Multiple NBA teams refusing to stay at Donald Trump's hotels while on road trips

[BBALLER4FR]

Racist is as racist does. We'll have to see how both situations play out.

True. Brand them and see if they live up to the label. I like it.

This would be a legitimate point if Phil and Trump had equal levels of evidence against them.

Oh, not Phil. LeBron. There's no reason to believe Phil is racist. But LeBron, he's falsely using race as a weapon and he knows better. What he did by not acknowledging the 2nd, valid definition of the word is destructive and he should be branded a racist for intentionally, maliciously using that card. But see, no one would care to see if LeBron has any incling of racism in his bones because he's loved, and it couldn't possibly be the case right? Yet now that he conveniently presented this nugget to the forum, you'd like to wait and see, i.e. monitor Phil to see if it pans out as true. It's amazing.

[Ralphie96]

I wonder how many NBA players voted?

Or actually did anything to try to make sure Trump didn't win BEFORE the election was over. Imagine if these teams and players actually worked together to put out a campaign against voting for Trump? I mean...my goodness...think of it. Anyone don't think that that sort of thing actually would have been much more impactful? If you think Lebron, Carmelo, Curry, Paul, Wade, etc. etc. actually came out and put some of their pocket money together on a "NBA Against Trump" campaign that it wouldn't have impacted the vote? I mean they've done studies that have shown that "the masses" are GREATLY impacted by the opinions of celebrities and athletes (almost to the point of being lemmings). Time to do something was BEFORE the election, not AFTER the election. They aren't going to impeach Trump because his hotels are not being fully occupied. The only thing this is going to help is the billionaires that own shares of hotels like the Ritz Carlton or the Omni. But hey, it's a whole lot easier to do what they are doing now than put the effort in when it really actually would have counted.

lebron alone shoulda been able to give clinton Ohio. he coulda just said vote hilary or i'm leaving the cavs...

[GONYK]

True. Brand them and see if they live up to the label. I like it.

This would be a legitimate point if Phil and Trump had equal levels of evidence against them.

Oh, not Phil. LeBron. There's no reason to believe Phil is racist. But LeBron, he's falsely using race as a weapon and he knows better. What he did by not acknowledging the 2nd, valid definition of the word is destructive and he should be branded a racist for intentionally, maliciously using that card. But see, no one would care to see if LeBron has any incling of racism in his bones because he's loved, and it couldn't possibly be the case right? Yet now that he conveniently presented this nugget to the forum, you'd like to wait and see, i.e. monitor Phil to see if it pans out as true. It's amazing.

So...you haven't been in the thread discussing this issue? Here's a preview on how I feel about it.

If we really want to break it down, Lebron and his crew are bringing a lot more racial bias into this conversation than Phil did.

They are assuming that, because he is white, he is using some historical definition that could maybe be interpreted as offensive if you were willing to apply it in an absolutely ridiculous way.

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[BBALLER4FR]

This would be a legitimate point if Phil and Trump had equal levels of evidence against them.

Oh, not Phil. LeBron. There's no reason to believe Phil is racist. But LeBron, he's falsely using race as a weapon and he knows better. What he did by not acknowledging the 2nd, valid definition of the word is destructive and he should be branded a racist for intentionally, maliciously using that card. But see, no one would care to see if LeBron has any incling of racism in his bones because he's loved, and it couldn't possibly be the case right? Yet now that he conveniently presented this nugget to the forum, you'd like to wait and see, i.e. monitor Phil to see if it pans out as true. It's amazing.

So...you haven't been in the thread discussing this issue? Here's a preview on how I feel about it.

If we really want to break it down, Lebron and his crew are bringing a lot more racial bias into this conversation than Phil did.

They are assuming that, because he is white, he is using some historical definition that could maybe be interpreted as offensive if you were willing to apply it in an absolutely ridiculous way.

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So are you saying LeBron is racist for intentionally falsely using race to hurt brand someone?

[KNIXFAN_83]

True. Brand them and see if they live up to the label. I like it.

This would be a legitimate point if Phil and Trump had equal levels of evidence against them.

Oh, not Phil. LeBron. There's no reason to believe Phil is racist. But LeBron, he's falsely using race as a weapon and he knows better. What he did by not acknowledging the 2nd, valid definition of the word is destructive and he should be branded a racist for intentionally, maliciously using that card. But see, no one would care to see if LeBron has any incling of racism in his bones because he's loved, and it couldn't possibly be the case right? Yet now that he conveniently presented this nugget to the forum, you'd like to wait and see, i.e. monitor Phil to see if it pans out as true. It's amazing.

The only time race has been used as a weapon was towards blacks in this country. Choose your words wisely.


