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Pillendreher wrote:https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/heres-what-will-decide-the-thunder-jazz-series/
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
spearsy23 wrote:Pillendreher wrote:https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/heres-what-will-decide-the-thunder-jazz-series/
Most interesting thing in the article is that Russ has generated more corner three opportunities than anyone else but Bron. If only we hit them at an acceptable rate.
Pillendreher wrote:spearsy23 wrote:Pillendreher wrote:https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/heres-what-will-decide-the-thunder-jazz-series/
Most interesting thing in the article is that Russ has generated more corner three opportunities than anyone else but Bron. If only we hit them at an acceptable rate.
Yeah, especially because it feels like we are beyond horrible at creating those shots. But maybe it's just our inability to hit them: 8th in attempts, 24th in shooting %.
Looking at the players individually, it's not like they have been ass though:
George: 20.3 % of the team's attempts; 44.0 3P%
Patterson: 12.0 % of the team's attempts; 39.2 3P%
Ferguson: 10.1 % of the team's attempts; 41.9 3P%
Abrines: 9.6 % of the team's attempts; 37.3 3P%
Grant: 9.4 % of the team's attempts; 25.9 3P%
Melo: 9.1 % of the team's attempts; 33.9 3P%
Brewer: 8.8 % of the team's attempts; 38.9 3P%
Felton: 6.8 % of the team's attempts; 47.6 3P%
Huestis: 6.8 % of the team's attempts; 26.2 3P%
Russ: 3.4 % of the team's attempts; 19.0 3P%
Dre: 3.1 % of the team's attempts; 31.6 3P%
George+Patterson+Ferguson+Abrines+Brewer+Felton have combined for 68 % of our corner 3s and have shot 41.6 % on them. If only the rest of the team wouldn't have been so trash at it.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
spearsy23 wrote:Pillendreher wrote:spearsy23 wrote:Most interesting thing in the article is that Russ has generated more corner three opportunities than anyone else but Bron. If only we hit them at an acceptable rate.
Yeah, especially because it feels like we are beyond horrible at creating those shots. But maybe it's just our inability to hit them: 8th in attempts, 24th in shooting %.
Looking at the players individually, it's not like they have been ass though:
George: 20.3 % of the team's attempts; 44.0 3P%
Patterson: 12.0 % of the team's attempts; 39.2 3P%
Ferguson: 10.1 % of the team's attempts; 41.9 3P%
Abrines: 9.6 % of the team's attempts; 37.3 3P%
Grant: 9.4 % of the team's attempts; 25.9 3P%
Melo: 9.1 % of the team's attempts; 33.9 3P%
Brewer: 8.8 % of the team's attempts; 38.9 3P%
Felton: 6.8 % of the team's attempts; 47.6 3P%
Huestis: 6.8 % of the team's attempts; 26.2 3P%
Russ: 3.4 % of the team's attempts; 19.0 3P%
Dre: 3.1 % of the team's attempts; 31.6 3P%
George+Patterson+Ferguson+Abrines+Brewer+Felton have combined for 68 % of our corner 3s and have shot 41.6 % on them. If only the rest of the team wouldn't have been so trash at it.
What's average on corner threes though?
hardenASG13 wrote:Just looking at what they've done since January, the jazz are a scary first round matchup. They sound like a team that maxed out their talent, and won with effort, consistent defense and cohesion, pretty much the opposite of OKC. If that's the case, im going OKC in 5. I haven't really seen Utah at all though. Anyone watched a decent amount of jazz games? What have they been doing?
AGE1207 wrote:hardenASG13 wrote:Just looking at what they've done since January, the jazz are a scary first round matchup. They sound like a team that maxed out their talent, and won with effort, consistent defense and cohesion, pretty much the opposite of OKC. If that's the case, im going OKC in 5. I haven't really seen Utah at all though. Anyone watched a decent amount of jazz games? What have they been doing?
The best way to describe the Jazz is a "Spurs light"'. They run the same plays and have the same approach to a game. Rubio however is not as good as Parker (used to be), Ingles just isn't Ginobili, Mitchell can't be LaM just yet, etc...and Snyder isn't Pop but he is getting there.
On paper, the Jazz simpy haven't got the talent to match OKC but then again, on paper we probably should not be the 5th seed in the West either.
It should be Okc in 4 or 5 but the longer the series take, the more the Jazz will like their chances.
Pillendreher wrote:spearsy23 wrote:Pillendreher wrote:https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/heres-what-will-decide-the-thunder-jazz-series/
Most interesting thing in the article is that Russ has generated more corner three opportunities than anyone else but Bron. If only we hit them at an acceptable rate.
Yeah, especially because it feels like we are beyond horrible at creating those shots. But maybe it's just our inability to hit them: 8th in attempts, 24th in shooting %.
Looking at the players individually, it's not like they have been ass though:
George: 20.3 % of the team's attempts; 44.0 3P%
Patterson: 12.0 % of the team's attempts; 39.2 3P%
Ferguson: 10.1 % of the team's attempts; 41.9 3P%
Abrines: 9.6 % of the team's attempts; 37.3 3P%
Grant: 9.4 % of the team's attempts; 25.9 3P%
Melo: 9.1 % of the team's attempts; 33.9 3P%
Brewer: 8.8 % of the team's attempts; 38.9 3P%
Felton: 6.8 % of the team's attempts; 47.6 3P%
Huestis: 6.8 % of the team's attempts; 26.2 3P%
Russ: 3.4 % of the team's attempts; 19.0 3P%
Dre: 3.1 % of the team's attempts; 31.6 3P%
George+Patterson+Ferguson+Abrines+Brewer+Felton have combined for 68 % of our corner 3s and have shot 41.6 % on them. If only the rest of the team wouldn't have been so trash at it.
