacks.

[bizarro]

Terry Stotts confirmed on Thursday that Joel Freeland has gained the Portland Trail Blazers' backup center position, supplanting Meyers Leonard.

That Leonard pick is looking more and more atrocious as time goes on. Wasn't an abundance of talent in that draft, but Joel freakin Freeland? Seriously Meyers Leonard? Did you just give up?

It's pretty perplexing. That being said, I still scratch my head at Drummond going at 9. I mean, really? He is a complete beast out there. 9? Really? And wasn't there speculation we could have gotten to 7 w/ Golden State? Or am I mistaken?

[KidA24]

Terry Stotts confirmed on Thursday that Joel Freeland has gained the Portland Trail Blazers' backup center position, supplanting Meyers Leonard.

That Leonard pick is looking more and more atrocious as time goes on. Wasn't an abundance of talent in that draft, but Joel freakin Freeland? Seriously Meyers Leonard? Did you just give up?

Did you ever see him play at Illinois? The guy gave up every time he stepped on the court. He had the size and skill to be a 20/10 guy, but just didn't care enough to try to do anything.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Kendall Marshall is getting cut? He didn't look good last year but I wouldn't mind taking a chance on him.

He can't defend or shoot. Not a good combo. He got beat out by ish smith and Christmas this preseason and was gonna get cut. The best thing he did for the phx franchise is help get their incompetent gm fired.

[El Duderino]

GS is banking quite a ton on one of the most injured big men on this decade to be a contender, we'll see if it works.

I hope he stays healthy to be honest, I always really liked the guy. But I am glad we aren't the ones who gave him that contract.

That pretty much sums up how i feel

[El Duderino]

I really should bet against GS this year. They seem to be the classic: "Get further than expected in Playoffs Due to Favorable 1st Round Opponent then have Overhyped Expectations Next Year Team"

I think they'll be quite good if Curry can avoid another serious ankle sprain and Bogut can play at least 65 games or so, along with being healthy once the playoffs starts. Two fairly big questions though.

[Baddy Chuck]

[TroyD92]

"Did I just get raped by Worldpeace?"

[MikeIsGood]

I'm assuming that Bogut deal is pretty incentive laden, otherwise he got a pretty big deal considering his injury history.

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This strikes me as pretty funny. All NBA! DPOY! Or, you know, just stay on the court for 65 games.

[paul]

Interesting, GS should have been the team dealing with Washington to dump Lee.

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[Baddy Chuck]

I'll just say this, I don't think there's any way Bogut plays 65 games in all three of those seasons.

[Soca]

Go look at who would replace him if they didn't bank on him.

We used to say that about Michael Redd also.....

Sg's are a lot easier to find than quality centers.

[El Duderino]

"Did I just get raped by Worldpeace?"

Nope, just teabagged

[jr lucosa]

I like the trade. Gortat helps the Wiz, Shannon Brown can probably provide some offense off the bench... Kendall Marshall is downright terrible but they can cut him, and the Suns get an expiring and 1st rounder. Like it for both sides.

ETA - I see they will waive Brown too, probably for the best

Bogut extension, there's no question he's worth the money if he can stay healthy, story of his career.

[SupremeHustle]

Kendall Marshall is getting cut? He didn't look good last year but I wouldn't mind taking a chance on him.

He can't defend or shoot. Not a good combo. He got beat out by ish smith and Christmas this preseason and was gonna get cut. The best thing he did for the phx franchise is help get their incompetent gm fired.

This. Was not/am not a Marshall fan. I thought he'd stick around four at least four years, though.

[Chapter29]

So for Bogut they effectively have a 12-14M per year contract depending on incentives.

That's a big yearly number. A 12M dollar risk. Not sure if I am the Bucks if I do that deal.

Obviously he is probably worth the 14M if fully healthy, but I am not sure he can be fully healthy for one, his elbow for example...well and he's made of glass.

[AussieBuck]

I'll just say this, I don't think there's any way Bogut plays 65 games in all three of those seasons.

All three? **** no.

[paulpressey25]

From what I read last night, it sounds like his base the next four years will be:

$14, $14, $12, $10 (although I saw one guy say $13, $12, $11 for the ext)

But then he'd get that extra $2 million a year in any extension season where he hits one of those objectives, including any season where he plays the 65 games.

Since Golden State blew that money on Iggy, they are going for it now. All in. So if they felt to keep Bogut happy this year, they had to pay him, that was their decision. He was getting a bit emo a few weeks back about the Warriors trying to trade for Dwight over the summer.

I'm not really sure which direction would have been better. To keep the pressure on Bogut to perform this year to earn a big contract next summer or to make Bogut relaxed and happy with a contract now. GSW chose the latter. While I wouldn't have done it, I do wish the Bucks had a core of Curry, Klay, Iggy, Barnes so that we'd have the luxury of having to make such a decision on Andrew.