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[GONYK]

Oh, not Phil. LeBron. There's no reason to believe Phil is racist. But LeBron, he's falsely using race as a weapon and he knows better. What he did by not acknowledging the 2nd, valid definition of the word is destructive and he should be branded a racist for intentionally, maliciously using that card. But see, no one would care to see if LeBron has any incling of racism in his bones because he's loved, and it couldn't possibly be the case right? Yet now that he conveniently presented this nugget to the forum, you'd like to wait and see, i.e. monitor Phil to see if it pans out as true. It's amazing.

So...you haven't been in the thread discussing this issue? Here's a preview on how I feel about it.

If we really want to break it down, Lebron and his crew are bringing a lot more racial bias into this conversation than Phil did.

They are assuming that, because he is white, he is using some historical definition that could maybe be interpreted as offensive if you were willing to apply it in an absolutely ridiculous way.

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1491489&start=40

So are you saying LeBron is racist for intentionally falsely using race to hurt brand someone?

I'm saying that by charging Phil with racism, he's showing more racial bias than Phil ever has.

I don't think either are racist.

For the record, I don't think Trump is a true racist either. I just think he is an ignorant person who doesn't mind hanging out with racists if it gets him closer to his goal. I'm not sure that is better though.

[Capn'O]

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[BBALLER4FR]

This would be a legitimate point if Phil and Trump had equal levels of evidence against them.

Oh, not Phil. LeBron. There's no reason to believe Phil is racist. But LeBron, he's falsely using race as a weapon and he knows better. What he did by not acknowledging the 2nd, valid definition of the word is destructive and he should be branded a racist for intentionally, maliciously using that card. But see, no one would care to see if LeBron has any incling of racism in his bones because he's loved, and it couldn't possibly be the case right? Yet now that he conveniently presented this nugget to the forum, you'd like to wait and see, i.e. monitor Phil to see if it pans out as true. It's amazing.

The only time race has been used as a weapon was towards blacks in this country. Choose your words wisely.


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Ok, I will wisely choose not to use your words. When LeBron tries to stoke a race issue then it's not the only time.

[BBALLER4FR]

So...you haven't been in the thread discussing this issue? Here's a preview on how I feel about it.



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So are you saying LeBron is racist for intentionally falsely using race to hurt brand someone?

I'm saying that by charging Phil with racism, he's showing more racial bias than Phil ever has.

I don't think either are racist.

For the record, I don't think Trump is a true racist either. I just think he is an ignorant person who doesn't mind hanging out with racists if it gets him closer to his goal. I'm not sure that is better though.

All very fair and respectable points. I can completely see how someone could come to that conclusion.

[Jeff Van Gully]

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not sure if serious

He is reading from someone else's work. Not a speech.

i'm aware. i was not sure the user who posted it was serious.

[Jeff Van Gully]

its their right not to spend someone who's political philosophy is one they disagree with. I'd be shocked if the vast majority of posters here didn't do the same thing in some form or fashion. Pretty much a non story. Would it be an issue say if Sterling had Hotels and the teams refused to stay there. No. People don't like spending their money to enrich folk they dislike.

...aaaaaand, thread.

[Jeff Van Gully]

I wonder how many NBA players voted?

Or actually did anything to try to make sure Trump didn't win BEFORE the election was over. Imagine if these teams and players actually worked together to put out a campaign against voting for Trump? I mean...my goodness...think of it. Anyone don't think that that sort of thing actually would have been much more impactful? If you think Lebron, Carmelo, Curry, Paul, Wade, etc. etc. actually came out and put some of their pocket money together on a "NBA Against Trump" campaign that it wouldn't have impacted the vote? I mean they've done studies that have shown that "the masses" are GREATLY impacted by the opinions of celebrities and athletes (almost to the point of being lemmings). Time to do something was BEFORE the election, not AFTER the election. They aren't going to impeach Trump because his hotels are not being fully occupied. The only thing this is going to help is the billionaires that own shares of hotels like the Ritz Carlton or the Omni. But hey, it's a whole lot easier to do what they are doing now than put the effort in when it really actually would have counted.

lebron alone shoulda been able to give clinton Ohio. he coulda just said vote hilary or i'm leaving the cavs...

they'd have burned his jersey again before the presser was over.

[Jeff Van Gully]

So...you haven't been in the thread discussing this issue? Here's a preview on how I feel about it.



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So are you saying LeBron is racist for intentionally falsely using race to hurt brand someone?

I'm saying that by charging Phil with racism, he's showing more racial bias than Phil ever has.

I don't think either are racist.

For the record, I don't think Trump is a true racist either. I just think he is an ignorant person who doesn't mind hanging out with racists if it gets him closer to his goal. I'm not sure that is better though.

it isn't. that is racism. you may not think donald trump has prejudices against people of color. but racism includes the use of power and leveraging of advantage on the basis of race. so, empowering himself through racists at the expense of oppressed peoples... yes. racist.

[bigtimeRC3]

So are you saying LeBron is racist for intentionally falsely using race to hurt brand someone?