Atomic Punk wrote:Pillendreher wrote:spearsy23 wrote:Most interesting thing in the article is that Russ has generated more corner three opportunities than anyone else but Bron. If only we hit them at an acceptable rate.
Yeah, especially because it feels like we are beyond horrible at creating those shots. But maybe it's just our inability to hit them: 8th in attempts, 24th in shooting %.
Looking at the players individually, it's not like they have been ass though:
George: 20.3 % of the team's attempts; 44.0 3P%
Patterson: 12.0 % of the team's attempts; 39.2 3P%
Ferguson: 10.1 % of the team's attempts; 41.9 3P%
Abrines: 9.6 % of the team's attempts; 37.3 3P%
Grant: 9.4 % of the team's attempts; 25.9 3P%
Melo: 9.1 % of the team's attempts; 33.9 3P%
Brewer: 8.8 % of the team's attempts; 38.9 3P%
Felton: 6.8 % of the team's attempts; 47.6 3P%
Huestis: 6.8 % of the team's attempts; 26.2 3P%
Russ: 3.4 % of the team's attempts; 19.0 3P%
Dre: 3.1 % of the team's attempts; 31.6 3P%
George+Patterson+Ferguson+Abrines+Brewer+Felton have combined for 68 % of our corner 3s and have shot 41.6 % on them. If only the rest of the team wouldn't have been so trash at it.
Am I reading that right, Brewer has taken almost 9% of the teams corner threes for the SEASON? And Patterson only 12%? I know Brewer started off pretty hot but has since cooled, not to mention he has barely been with the team for six weeks. Patterson has got to get more looks and more shots up from distance in this series in my opinion.
Pillendreher wrote:Atomic Punk wrote:Pillendreher wrote:
Yeah, especially because it feels like we are beyond horrible at creating those shots. But maybe it's just our inability to hit them: 8th in attempts, 24th in shooting %.
Looking at the players individually, it's not like they have been ass though:
George: 20.3 % of the team's attempts; 44.0 3P%
Patterson: 12.0 % of the team's attempts; 39.2 3P%
Ferguson: 10.1 % of the team's attempts; 41.9 3P%
Abrines: 9.6 % of the team's attempts; 37.3 3P%
Grant: 9.4 % of the team's attempts; 25.9 3P%
Melo: 9.1 % of the team's attempts; 33.9 3P%
Brewer: 8.8 % of the team's attempts; 38.9 3P%
Felton: 6.8 % of the team's attempts; 47.6 3P%
Huestis: 6.8 % of the team's attempts; 26.2 3P%
Russ: 3.4 % of the team's attempts; 19.0 3P%
Dre: 3.1 % of the team's attempts; 31.6 3P%
George+Patterson+Ferguson+Abrines+Brewer+Felton have combined for 68 % of our corner 3s and have shot 41.6 % on them. If only the rest of the team wouldn't have been so trash at it.
Am I reading that right, Brewer has taken almost 9% of the teams corner threes for the SEASON? And Patterson only 12%? I know Brewer started off pretty hot but has since cooled, not to mention he has barely been with the team for six weeks. Patterson has got to get more looks and more shots up from distance in this series in my opinion.
Yes. Patterson has shot 74 corner 3s in 82 games, Brewer has shot 56 corner 3s in 18 games. That's one of those things where a team wide delusion gets the better of them: For whatever reason, they think that a 31.0 % career corner 3 shooter should be taking four 3s per game, while their better shooters sometimes go without getting a good shot throughout a whole game.
But of course that is also dependent on playing time: Patterson is playing 16 minutes a game with a 10.8 USG% while Brewer is playing 29 minutes a game with a 14.4 USG%.
bisme37 wrote:If there were magnets in basketballs so strong they changed the path of the ball as it flew through the air, wouldn't the ball then stick magnetically to the rim when it got there?
Knrstz wrote:Pillendreher wrote:Atomic Punk wrote:
Am I reading that right, Brewer has taken almost 9% of the teams corner threes for the SEASON? And Patterson only 12%? I know Brewer started off pretty hot but has since cooled, not to mention he has barely been with the team for six weeks. Patterson has got to get more looks and more shots up from distance in this series in my opinion.
Yes. Patterson has shot 74 corner 3s in 82 games, Brewer has shot 56 corner 3s in 18 games. That's one of those things where a team wide delusion gets the better of them: For whatever reason, they think that a 31.0 % career corner 3 shooter should be taking four 3s per game, while their better shooters sometimes go without getting a good shot throughout a whole game.
But of course that is also dependent on playing time: Patterson is playing 16 minutes a game with a 10.8 USG% while Brewer is playing 29 minutes a game with a 14.4 USG%.
And we wonder why some players struggle when they come here and others flourish when they leave.
Atomic Punk wrote:Knrstz wrote:Pillendreher wrote:
Yes. Patterson has shot 74 corner 3s in 82 games, Brewer has shot 56 corner 3s in 18 games. That's one of those things where a team wide delusion gets the better of them: For whatever reason, they think that a 31.0 % career corner 3 shooter should be taking four 3s per game, while their better shooters sometimes go without getting a good shot throughout a whole game.
But of course that is also dependent on playing time: Patterson is playing 16 minutes a game with a 10.8 USG% while Brewer is playing 29 minutes a game with a 14.4 USG%.
And we wonder why some players struggle when they come here and others flourish when they leave.
Brewer obviously has the green light and I would assume the same goes for Patterson. The biggest difference I see is that Brewer has no problem firing away while Patterson has been extremely passive and turns down shots regularly.
Pillendreher wrote:The Thunder are 5-0 in their first game of the Playoffs in the when they host the 1st round. Let's continue that streak.
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