I'm saying that by charging Phil with racism, he's showing more racial bias than Phil ever has.

I don't think either are racist.

For the record, I don't think Trump is a true racist either. I just think he is an ignorant person who doesn't mind hanging out with racists if it gets him closer to his goal. I'm not sure that is better though.

it isn't. that is racism. you may not think donald trump has prejudices against people of color. but racism includes the use of power and leveraging of advantage on the basis of race. so, empowering himself through racists at the expense of oppressed peoples... yes. racist.

Same thing could be said with Lebron and other athletes . They support black lives matter which is a radical group that doesn't help race relations at all. It is a proven fact that the group only cares about one race and nobody else. If that isn't racism , I don't know what is.

[GONYK]

So are you saying LeBron is racist for intentionally falsely using race to hurt brand someone?

I'm saying that by charging Phil with racism, he's showing more racial bias than Phil ever has.

I don't think either are racist.

For the record, I don't think Trump is a true racist either. I just think he is an ignorant person who doesn't mind hanging out with racists if it gets him closer to his goal. I'm not sure that is better though.

it isn't. that is racism. you may not think donald trump has prejudices against people of color. but racism includes the use of power and leveraging of advantage on the basis of race. so, empowering himself through racists at the expense of oppressed peoples... yes. racist.

His cabinet is potentially shaping up to support your POV

[GONYK]

I'm saying that by charging Phil with racism, he's showing more racial bias than Phil ever has.

I don't think either are racist.

For the record, I don't think Trump is a true racist either. I just think he is an ignorant person who doesn't mind hanging out with racists if it gets him closer to his goal. I'm not sure that is better though.

it isn't. that is racism. you may not think donald trump has prejudices against people of color. but racism includes the use of power and leveraging of advantage on the basis of race. so, empowering himself through racists at the expense of oppressed peoples... yes. racist.

Same thing could be said with Lebron and other athletes . They support black lives matter which is a radical group that doesn't help race relations at all. It is a proven fact that the group only cares about one race and nobody else. If that isn't racism , I don't know what is.

Advocating for one race doesn't make you racist. You have to have institutional power to be racist. You can interpret BLM as prejudiced, but the oppressed party doesn't have the power to oppress those in power based on race.

Demanding that police stop killing black people is against police brutality, not another race.

[Jeff Van Gully]

I'm saying that by charging Phil with racism, he's showing more racial bias than Phil ever has.

I don't think either are racist.

For the record, I don't think Trump is a true racist either. I just think he is an ignorant person who doesn't mind hanging out with racists if it gets him closer to his goal. I'm not sure that is better though.

it isn't. that is racism. you may not think donald trump has prejudices against people of color. but racism includes the use of power and leveraging of advantage on the basis of race. so, empowering himself through racists at the expense of oppressed peoples... yes. racist.

Same thing could be said with Lebron and other athletes . They support black lives matter which is a radical group that doesn't help race relations at all. It is a proven fact that the group only cares about one race and nobody else. If that isn't racism , I don't know what is.

proven fact? you must be confusing them with that group "only black lives matter," which doesn't exist. i'm not affiliated with the group, but i did not have to look very hard to find evidence of quite the opposite -- BLM efforts consisting of people collaborating across racial lines, with police and government officials, in peaceful and productive ways.

i invite you to look into more information about the concept of oppression and its role in the concept of racism.

i know you're baiting hard right now, so i will leave it there. peace and blessings to you.

[Jeff Van Gully]

it isn't. that is racism. you may not think donald trump has prejudices against people of color. but racism includes the use of power and leveraging of advantage on the basis of race. so, empowering himself through racists at the expense of oppressed peoples... yes. racist.

Same thing could be said with Lebron and other athletes . They support black lives matter which is a radical group that doesn't help race relations at all. It is a proven fact that the group only cares about one race and nobody else. If that isn't racism , I don't know what is.

Advocating for one race doesn't make you racist. You have to have institutional power to be racist. You can interpret BLM as prejudiced, but the oppressed party doesn't have the power to oppress those in power based on race.

Demanding that police stop killing black people is against police brutality, not another race.

police isn't a race? but, blue lives matter.

[Jeff Van Gully]

I'm saying that by charging Phil with racism, he's showing more racial bias than Phil ever has.

I don't think either are racist.

For the record, I don't think Trump is a true racist either. I just think he is an ignorant person who doesn't mind hanging out with racists if it gets him closer to his goal. I'm not sure that is better though.

it isn't. that is racism. you may not think donald trump has prejudices against people of color. but racism includes the use of power and leveraging of advantage on the basis of race. so, empowering himself through racists at the expense of oppressed peoples... yes. racist.

His cabinet is potentially shaping up to support your POV

sadly looking that way. very scary times.

[Latvia]

There seems to be a lot of racism talk in this thread. Can somebody tell me if this counts as racism? Because im not sure.

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